Been out of the pc world for years need help on new pc

[Candymancan21]

Ok I used to be big into overclocking, water cooling, 3dmark yada yada for years an years but I stopped maybe a year after buying the system in my signature.. That was god.. probably 4-5 years ago back in 2010 I think lol I don't remember... I kinda got more into my Jeep, and fish tanks as a hobby..

This PC has been great for most of the video games I play and what I do daily.. I don't play many high end video games like crisis 3 and stuff like that.. I used too but I lost interest in it and I lost interest in needing max fps and max details.. you know how you upgrade just to get that extra 10fps.. As long as I get above 50fps im golden... I get by playing league of legends and world of tanks and this pc plays those games fine maxed out, even skyrim I was able to play on high details just fine..

But its getting old.. I want something faster... Doesnt have to be very top of the line but I want something high end.. I remember I used to be good at recommending people a new pc back in the day but right now.. I am a complete newbie to what is out.. I was on newegg browsing video cards and the cooling on these cards is very extreme... 3 fans ? And now watercooling.. and the cpu's and memory its all very confusing im really outdated.. lol I remember when watercooling was only reserved for special people who were big overclockers. Heck if I even took a picture of what my bios is set at in case it gets reset because I forgot how I overclocked my pc to what it is lol

Anyway...

Yea preferably try not to go over a $800 budget.. I built the pc you see here for $800 and it lasted me 4-5 years and at the time it was pretty high end.. But plz note im not looking for something mid range .. I would like something that's as I said more mid-high end and something that will last me and if I ever get back into overclocking that can overclock decently. AMD or Intel, Nvidia or AMD radeons.. I don't care about the brands.. I used to be pretty partial to AMD though because they seem to be the best bang for buck.. and I imagine they probably still are

 

[Flapdrol1337]

Will you be reusing parts?

If you want to game you'll probably want an i5-4690K, z97 board and a decent gpu (gtx 970 or something), 8GB memory, blow the rest on a big ssd.

If you don't really game but want to brag you could get a 5820K, board, 8GB ram (don't really need quadchannel) and maybe small ssd. Reuse even the gpu

Of course this means reusing, case, psu, cooling, harddrive (as secondary disk).

 

[Burpo]

Times have changed and parts have gone up accordingly. It's going to be hard to build "high end" for $800, especially starting from scratch.

 

[Candymancan21]

Well I mean how have times changed exactly ? 9700 pro's back then when they were new were $500, a 8800GTX Nvidia card was $4-500, prices were really high back then... The 4980 I believe I spent like $300 on it or something..

CPU's from what im looking at are still $100-200 not too expensive. Im not looking for an SLI $1,000 video card. Obviously I would want 8gb of ram, and I'll probably need a new power supply im assuming ? Or would what I have be enough ? I'll probably need adapters if I reuse the power supply because it has 2x 6 pin power plugs not the 8 pin I see some of these video cards are using.

I am pretty innovative I can probably re-use my water block by making my own bracket for it.. I did the same with my e-8400.. The maze 3 block im using on it was originally for Athlon 1800+'s and Pentium 4's if you guys have been into pc's that long ago.. I made my own brackets and mounting system and ppl said it couldn't be done and look at my overclocks on the e-8400.. Obviously I'll be reusing the case I don't need a new one.. I dunno bout re-using the 4890 lol how is it compared to whats out now lol I mean 4 years old.. I imagine its probably on the low end

Basically I need ram,cpu,mobo, video card, and probably power supply and I suppose I can reuse my hdd for now

 

[Burpo]

"But plz note im not looking for something mid range .. I would like something that's as I said more mid-high end and something that will last"

See this thread & that's not "high end"..
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2192841

But if you're going to re-use parts & not build from scratch, then yes you can put together something adequate..

 

[FiLeZz]

Best bang for the buck would be buy someone's used parts. So many people buying 980gtx cards and people upgrading to the x99 platform. This is a great time to score on high end parts on the down low.

example http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2398944

I would shoot for at least a 7970 video card or 770gtx
CPU at least a 3770 for 4770 or even jump on the 2011 socket as lots are showing up.
With your budget this should be easy to score a nice rig. Good luck.

I have always sold my parts here. I have also bought parts here. Just make sure people have heatware..

 

[Flapdrol1337]

The 980 and 970 reference cards use 2 6 pins, reusing psu shouldn't be a problem I think.

i5 4690K could be considered "midrange" but for games it performs very close to the top. With 8GB ram, a z97 board and a gtx970 you're already at your set budget.

ssd would be nice if you can stretch the buget a little, I run a 120GB one for just the os and a few games, booting fast is nice if you're overclocking and rebooting a lot

 

[davie jambo]

The 980 and 970 reference cards use 2 6 pins, reusing psu shouldn't be a problem I think.

i5 4690K could be considered "midrange" but for games it performs very close to the top. With 8GB ram, a z97 board and a gtx970 you're already at your set budget.

ssd would be nice if you can stretch the buget a little, I run a 120GB one for just the os and a few games, booting fast is nice if you're overclocking and rebooting a lot

SSD as the system drive is pretty much required now. Can you imagine your PC without one now ?

 

[Denithor]

i5-4690K $240
Z97 motherboard around $100
8GB DDR3-1600 1.5V around $75
GTX 970 $330
Crucial M500 120GB SSD $75

Total is $820

To me, an SSD is not optional these days. Everything loads faster, nothing bogs it down (even running antivirus scans in the background). This will give you a solid upper middle range system for just a hair over your stated budget. If you can find a deal on the motherboard, or a combo deal with the CPU you could probably hit the $800 mark.

 

[dmoney1980]

OP - do you have a micro center near you? If so, that's the best place to pick up a cpu+ motherboard combo

 

[Yuriman]

i5-4690K $240
Z97 motherboard around $100
8GB DDR3-1600 1.5V around $75
GTX 970 $330
Crucial M500 120GB SSD $75

Total is $820

To me, an SSD is not optional these days. Everything loads faster, nothing bogs it down (even running antivirus scans in the background). This will give you a solid upper middle range system for just a hair over your stated budget. If you can find a deal on the motherboard, or a combo deal with the CPU you could probably hit the $800 mark.

This is about what I'd recommend. The 970 sounds like it's overkill for your needs, but you seem to hold onto PCs for a while and it should serve you well for a very long time. There are slots open for dropping in another 8GB of RAM when everyone begins to adopt DDR4 and prices drop, and the above system should run on as little as a nice 400-450w PSU, so your Antec should be plenty.

 

[Madpacket]

If you don't care that much about overclocking pick up a 4590(non K) and save around 40 bucks. On top of this you can get away with a simple mATX or ATX H81 board and save another 40-50 bucks over a Z series. This extra 80 to 90 bucks can go towards a better video card or larger SSD or a new gold rated power supply. No need for exotic cooling if you go with a 4590.

 

[Phynaz]

Wrong forum, this needs to be in General Hardware.

 

[Candymancan21]

well from what I gather looking at the psu ect.. I don't need a new case, I don't need a dvd burner I have all that, don't need to upgrade my cooling i'll just reuse my waterblocks by making a new bracket for them.. Doesn't seem I need a new power supply either.. Amperage im at a combined 60A for 12v.. I could simply get adapters if I need them im sure the motherboards 4 pin and 6 pin connectors have changed slightly... I see SSD's are now finally affordable lol they were ridiculous last I played with this stuff..

thanks for the help guys... Question why hasn't anyon recommended AMD cpu's I imagine they are cheaper and the motherboards are cheaper as well, same with the video cards... Im sure AMD still lacks in performance like they used too back when I got my E8400.. but they cant be that bad can they , or are they like way behind now ?

 

[Burpo]

"I want something faster... Doesn't have to be very top of the line but I want something high end.."

Best single thread performance=Intel

 

[escrow4]

I'd actually get an i7 4790 or equivalent minimum for a gaming build now, especially if you want a 5yr lifespan. Then again, a 5820K would likely be a better all-rounder 5yrs from now, except the CPU alone is half your budget and DDR4 latencies are horrible.

Compromises, an i5 4690 non K, an H97 board, 16GB RAM, and a 970 or 980.

 

[Yuriman]

well from what I gather looking at the psu ect.. I don't need a new case, I don't need a dvd burner I have all that, don't need to upgrade my cooling i'll just reuse my waterblocks by making a new bracket for them.. Doesn't seem I need a new power supply either.. Amperage im at a combined 60A for 12v.. I could simply get adapters if I need them im sure the motherboards 4 pin and 6 pin connectors have changed slightly... I see SSD's are now finally affordable lol they were ridiculous last I played with this stuff..

thanks for the help guys... Question why hasn't anyon recommended AMD cpu's I imagine they are cheaper and the motherboards are cheaper as well, same with the video cards... Im sure AMD still lacks in performance like they used too back when I got my E8400.. but they cant be that bad can they , or are they like way behind now ?

AMD's single threaded performance is behind, so you need their 6 and 8 core processors to keep up with Intel's quads. They're priced accordingly, but are only available on the extremely old AM3 socket (and haven't had a real refresh in over 2 years). Their newer FM2 socket only has dual module (4 thread "quads") which are about equivalent to an i3.

On top of this, they draw about twice the power to get the same work done. This doesn't matter to everyone, but I don't see the value in *most* AMD chips.

 

[Candymancan21]

That's a shame.. I used to be a big AMD fan... Then the C2DUO came out and I couldn't justify getting an AMD cpu... seems nothing has changed in 4 years