Been out of the loop....want a COOL, QUIET, pc.

[Markfw]

The list you had, but substitute a Sonata (380 TP) and get the thermaltake xp90 and a panaflo for it.

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: jswjimmy

Originally posted by: Fisher999
IMPROVED MEMORY CONTROLLER

the memory controler is on die with the 64's how could a chipset improve that?

but still the nf4 is better than the nf3

Thanks for correcting me Js. I was thinking of the "Venice" core A64 when I said that. The "Venice" core A64 has an improved memory controller when compated to the "Winchester" and "Newcastle" core A64s.

😀

 

[OzzieGT]

Poor choice of motherboard IMO. I am in the same position as you. Any reaoson you are choosing the Gigabyte over the CHAINTECH VNF4/Ultra? The chaintech is an NF4 Ultra board so it will be faster and costs about $15 less (for a brand new board as opposed to a refurbished one).

EDIT: I noticed you are trying to stick to your old video. I don't know if this is a good idea because your video won't match up to your CPU and later you might have a hard time finding a decent AGP vid card.

 

[justlnluck]

For the HSF, I recommend the Zalman 7700 AlCu. You can get it cheap on Amazon with free shipping. I have it in my system and it is completely inaudible.

For the DVD burner, look at the BenQ 1620. It is EXTREMELY quiet and smooth running. It also is compatible with just about all the media out there.

As for motherboards, I've found that VIA and Nvidia chipsets tend to run exceptionally hot. I would look at the SiS and ULi offerings as they run much cooler and don't require fans that have the potential to produce annoying buzzing sounds.

PSUs, look at the Seasonic S-12's. The S-12 500 is supposed to be one of the quietest. I own a Seasonic Tornado w/ 120mm fan, which is inaudible, but unfortunately the Tornado line has been discontinued.

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: justlnluck
...I would look at the SiS and ULi offerings...

ULi hmmm never heard of them !

Do you mean ALi ??? 😎

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: jswjimmy

Originally posted by: Fisher999
IMPROVED MEMORY CONTROLLER

the memory controler is on die with the 64's how could a chipset improve that?

Jswjimmy; I've already thanked you for corrected my error in suggesting the memory controller is a part of the nf4 chip when it is integrated into the A64.

HOWEVER, there IS a memory "issue" concerning the nf3 chips that was corrected in the nf4 chips. This "issue" concerns the problems using certain memory configurations and DIMM placements in the four DIMM slots on nf mobos.

For nf3 and earlier mobos if one were to populate DIMM slots 1 and 3 with TWO DOUBLE-SIDED PC3200 dimms or ALL FOUR DIMM slots with FOUR DOUBLE-SIDED PC-3200 dimms then the nfx chip would LOWER the memory bus from 400MHz effective to 333MHz effective and default from 1T to 2T.

The nf4 ALMOST fully corrects this issue. If the two same scenarios described above are implemented on an nf4 board, the PC3200 memory will run at the proper effective 400MHz speed but will default from 1T to 2T (assuming your memory can even run at a 1T setting).

It was "this issue" that caused me to mention in the earlier post that the nf4 has an improved "memory controller".

Greg

 

[The Pentium Guy]

I don't think it's the board. The new Venice addresses the issue with the memory controller. Remember, Athlon64's have integrated memory controllers.

 

[hurtstotalktoyou]

Originally posted by: joshw10
I havent been into the PC hardware for a number of years...at that time, it was AMD processors that ran hot and Intel that ran cool. I have an Athlon XP 1800+, and my PC is ridiculously hot. I'd like to upgrade to something that will require minimal cooling, and therefore be quiet and not act as a heater in my room. I'm really not interested in anything other than stock cooling.

I'd like to spend about $150 for a CPU in a new PC.

Any suggestions?

If your system is heating the air in your room, that's definitely not normal. Also, the CPU fan should not make much of any noise. The primary noisemakers in a system are the PSU fan and hard disk--at least, that's how my last seven or eight systems have been. If your CPU fan is causing you trouble, you could get a new one for about $10.

If you're going to get a new CPU and motherboard, it won't matter how hot or cold they run. Unless something is seriously wrong with your system, you won't notice any heat unless you put your hand to an air vent or open the case. And the CPU fans shouldn't make much of any noise, regardless of what platform you choose.

 

[vrbaba]

Originally posted by: jswjimmy
xp1800... hot... lol

mine at stock settings runs at about 30C, unless its a palomino i would check you cooling.

i think i was getting 43C load with stock hsf and crappy cooling.

unless u really want to buy/upgrade your computer, getting good quality cooling will serve you the cheapest, which you need to buy anyways with your upgraded parts.

 

[Techno Pride]

hmmm...i doubt a Zalman 7700 or an XP90+Panaflo is more quiet than a passive XP120.

http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=22665

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
I don't think it's the board. The new Venice addresses the issue with the memory controller. Remember, Athlon64's have integrated memory controllers.

Yes, thanks Pentium, I'm having a bad week, it IS the "Venice" Core A64 which "fixes" the memory issure I described above.

You and me are EVEN now.

I had to enlighten YOU over here at this AT thread when you said, in reference to an Asus A8N (NF4) series board "...Heh. Yikes! Why did ASUS combine the NB and the SB into one :S ..." and I had to explain to you that the NF4 has ALWAYS been an integrated solution (no seperate NB and SB) since the original nf chip. I also provided you many links at that thread so you could be become more educated on things NON-Pentium. You have done you're homework, good for you !!! 😉