been attempting this problem for last hour, please tell me there's a five min way to find answer!!!

Wheatmaster

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ok heres the problem: x/(16x^4 - 1)
i have to decompose that so there are two parts (or at least i think two, maybe more parts?) like this:
A B C D
--- +-- + -- + --
4x x x^2 x


or something like that????!!! ughh i hate precalc!
 

GtPrOjEcTX

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(16x^4 - 1) breaks into (4x^2-1)(4x^2+1) which breaks into (2x-1)(2x+1)(4x^2+1)

so = x/[(2x-1)(2x+1)(4x^2+1)]

not sure what you want from that...
 

Wheatmaster

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Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
(16x^4 - 1) breaks into (4x^2-1)(4x^2+1) which breaks into (2x-1)(2x+1)(4x^2+1)

so = x/[(2x-1)(2x+1)(4x^2+1)]

not sure what you want from that...


haha i wish it were that easy. i meant like it breaks into two parts, in just decomposing the denimator.

(A/B) + (C/D) = (x/16x^4 -1)
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: Mak0602
ok heres the problem: x/(16x^4 - 1)
i have to decompose that so there are two parts (or at least i think two, maybe more parts?) like this:
A B C D
--- +-- + -- + --
4x x x^2 x


or something like that????!!! ughh i hate precalc!

Do they tell you what they want you to decompose it into? It's fairly clear that the fractions you have above aren't the ones the teachers want since the 1st, 2nd and 4th fraction are equivalent.
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
(16x^4 - 1) breaks into (4x^2-1)(4x^2+1) which breaks into (2x-1)(2x+1)(4x^2+1)

so = x/[(2x-1)(2x+1)(4x^2+1)]

not sure what you want from that...

It IS possible to break it down into:

A/(2x-1) + B/(2x+1) + (Cx+D)/(4x^2+1)

Is that what they wanted?
 

Wheatmaster

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Originally posted by: TuxDave
Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
(16x^4 - 1) breaks into (4x^2-1)(4x^2+1) which breaks into (2x-1)(2x+1)(4x^2+1)

so = x/[(2x-1)(2x+1)(4x^2+1)]

not sure what you want from that...

It IS possible to break it down into:

A/(2x-1) + B/(2x+1) + (Cx+D)/(4x^2+1)

Is that what they wanted?

THAT'S exactly what i want! I just don't know how to get A, B,C, and D for this particular problem
 

Cruisin1

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how old are you dude? partial fraction decomposition is very easy. It's just a matter of algebra. Read you fricken book and you should figure this out in ten minutes.
 

I'm not sure I understand your question. Can you tell us in what context you're doing this problem? I remember in calculus/diff. eq. we had partial fractions.

If you are doing this in order to integrate parts with partial fractions, then try this:

(16x^4) - 1 = (2x+1) (2x-1) ((4x^2) + 1)


x/((16x^4)- 1) = [A/(2x+1)] + [B/(2x-1)] + [(Cx+D)/((4x^2)+ 1)]

=> x = A(2x-1)[(4x^2)+ 1] + B(2x+1)[(4x^2)+ 1] + (Cx+D)(2x+1)(2x-1)

You can choose to use the linear system to find A, B, C and D; or you can choose any x that cancels out the other equations.

I will use the faster method:

If we let x = 1/2, then 1/2 = 0 + B(2*2) + 0 => 1/2 = 4B => B = 1/8
If we let x = -1/2, then -1/2 = A(-2*2) + 0 + 0 => -1/2 = -4A => A = 1/8

Let x = 0, then 0 = A(-1) + B(1) + (0+D)(-1) = -A + B -D = (-1/8) + (1/8) - D
=> -D = 0 => D = 0

We know the values of A, B and D. Take each value and replace, and choose any x that doesn't cancel out C to find C.

If you take x = 1, then 1 = 5A + B(3*5) + (C+D)*3 = (5/8) + (15/8) + 3C

=> 3C = 1 - (20/8) = -12/8 => C = -1/2

As you can see, you can quickly know what A, B and D are, but C requires more work. It could look messy.

The second method is much neater. You expand the equation, then use the a matrix to solve it (The second method):

x = (8Ax^3 + 2Ax - 4Ax^2 - A) + (8Bx^3 + 2Bx + 4Bx^2 + B) + (4Cx^3 - Cx + 4Dx^2 - D)
= (8A + 8B + 4C) x^3 + (-4A + 4B + 4D) x^2 + (2A + 2B - C)x + (-A + B -D)

So,

8A + 8B + 4C = 0
-4 A + 4B + 4D = 0
2A + 2B - C = 1
-A + B - D = 0

You can make a matrix and find the solution. But since I have already gotten the values of A and B, I can just plug them in and find C and D (supposing I had difficulty with the two).

4C = -8A - 8B = -1 -1 = -2 => C = -1/2
D = -A + B = -1 + 1 => D = 0

Hence, A = 1/8; B= 1/8; C= -1/2; D = 0

Hope that helps! I may have made an error somewhere, so check!