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boomdart

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If you're going to become a mechanic, I'd do something more than just fix cars... There are mechanics around every corner, try doing something more with your shop.
 

WaterTorture

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Thanks for all the great info guys. Its been a help.


Does anyone have any information about obtaining cheap cars though? When I was in high school I had a friend whose Dad was always getting stuff w/ salvage titles. Just project cars and experiments he'd would try out (like putting a V8 in a Chevette). I assume he got them from junk yards unless there are other avenues to obtain salvage titles. His Dad was a computer programmer so I know he didnt get them from work or anything.
 

Nocturnal

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Where are you located? I'd suggest checking out Universal Technological Institute in Arizona or they also have a campus in CA.
 
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Originally posted by: WaterTorture
Thanks for all the great info guys. Its been a help.


Does anyone have any information about obtaining cheap cars though? When I was in high school I had a friend whose Dad was always getting stuff w/ salvage titles. Just project cars and experiments he'd would try out (like putting a V8 in a Chevette). I assume he got them from junk yards unless there are other avenues to obtain salvage titles. His Dad was a computer programmer so I know he didnt get them from work or anything.


ASE=Ask Someone Else.

Contact your insurance agent(car) and ask if they know of an insurance lot? A lot of times cars that are totaled are sent to an insurance lot and people buy from there, I have seen Brand spanking new Mercedes SLK AMG with kompressor engines gor for $20K, sure that's a lot for what you want to do, but it gives you an idea of how cheap you can get stuff that way. I almost picked up a 86 firebird for $700, it was in good shape body wise, but the engine was blown and the owner abandoned it.

Also check police auctions. Ebay has a section for parts cars. get you a chasis from there, or try auto trader. if you just want to learn, find the cheapest thing you can find, since it doesn't matter what it is as long as it is not to old as parts will be harder to find.
 

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
I was an ASE Master Mechanic for 10+ years in my previous career. My best advice... DON'T DO IT!

Don't get me wrong, fixing cars isn't bad at all... And the knowledge of being able to diagnose/repair cars is priceless. But dealing with the pay structure, co-workers, and customers made me absolutely miserable. Not to mention the sleazy sales people (in both car sales and repair sales) and the fact that too many good people get ripped off.

There are just so many better ways to earn a living in this world.



NOTE: I know there are quite a few professional mechanics on this board. If I offend you guys, I sincerely apologize, as I do have the utmost respect for you guys (presuming you aren't ripping everyone off). But I truly wish someone had said the above to me before I got started.

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What he said and now my story and advice...


I am/WAS a mechanic. I worked on cars to pay for college. I got started because I am the kinda person that juts takes shitt apart to see how it works then put it back together. I also wanted to hot rod out my car.

BUT hot rodding a car AND general mechanic work as a career is day and night. If you want to ruin a great hobby, do it as a career. Also working for others means you have to accept THEIR ethics. I worked for myself ( Marlins Auto ) for the last 4+ years and that was good I could work on what I want and use my GOOD ethics when doing it. IMO owning your own shop is the only way, BUT you need a LOT of exp. to go on your own, and you need business exp. also. I know some great mechanics that could blow most mechanics away, but they had shitt for brains when it came to the business side and went under.

Best advice, work on cars while going to college and get a general business degree. If after 4+ years of working on cars that is still your choice well now you got the business degree to back up the other side of it. If not well then take your degree and do something else.

I like restoring or hot rodding cars, I am not going to ruin that by being a career mechanic.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
If you want to ruin a great hobby, do it as a career.
That could very well be the best advice I've ever read on this msg board!

Well done, Marlin. :)
 

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Yep, what Marlin1975 said.
It's one thing to take your time at something you enjoy, and another to HAVE to hurry up b/c time is everything. And dealing with (wack) people--OMG!
 

gotsmack

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Best advice, work on cars while going to college and get a general business degree. If after 4+ years of working on cars that is still your choice well now you got the business degree to back up the other side of it. If not well then take your degree and do something else.

I like restoring or hot rodding cars, I am not going to ruin that by being a career mechanic.

Don't do that. I did that as an undergrad and I didn't learn anything useful.

I have figured out that there are only really 3 employable business majors.

1. Accounting
2. Supply chain/ operations management
3. finance/economics
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: gotsmack
Don't do that. I did that as an undergrad and I didn't learn anything useful.

I have figured out that there are only really 3 employable business majors.

1. Accounting
2. Supply chain/ operations management
3. finance/economics
You're pretty well right on with that list, but what I have never been able to figure out is how the #2 item on that list got there. Any Accounting/Finance/Econ major should have the math skills and problem-solving skills to move into the Operations Management area. The courses I took in Operations Management were so incredibly easy, but they were a lot of fun.

ZV
 

gotsmack

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supply chain and operations managemnt is the bastard child of economics and industrial engeneering.

accounting and finance guys can NOT do supply chain stuff.

logistics (a major part of supply chain) is beyoned their grasp.

economics is very diverse. some schools don't offer business undergrad degrees, only econ and then if you want to do a business degree you do an MBA.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: CTrain
One Question ? WHY ?
I don't think I have ever heard of a rich mechanic.
There is more to life than money.
That couldn't be more true... Which is why I don't have the least bit of a problem trying to talk someone out of being an auto mechanic. :)
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: CTrain
One Question ? WHY ?
I don't think I have ever heard of a rich mechanic.
There is more to life than money.

Thats true but its a very unappreciated profession.
As I was saying before. Its hard work, you're filthy at the end of the day and most everyone thinks mechanics are scums.
 

CTrain

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Theres always money to be made in every profession, but being rich as a mechanic is far and few.

Myself, being a manager at a Mcdonalds, I make pretty decent money because I'm a store manager but would I ever recommend it to others ??? HELL NO.
The owner of our franchise started the same way. Now, he has 19 stores and is a millionaire but thats far and few.
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
If you want to ruin a great hobby, do it as a career.
That could very well be the best advice I've ever read on this msg board!

Well done, Marlin. :)

True... that's what I did. I bought a 1977 Cultass Supreme with the intent to build a new engine for it and make it a nice cruiser. Went to school at the University of Northwestern Ohio to be an automotive technician... by the time I finished schooling (18 months) I didn't even want to change my own oil.
 

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I agree with everyone who said specialization is the key to making money. My father owns a shop and my brother and myself work there with him. We specialize in electrical and driveability problems. Most of our work comes from other shops who can't fix the problems. We are not typically dirty when the day is over, our shop is nice and comfortable to work in, and we have a high speed connection internet connection:D Just like doctors, the specialists charge more and bring home more money. One of the biggest benefits is that I never have to worry about unexpected car repair bills. Once in a while I Will pick up a car out of the classifieds that needs work- fix it and sell it for extra money. If you want to give it a try, I say go for it. The skills you gain will be valuable to you for the rest of your life, even if you decide on a different career.
 

1. Tools - What range of sizes of sockets/wrenches should I have? Should I invest in air tools? What types of saftey equipment?

A decent mechanic has about $60,000 worth of tools

2. Where can I get really cheap cars to work fix up? I'm kinda intimidated by junk yards and stuff because I dont know how they work. So, any info will be great here

Local newspaper

3. Books or training courses? whats the best way to approach having some formal learning? ( Or is anything even nice to have?) I do know working towards your ASE certifications are important

Get a job at a dealership, they will send you to school and pay for your A.S.E. training and tests.

4. Anything else you think I should know?

You better get a business degree, it ain't easy owning/running a repair shop and expect to fork out some serious cash to get started with the shop.
 

CTrain

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I don't get rationalization of "well, once you own your own shop" you can make alot of money.
Well, sure you will but the odd of getting your own business started and being sucessful is very slim.

I would use the same analogy as.....well, you can make alot of money waiting tables....once you get your own restaurant.

You maybe a good mechanic but owning your own business is another thing all together.
It takes money, alot of hard work, knowledge and alot of LUCK to have a successful business......any business, not just a repair shop.
 

You maybe a good mechanic but owning your own business is another thing all together.
It takes money, alot of hard work, knowledge and alot of LUCK to have a successful business......any business, not just a repair shop.

Luck has nothing to do with it, in order this it what it takes to run a successful shop ;

Business savvy
Knowledge and experience
Dedication
The ability to be a hard nosed prick
Money and lot's of it
Hard work
Communication skills

It is not easy, especially when you first start up the business, it is a hard struggle sometimes but I think it is worth it if you love what you are doing.

You are not going to get rich unless you either franchise your business or open up a chain of shops on your own.

Oh, and just to let you know, do not become a mechanic, become a Automotive Technician ;)