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nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Whomever is in charge of marketing and keeping the pulse of current music and such for Harmonix is sleeping on the job.
I'm 37 and not many people (gamers) in my age bracket are NOT into the Beatles.. My parents on the other hand are huge Beatle fans.. but I just dont see this title selling well.
Aerosmith, hell yes... Metallica.. hell freaking yes... Ozzy.. Sign me up right this sec... unfortunately.. every single one of those was lost to Activision and Neversoft.. I love RB and have not bought a GH game since GH3 because they are ridiculous and feel like they just throw alot of extra notes in thier charts try to see how hard you can work playing.
But holy crap.. they are killing Harmonix in securing valuable licenses for bands that this generation of Music listeners love..

I just dont see these older people buying this title. The beatles dont get any airplay even on the easy listening stations around here so younger gen doesnt even know or care who they are.

I dont see 10-19 year olds running around and asking mom for money to buy RB: Beatles.. AC/DC is a step in the right direction.. but even they have been away for 8 years.. thats an incredible long time in the music biz.
I cant even think the last time I heard them played on the air. Not to mention the deal with Walmart on this.. are you kidding?
I just think that Harmonix better come out of thier cave and find out what the music fans want and start grabbing these exclusives that actually matter to the target audience.

I know more people in our age bracket (assuming 30-40) that are gamers and Beatles fans than are gamers and Aerosmith fans. It also sounds like radio where you are is very different than it is here, as both AC/DC and the Beatles are still played.
 

CVSiN

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I just dont see it. Out of touch or not the Beatles just arnt that good.. as old as I am there has never been a time when I said.. man.. I gotta get that Beatles cd/LP.. never once has that ever crossed my mind.

I never get into a friends car and hear anything but the latest alternative/rock music or maybe some 80s tunes.. I dunno..

well just have to see but I think this is a huge bungle and waste of funds for a long forgotten mediocre band at best.

 

bl4ckfl4g

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Originally posted by: CVSiN


well just have to see but I think this is a huge bungle and waste of funds for a long forgotten mediocre band at best.

Oh my bad, I didn't realize you were just trollin. Please continue..
 

RagingBITCH

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Ehh...I'd rather download a $20 song pack of the Beatles than pay $60 for just their songs. Like GH: Aerosmith. Terrible idea.
 

tdawg

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Whomever is in charge of marketing and keeping the pulse of current music and such for Harmonix is sleeping on the job.
I'm 37 and not many people (gamers) in my age bracket are into the Beatles.. My parents on the other hand are huge Beatle fans.. but I just dont see this title selling well.
Aerosmith, hell yes... Metallica.. hell freaking yes... Ozzy.. Sign me up right this sec... unfortunately.. every single one of those was lost to Activision and Neversoft.. I love RB and have not bought a GH game since GH3 because they are ridiculous and feel like they just throw alot of extra notes in thier charts try to see how hard you can work playing.
But holy crap.. they are killing Harmonix in securing valuable licenses for bands that this generation of Music listeners love..

I just dont see these older people buying this title. The beatles dont get any airplay even on the easy listening stations around here so younger gen doesnt even know or care who they are.

I dont see 10-19 year olds running around and asking mom for money to buy RB: Beatles.. AC/DC is a step in the right direction.. but even they have been away for 8 years.. thats an incredible long time in the music biz.
I cant even think the last time I heard them played on the air. Not to mention the deal with Walmart on this.. are you kidding?
I just think that Harmonix better come out of thier cave and find out what the music fans want and start grabbing these exclusives that actually matter to the target audience.


The beauty of musical taste. As a 29 year old, I can emphatically say that I hate Metallica, AC/DC and Ozzy. Just garbage to my ears, but that's me. And what 10-19 year old wants to buy the latest AC/DC album? They probably want something from their generation, not the 80s. :p
 

Oyeve

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Ehh...I'd rather download a $20 song pack of the Beatles than pay $60 for just their songs. Like GH: Aerosmith. Terrible idea.

Same here. Im not an Aerosmith fan but like a few of their older songs and love playing on a plastic guitar while buzzed, but damn. last time I spend 60 bucks for a handful of good songs. I pretty much played the whole game in one sitting and the only song I would consider playing was She sells Sanctuary by The Cult, but once that song was DLC on rockband I just sold GH:Aerosmith as I just knew I would never pop that disc in again.

What we really need is Pink Floyd RB or GH, I dont care which game series but damn I want some Pink Floyd! I was so stoked when (falseley) stated that Comfortably Numb would be on GH:WT. Sigh, someday Gilmour, someday.......
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
I just dont see it. Out of touch or not the Beatles just arnt that good.. as old as I am there has never been a time when I said.. man.. I gotta get that Beatles cd/LP.. never once has that ever crossed my mind.

I never get into a friends car and hear anything but the latest alternative/rock music or maybe some 80s tunes.. I dunno..

well just have to see but I think this is a huge bungle and waste of funds for a long forgotten mediocre band at best.

That's interesting, after continuing to hear so many bands that I liked list specific Beatles albums as influences or as great albums, I said "I should check that out", and was rewarded by doing so.
Although I can assure you that when a friend gets into my car, they're not likely to hear the latest alternative/rock music, but may hear some lesser known 80s tracks (or Safety Dance, I can't help but love Safety Dance).
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Oyeve
What we really need is Pink Floyd RB or GH, I dont care which game series but damn I want some Pink Floyd! I was so stoked when (falseley) stated that Comfortably Numb would be on GH:WT. Sigh, someday Gilmour, someday.......

That would probably be enough to get me to finally head over to someone's house to try out this RB/GH craze :p
 

Oyeve

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: CVSiN
I just dont see it. Out of touch or not the Beatles just arnt that good.. as old as I am there has never been a time when I said.. man.. I gotta get that Beatles cd/LP.. never once has that ever crossed my mind.

I never get into a friends car and hear anything but the latest alternative/rock music or maybe some 80s tunes.. I dunno..

well just have to see but I think this is a huge bungle and waste of funds for a long forgotten mediocre band at best.

That's interesting, after continuing to hear so many bands that I liked list specific Beatles albums as influences or as great albums, I said "I should check that out", and was rewarded by doing so.
Although I can assure you that when a friend gets into my car, they're not likely to hear the latest alternative/rock music, but may hear some lesser known 80s tracks (or Safety Dance, I can't help but love Safety Dance).

Or how about some "Only After Dark" from the Human League (way before Don't you Want Me)? Thats the kind of stuff people hear in my car. Obscure little known music.
 

mc866

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: CVSiN
I just dont see it. Out of touch or not the Beatles just arnt that good.. as old as I am there has never been a time when I said.. man.. I gotta get that Beatles cd/LP.. never once has that ever crossed my mind.

I never get into a friends car and hear anything but the latest alternative/rock music or maybe some 80s tunes.. I dunno..

well just have to see but I think this is a huge bungle and waste of funds for a long forgotten mediocre band at best.

That's interesting, after continuing to hear so many bands that I liked list specific Beatles albums as influences or as great albums, I said "I should check that out", and was rewarded by doing so.
Although I can assure you that when a friend gets into my car, they're not likely to hear the latest alternative/rock music, but may hear some lesser known 80s tracks (or Safety Dance, I can't help but love Safety Dance).

I can't help but think of the video every time I hear that song, it has the little person skipping around with his hands in the air, LMFAO!!!!!!!!
 

oznerol

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I don't know how you can't like the Beatles.

But in a game like this, their stuff isn't really difficult or complex. Catchy, sure, and it's nice that everyone will know the songs/lyrics, but they weren't particularly notorious for rocking out.

Bands that would be a bit more relevant, that are currently not in any of these games: Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, U2, Pink Floyd, Bush.
 

Oyeve

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Oyeve
What we really need is Pink Floyd RB or GH, I dont care which game series but damn I want some Pink Floyd! I was so stoked when (falseley) stated that Comfortably Numb would be on GH:WT. Sigh, someday Gilmour, someday.......

That would probably be enough to get me to finally head over to someone's house to try out this RB/GH craze :p

I know! Those 2 guitar solos, man, that would be so freaking awesome!
 

Oyeve

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Originally posted by: mc866
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: CVSiN
I just dont see it. Out of touch or not the Beatles just arnt that good.. as old as I am there has never been a time when I said.. man.. I gotta get that Beatles cd/LP.. never once has that ever crossed my mind.

I never get into a friends car and hear anything but the latest alternative/rock music or maybe some 80s tunes.. I dunno..

well just have to see but I think this is a huge bungle and waste of funds for a long forgotten mediocre band at best.

That's interesting, after continuing to hear so many bands that I liked list specific Beatles albums as influences or as great albums, I said "I should check that out", and was rewarded by doing so.
Although I can assure you that when a friend gets into my car, they're not likely to hear the latest alternative/rock music, but may hear some lesser known 80s tracks (or Safety Dance, I can't help but love Safety Dance).

I can't help but think of the video every time I hear that song, it has the little person skipping around with his hands in the air, LMFAO!!!!!!!!

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CVSiN

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hahahahah Lol hey thats the kinda stuff I listen to!
we have an all 80s station here and they play that alot =D
We can dance we can dance everyone look at your hands.. lol.. wtf...

great fun 80s music... and yes I know Human League as well =D

btw this just in.. its not a RB game.. nor songs for RB.. its something new so my argument doesnt hold water anymore..

Beatles Music Game "Not a 'Rock Band' Game"

[October 30, 2008, 12:48 pm ET] - 3 Comments
MTV News has a follow-up on yesterdays indications of a deal for a Beatles music game with Harmonix, saying it will be released for the holiday season next year, but it will not be a Rock Band game. They quote Harmonix CEO Alex Rigopulos from the conference call on the project saying "It's not a 'Rock Band' game, it's a new creative exploration of their music and a celebration of their legacy in a way that hasn't been done before." Rigopulos also says it will be a "music-making game. ... There will be interactive performance of the music ... and stuff you haven't seen from us before." This does not necessarily rule out the possibility of the fab four in Rock Band, as they say: "The MTV and Apple Corps representatives on the conference call declined to say whether this deal would deliver the band's music to 'Rock Band' itself." MTV Multiplayer has the official press release on the project, but the article about the conference call offers more about the game, while the press release, which offers quotes from Sir Paul McCartney and Ringo Star as well as Yoko Ono Lennon and Cynthia Harrison, concentrates on heaping lavish praise on The Beatles for their illustrious career.
 

Oyeve

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Methinks Michael Jackson really needs the $$$$. He'd make a mint out of this.
 

jdport

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Some of you might be right about how the 20 year old crowd isn't likely to flock out and buy this release. However, you're forgetting something. This game very well could bring a whole bunch of new fans who hadn't considered buying these games previously. The Beatles are *HUGE*. You could market a steaming pile of turds and if you put a "Beatles" insignia on it, people would buy it. Whether or not you are a fan of them, there are a ridiculous number of people out there who are... and people who love the beatles really LOVE the beatles. So ... while your metallica kiddies out there might not be interested in this edition, you are bringing a whole new demographic into the genre of gaming and they may very well start buying past and future titles based on falling in love with this edition of the game thus securing even bigger profits in the future.

This is the same argument i've made in the past why there should be a country edition of GH and/or rock band (better fit for rock band IMO)... because it would introduce this game to a whole new group of people who may have passed up on it before because they didn't see their favorite bands included. (I don't mean to debate that issue in this thread... it's been done in others). I personally think the Beatles would be a ton of fun, even if not overly difficult and I'm excited to see what they come out with.... and I'm not even a huge Beatles fan...
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: jdport
Some of you might be right about how the 20 year old crowd isn't likely to flock out and buy this release. However, you're forgetting something. This game very well could bring a whole bunch of new fans who hadn't considered buying these games previously. The Beatles are *HUGE*. You could market a steaming pile of turds and if you put a "Beatles" insignia on it, people would buy it. Whether or not you are a fan of them, there are a ridiculous number of people out there who are... and people who love the beatles really LOVE the beatles. So ... while your metallica kiddies out there might not be interested in this edition, you are bringing a whole new demographic into the genre of gaming and they may very well start buying past and future titles based on falling in love with this edition of the game thus securing even bigger profits in the future.

This is the same argument i've made in the past why there should be a country edition of GH and/or rock band (better fit for rock band IMO)... because it would introduce this game to a whole new group of people who may have passed up on it before because they didn't see their favorite bands included. (I don't mean to debate that issue in this thread... it's been done in others). I personally think the Beatles would be a ton of fun, even if not overly difficult and I'm excited to see what they come out with.... and I'm not even a huge Beatles fan...

Well as posted above its a new type of music game celebrating the Beatles.
so not even an issue.

But I think you are 100% right about adding some Country to RB.. it would sell millions.

We actually were talking about that at lunch today believe it or not.
my boss just bought GHWT and it has a Willie Nelson track on it and he digged it.. and brought up why doesn't it have some more Country. Specially being that country is alot closer to rock these days than CW in the past.
 

gorcorps

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Meh... Beatles... no thanks.. AC/DC and Metallica are one thing.. Beatles quite another.. and I never really liked them at all.

Disappointing.. GH gets Metallica/Tool.. we get the Beatles...

Metallica's on both consoles, with the exception of the new album but if you really want that then you should be shot. I am quite disappointed not having Tool in RB though, I have no other interest in GH:WT otherwise.

You are a bit outa touch man... GH: Metallica is officially announced in GHWT
and the new album is every bit as good as AJFA they got their old sound back.

A bit out of touch, yes I didn't know there was a separate metallica game announce. But the vocals sound so tired and awful on Death Magnetic that I just couldn't listen to the whole thing. Yes, the guitar work and MUSIC sound great, but the vocals ruined the entire album for me.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: jdport
Some of you might be right about how the 20 year old crowd isn't likely to flock out and buy this release. However, you're forgetting something. This game very well could bring a whole bunch of new fans who hadn't considered buying these games previously. The Beatles are *HUGE*. You could market a steaming pile of turds and if you put a "Beatles" insignia on it, people would buy it. Whether or not you are a fan of them, there are a ridiculous number of people out there who are... and people who love the beatles really LOVE the beatles. So ... while your metallica kiddies out there might not be interested in this edition, you are bringing a whole new demographic into the genre of gaming and they may very well start buying past and future titles based on falling in love with this edition of the game thus securing even bigger profits in the future.

This is the same argument i've made in the past why there should be a country edition of GH and/or rock band (better fit for rock band IMO)... because it would introduce this game to a whole new group of people who may have passed up on it before because they didn't see their favorite bands included. (I don't mean to debate that issue in this thread... it's been done in others). I personally think the Beatles would be a ton of fun, even if not overly difficult and I'm excited to see what they come out with.... and I'm not even a huge Beatles fan...

I don't know how widespread this is, but my friend said his (teenage) kids started to get into the Beatles after they watched "Across the Universe"
 

BRObedoza

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I would have bought it if it was an expansion disc or DLC, but now I'm not so sure. I'll have to wait and see how this game turns out.
 

jdport

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I'll probably buy it anyway, but I agree with you Sleepmachine.. it's less exciting as a "whole new game" than it was as an expansion.