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Zenmervolt
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Originally posted by: Jawo
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: da loser
Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
California vs. Air Force Fort Worth, Texas Dec. 31, 12:30 p.m. ESPN
so you're saying we got a chance
OSU should be penalized because they played a weakass non-conference schedule as well as the big ten being the weakest conference on top of not playing a championship game.
should've been LSU and OU/USC.
Yes, because LSU played non-conference powerhouses such as Mississippi State, Middle Tennessee State, Tulane, and Louisiana Tech. I mean, all of those schools were legitimate contenders... Oh... Wait...
LSU's non-conference schedule was every bit as weak as OSU's. At least OSU scheduled a team that's occasionally good (UW). LSU didn't even try to schedule a non-conference team that could have been a threat.
ZV
LSU played Va Tech. Who did OSU play?
I think he's talking about the powerhouses known as Youngstown State, Akron, and Kent State! Look at those powerhouse teams!
OSU is totally surving on their legacy and reputation, not what happened this past season, which is what matters the most!
No, I'm not saying that OSU beat any non-conference "powerhouse" teams. Only pointing out that OSU's non-conference schedule is no different than LSU's.
Historically, UW has been a stronger program than VT. This year, that wasn't the case, but non-conference games are scheduled several years in advance. There's no way anyone can accuse OSU of intentionally scheduling any easier of a non-conference schedule than LSU scheduled.
As far as the Big 10 being the weakest conference, that's ridiculous. The Big 10 was not the strongest conference this year (SEC, followed by the Pac-10, IMO), but the Big 10 was clearly superior to the Big East and the ACC. The Big 10 is at least on par with the Big 12 this year as well.
ZV
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Jawo
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: da loser
Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
California vs. Air Force Fort Worth, Texas Dec. 31, 12:30 p.m. ESPN
so you're saying we got a chance
OSU should be penalized because they played a weakass non-conference schedule as well as the big ten being the weakest conference on top of not playing a championship game.
should've been LSU and OU/USC.
Yes, because LSU played non-conference powerhouses such as Mississippi State, Middle Tennessee State, Tulane, and Louisiana Tech. I mean, all of those schools were legitimate contenders... Oh... Wait...
LSU's non-conference schedule was every bit as weak as OSU's. At least OSU scheduled a team that's occasionally good (UW). LSU didn't even try to schedule a non-conference team that could have been a threat.
ZV
LSU played Va Tech. Who did OSU play?
I think he's talking about the powerhouses known as Youngstown State, Akron, and Kent State! Look at those powerhouse teams!
OSU is totally surving on their legacy and reputation, not what happened this past season, which is what matters the most!
No, I'm not saying that OSU beat any non-conference "powerhouse" teams. Only pointing out that OSU's non-conference schedule is no different than LSU's.
Historically, UW has been a stronger program than VT. This year, that wasn't the case, but non-conference games are scheduled several years in advance. There's no way anyone can accuse OSU of intentionally scheduling any easier of a non-conference schedule than LSU scheduled.
As far as the Big 10 being the weakest conference, that's ridiculous. The Big 10 was not the strongest conference this year (SEC, followed by the Pac-10, IMO), but the Big 10 was clearly superior to the Big East and the ACC. The Big 10 is at least on par with the Big 12 this year as well.
ZV
to osu's credit they play atleast 1 good OOC team every year, texas the past few years, sc the next couple of year, they just happened to schedule softies this year i think
i think overall osu/michigan plays pretty good ooc teams, outside of tenn traveling to cal this year, i cant remember any sec teams travelling out west,
Gibsons
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You're trying to change the point. You said: "LSU's non-conference schedule was every bit as weak as OSU's."Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Jawo
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: da loser
Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
California vs. Air Force Fort Worth, Texas Dec. 31, 12:30 p.m. ESPN
so you're saying we got a chance
OSU should be penalized because they played a weakass non-conference schedule as well as the big ten being the weakest conference on top of not playing a championship game.
should've been LSU and OU/USC.
Yes, because LSU played non-conference powerhouses such as Mississippi State, Middle Tennessee State, Tulane, and Louisiana Tech. I mean, all of those schools were legitimate contenders... Oh... Wait...
LSU's non-conference schedule was every bit as weak as OSU's. At least OSU scheduled a team that's occasionally good (UW). LSU didn't even try to schedule a non-conference team that could have been a threat.
ZV
LSU played Va Tech. Who did OSU play?
I think he's talking about the powerhouses known as Youngstown State, Akron, and Kent State! Look at those powerhouse teams!
OSU is totally surving on their legacy and reputation, not what happened this past season, which is what matters the most!
No, I'm not saying that OSU beat any non-conference "powerhouse" teams. Only pointing out that OSU's non-conference schedule is no different than LSU's.
Historically, UW has been a stronger program than VT. This year, that wasn't the case, but non-conference games are scheduled several years in advance. There's no way anyone can accuse OSU of intentionally scheduling any easier of a non-conference schedule than LSU scheduled.
As far as the Big 10 being the weakest conference, that's ridiculous. The Big 10 was not the strongest conference this year (SEC, followed by the Pac-10, IMO), but the Big 10 was clearly superior to the Big East and the ACC. The Big 10 is at least on par with the Big 12 this year as well.
ZV
To quote Mike Gundy "It ain't true!"
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I hope everybody keeps on saying we'll get destroyed. Of all the teams to play in nc, we match up best with lsu.
Yeah, he left for the NFL and just screwed this whole year for us. Oh wait...
But I agree that Oregon and WVU place a huge amount of the game in their QB's hands. And where the hell was Slaton? Geez.
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Jawo
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: da loser
Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
California vs. Air Force Fort Worth, Texas Dec. 31, 12:30 p.m. ESPN
so you're saying we got a chance
OSU should be penalized because they played a weakass non-conference schedule as well as the big ten being the weakest conference on top of not playing a championship game.
should've been LSU and OU/USC.
Yes, because LSU played non-conference powerhouses such as Mississippi State, Middle Tennessee State, Tulane, and Louisiana Tech. I mean, all of those schools were legitimate contenders... Oh... Wait...
LSU's non-conference schedule was every bit as weak as OSU's. At least OSU scheduled a team that's occasionally good (UW). LSU didn't even try to schedule a non-conference team that could have been a threat.
ZV
LSU played Va Tech. Who did OSU play?
I think he's talking about the powerhouses known as Youngstown State, Akron, and Kent State! Look at those powerhouse teams!
OSU is totally surving on their legacy and reputation, not what happened this past season, which is what matters the most!
No, I'm not saying that OSU beat any non-conference "powerhouse" teams. Only pointing out that OSU's non-conference schedule is no different than LSU's.
Historically, UW has been a stronger program than VT. This year, that wasn't the case, but non-conference games are scheduled several years in advance. There's no way anyone can accuse OSU of intentionally scheduling any easier of a non-conference schedule than LSU scheduled.
As far as the Big 10 being the weakest conference, that's ridiculous. The Big 10 was not the strongest conference this year (SEC, followed by the Pac-10, IMO), but the Big 10 was clearly superior to the Big East and the ACC. The Big 10 is at least on par with the Big 12 this year as well.
ZV
Historically? In the last decade at least how can you say that UW has been as strong as Tech?? They are good, but they are not on the same level of Tech unless you go back for a while before VT was serious contenders.
The Big 10 most definitely was one of the weaker conferences this year.
SEC: LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee (Hands down the strongest conference)
This year either these conferences are fairly equal:
{
Big 12: Kansas, Texas, OU, Mizzou
ACC: VT, UVA, Clemson, Virginia, BC
}
PAC-10: USC, Arizona St., Oregon (Assuming healthy Dixon)
Big East: WVU, South Florida, Cincinnati, UConn
Big 10: OSU, Illinois, Wisconson
....
....
WAC: Hawaii, Boise State
MW: BYU
Obviously more detailed than that based on the strength of other teams in the conference, but Big 10 clearly isn't as strong as it once was and that OSU is #1 and not #4 or #5 based purely on reputation.
-Kevin
OSU should be doing a happy dance that WVU got upset...the Big Ten has some sort of mental block about defending the spread option.
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!?
So how did you do against Florida last year (Keeping in mind your QB won the Heisman last year)? Yea thats what I thought...
Not even close. OU, VT, LSU, Georgia, USC all match up better than OSU does.
-Kevin
i think so, besides lsu's defense isn't all that its built up to be, lsu's defense has been pretty much exposed by mcfadden, ofcourse osu's running back is not as good as mcfadden but they are going to have their chances
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Jawo
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: da loser
Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
California vs. Air Force Fort Worth, Texas Dec. 31, 12:30 p.m. ESPN
so you're saying we got a chance
OSU should be penalized because they played a weakass non-conference schedule as well as the big ten being the weakest conference on top of not playing a championship game.
should've been LSU and OU/USC.
Yes, because LSU played non-conference powerhouses such as Mississippi State, Middle Tennessee State, Tulane, and Louisiana Tech. I mean, all of those schools were legitimate contenders... Oh... Wait...
LSU's non-conference schedule was every bit as weak as OSU's. At least OSU scheduled a team that's occasionally good (UW). LSU didn't even try to schedule a non-conference team that could have been a threat.
ZV
LSU played Va Tech. Who did OSU play?
I think he's talking about the powerhouses known as Youngstown State, Akron, and Kent State! Look at those powerhouse teams!
OSU is totally surving on their legacy and reputation, not what happened this past season, which is what matters the most!
No, I'm not saying that OSU beat any non-conference "powerhouse" teams. Only pointing out that OSU's non-conference schedule is no different than LSU's.
Historically, UW has been a stronger program than VT. This year, that wasn't the case, but non-conference games are scheduled several years in advance. There's no way anyone can accuse OSU of intentionally scheduling any easier of a non-conference schedule than LSU scheduled.
As far as the Big 10 being the weakest conference, that's ridiculous. The Big 10 was not the strongest conference this year (SEC, followed by the Pac-10, IMO), but the Big 10 was clearly superior to the Big East and the ACC. The Big 10 is at least on par with the Big 12 this year as well.
ZV
to osu's credit they play atleast 1 good OOC team every year, texas the past few years, sc the next couple of year, they just happened to schedule softies this year i think
i think overall osu/michigan plays pretty good ooc teams, outside of tenn traveling to cal this year, i cant remember any sec teams travelling out west,
Umm...think again! The run Sagarin run down is SEC, Big East, PAC-10, Big 12, ACC, Big 10 (11). http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc07.htm
He's right, you know. LSU runs a very traditional offense which plays to OSU's defensive strength. WVU playing OSU in the BCS title game would be a more appropriate comparison to FU last year.
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Because they abandoned the run and became 1-D. 9 Carries?? You didn't give the guy a chance at all. Granted he was at just over 1 yd per carry, but still you gotta give him a chance to pull out of that. Bad coaching decisions and an unfortunate injury to White-- don't get me wrong though PITT played one heck of a game and they even overcame some ridiculous holding penalties- Hats off to them.
-Kevin
ZV, Please name another school that has won at least 10 games for the last four consecutive years, plus (or) gone to 14 consecutive bowl games! NOT Overrated State!
Zenmervolt
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When LSU put their non-conference schedule together, it absolutely was true. That's all I meant.
ZV
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They do, but LSU's D-Line may as well enter the draft right now- they are THAT good and THAT big. Much larger than the speedy Florida team this past year.
Team has been pretty banged up, most notably Glenn Dorsey who is a freak of nature.
-Kevin
lsu is supposed to be pretty stacked on talent, giving up 200 + yards to a guy doesnt come down to 1 guy being banged up, either way, lsu wont be able to throttle osu IMO, they match up better than say wvu vs osu or oregon vs osu
I've been trying to figure that out too.
And have to agree with the match ups. Dorsey against Boone. Or is Dorsey an inside tackle? Either way, our O line against their D line is a very good match up. Think Illinois, 1995, Rice with all he could handle in Pace & co.
Mostly SEC fanboys trashing the game, think the rest in this thread are pretty even keeled. UGA vs. USC would indeed have been a good game but the Illini aren't going to roll over for no one. I think most in this thread will be surprised by the end of the bowls. If we were in Vegas I'd want in on this action.
What I don't get is how Kansas made it in.
Zenmervolt
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Congratulations. You've won a bunch of games while playing in the Big Least and ACC conference.
Maybe your Hokies can step up next year and start playing in the WAC.
ZV
As an Auburn fan, I see LSU every year and while the guys on their DLine are good, they are not all-powerful. Auburn's OL with 3 true freshman kept them notably quiet for most of the game this year.
Please stop with the comparisons to last year's title game too. FU and LSU are two completely different teams with radically different coaching philosophies.
The Zooker and the Illini are going to get crushed. Kudos to them for getting to a BCS game but I forsee a beating similar to the one LSU put on Notre Dame.
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Dorsey is that good. Remember the Colts defense without Bob Sanders-- horrid. Also, Dorsey is not the only one who is not playing at 100% right now either-- they are pretty banged up.
Spread option is harder for OSU to defend and LSU does have some spread plays, but they do not define themselves by that. Look for a lot of deep out routes and a few option plays from Perriloux (<- Who should be playing in front of Flynn IMO).
OSU's D-Line just can't match up against LSU's O-Line, and OSU's O-Line just cannot match up against LSU's D-Line-- especially with a healthy Dorsey just sitting 5 yards away ready to shoot through a gap like a heat seeking missile.
-Kevin
You really do accept everything the talking heads on ESPN say don't you? The sooner you realize you're talking out your ass the happier you'll be.
Edit: Perriloux will be lucky to make it a full season without getting his dumbass thrown in jail.
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