BCS Rankings 11/28/10 *EDIT* TCU Joining Big East*

[Squisher]

It sucks that Michigan State is getting ranked lower than OSU and Wisconsin, because the computer has them ahead and their BCS ranking is the tiebreaker for the Rose bowl.

 

[rcpratt]

It sucks that Michigan State is getting ranked lower than OSU and Wisconsin, because the computer has them ahead and their BCS ranking is the tiebreaker for the Rose bowl.

Unlucky scheduling year for MSU. Too bad they didn't get to play the Bucks and this could have sorted itself out.

It's also a no-brainer to send OSU to New Orleans, unfortunately. All about that cash money. Although, to be honest, if I had to rank the three right now I would have them how they ended up anyways.

 

[roguerower]

Awesome Stanford is Orange Bowl bound. Too bad they have to play the weak ass Chumps of the ACC, either VT or FSU.

Awesome Stanford? The stars aligned for this season and you're calling them awesome? Historically, they were 8-5 in '09, 5-7 in '08, 4-8 in '07, 1-11 in '06. Whereas VT has had 7 straight 10 win seasons. Yea, Stanford is really that awesome.

First off JMU is not DII. They are D1AA (More correctly identified as FCS) - BIG BIG difference between the 2.

Not to make excuses for the loss to JMU, but come on, it was week 2 of the season. Not only that, with BSU on a Monday night, they then miss practice on Tuesday and are not allowed to practice on Friday- thus after an emotional let down they are playing on 2 days rest/practice. Once again, no excuses, but its probably time to let it go-- afterall Michigan absolutely slaughtered Tebow and Florida in a bowl game after losing to App St.

VT just ran off 10 straight wins by literally blowing everyone out (Outside of GT). Also, suddenly BSU loses and are overrated? Give me a break...

You seem really biased against the ACC honestly. I can understand us being a weak conference (Especially this year), but saying that there are no respectable teams in the ACC is ludicrous.

-Kevin

Just like teams have ups and downs (Texas, Florida, USC), so do conferences. Unfortunately, it would seem that the ACC has been in a funk for a while. Hopefully with the coaching change at Miami and FSU those schools will begin to return to their former glory and make the ACC a stronger conference.

 

[rcpratt]

Awesome Stanford? The stars aligned for this season and you're calling them awesome? Historically, they were 8-5 in '09, 5-7 in '08, 4-8 in '07, 1-11 in '06. Whereas VT has had 7 straight 10 win seasons. Yea, Stanford is really that awesome.

I think the awesome part was about the Orange Bowl. :hmm:

Although, frankly, I'd be hoping for the Fiesta if I were a Stanford fan. Closer game, better opponent (although really not that far off depending on who wins).

 

[SP33Demon]

As a VT Alum/Fan I would really rather not play (and subsequently blow out) WVU.

I would rather see VT vs OSU (Ohio St) or VT vs WIS. Heck I would be fine with VT vs STAN.

-Kevin

How the hell would VT "blow out" WVU?
http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/football/ncaaf/stats/team-total-defense

Ranked #3 in Defense in the country and VT is 42nd... overall Sagarin has VT only 8 spots ahead of WVU.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm

All in all it won't matter if UConn wins this weekend, WVU's offense kept fumbling in their loss to them and that will probably give the Huskies the BCS bid.

 

[DT4K]

Awesome Stanford? The stars aligned for this season and you're calling them awesome? Historically, they were 8-5 in '09, 5-7 in '08, 4-8 in '07, 1-11 in '06. Whereas VT has had 7 straight 10 win seasons. Yea, Stanford is really that awesome.

I think Red forgot some punctuation in there and meant it like this:
Awesome! Stanford headed to the Orange Bowl.

But either way, a team's historical record is meaningless.

I have no idea who would win if Stanford plays VT in a bowl game this year.

But I do know that Stanford's 1-11 record in '06 and VT's 7 straight 10 win seasons will have ZERO impact on the outcome of this game, this year.

 

[SP33Demon]

First off JMU is not DII. They are D1AA (More correctly identified as FCS) - BIG BIG difference between the 2.

Not to make excuses for the loss to JMU, but come on, it was week 2 of the season. Not only that, with BSU on a Monday night, they then miss practice on Tuesday and are not allowed to practice on Friday- thus after an emotional let down they are playing on 2 days rest/practice. Once again, no excuses, but its probably time to let it go-- afterall Michigan absolutely slaughtered Tebow and Florida in a bowl game after losing to App St.

VT just ran off 10 straight wins by literally blowing everyone out (Outside of GT). Also, suddenly BSU loses and are overrated? Give me a break...

You seem really biased against the ACC honestly. I can understand us being a weak conference (Especially this year), but saying that there are no respectable teams in the ACC is ludicrous.

-Kevin

VT still lost to James Madison, who gives a fck what week it was? Do you know the difference in grant money between the schools, let alone the recruiting power between the two (I live in VA)? Granted, they have redeemed themselves a bit since then but what other top 25 team has lost to a fcking Div II (ok Div 1AA w/e) school this year?

 

[rcpratt]

Don't really get the move for TCU. This won't buy them any more respect in future national championship race discussions, if they can even survive that brutal Big East schedule.

 

[SP33Demon]

TCU to the Big East! Huge huge move for that conference, expanding into the Texas market with such a solid team. TCU will finally get its BCS bid and have the chance to make some big Bowl money by finishing high in the conf. Big 12, suck on it.

 

[ElFenix]

big east just bought some football respect

wonder who else they might take?

TCU to the Big East! Huge huge move for that conference, expanding into the Texas market with such a solid team. TCU will finally get its BCS bid and have the chance to make some big Bowl money by finishing high in the conf. Big 12, suck on it.

apparently tcu has been having trouble selling out their football stadium even while losing 1 game in the last 2 years. the big 12 didn't want tcu because the big 12 already owns the dallas tv market.

 

[Svnla]

With a Sugar Bowl bid on the line, LSU with Les Mile as the head coach screw up big time.

Ark gave up not one but two INTs, one punt fumble, yet LSU could not get any TDs out of those turnovers.

Six seconds left and let Ark scored a long 80 plus yards TD and another 70 plus yards TD before that. Where did the DBs learn how to tackle?

Offense sucked...again. That was their last game of the season and they played worse than Jr High players (fault starts, fumble, botch snaps, personal fault, unsportman conduct, and on and on).

 

[roguerower]

How the hell would VT "blow out" WVU?
http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/football/ncaaf/stats/team-total-defense

And Auburn is #53. By your logic they should not be allowed to be ranked #1

Ranked #3 in Defense in the country and VT is 42nd... overall Sagarin has VT only 8 spots ahead of WVU.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm

What the hell is that? Strength of schedule for 2009? How is that relevant?

All in all it won't matter if UConn wins this weekend, WVU's offense kept fumbling in their loss to them and that will probably give the Huskies the BCS bid.

There. Fixed that for you.

 

[Gibsons]

Don't really get the move for TCU. This won't buy them any more respect in future national championship race discussions, if they can even survive that brutal Big East schedule.

I think it's probably good for them and the Big East. Even though it's the big east, TCU will get a little more respect for their schedule. TCU makes the big east a better conference, too, something they needed.

 

[JujuFish]

What the hell is that? Strength of schedule for 2009? How is that relevant?

This coming from a guy trying to argue against Stanford based upon their past performances. Rich.

 

[CPA]

Automatic BCS bids are ridiculous. The fact that the big east (or the ACC to a much lesser extent) gets a bid this year is almost laughable.

Stop with this nonsense already. One bad year. Check out conference RPI's and SOS and tell me otherwise.

 

[CPA]

big east just bought some football respect

wonder who else they might take?





apparently tcu has been having trouble selling out their football stadium even while losing 1 game in the last 2 years. the big 12 didn't want tcu because the big 12 already owns the dallas tv market.

They have asked, embarrassingly, for Villanova to upgrade. If they don't (response is expected by end of year), then all signs point to UCF or Houston.

 

[ElFenix]

They have asked, embarrassingly, for Villanova to upgrade. If they don't (response is expected by end of year), then all signs point to UCF or Houston.

wouldn't mind UH going to the big east. although, they really need to get rid of that high school football stadium they play in. they sell beer there, though.

moar football!

 

[roguerower]

I think Red forgot some punctuation in there and meant it like this:
Awesome! Stanford headed to the Orange Bowl.

But either way, a team's historical record is meaningless.

I have no idea who would win if Stanford plays VT in a bowl game this year.

But I do know that Stanford's 1-11 record in '06 and VT's 7 straight 10 win seasons will have ZERO impact on the outcome of this game, this year.

Ah, that changes everything. I agree that a team's history has no impact on the outcome of a game, but it does tend to lend credibility to the program as a whole. Apologies for coming off snippy Red. I would love to see Stanford and VT play. Would be a really good game.

Don't really get the move for TCU. This won't buy them any more respect in future national championship race discussions, if they can even survive that brutal Big East schedule.

Agreed. Big East has 2 teams that aren't bowl eligible by 2 games. MWC has 4 teams that aren't even close to eligibility.

TCU to the Big East! Huge huge move for that conference, expanding into the Texas market with such a solid team. TCU will finally get its BCS bid and have the chance to make some big Bowl money by finishing high in the conf. Big 12, suck on it.

That's a big move for the conference and opens up a lot of potential recruiting territory. As for getting its BCS bid, lets wait to see how they perform. I think we'll see TCU struggle for the first couple of years as it adapts to playing in a real conference.

This coming from a guy trying to argue against Stanford based upon their past performances. Rich.

SOS for a previous season has no bearing on this season. Reviewing a team's past performances when I mistook what the poster was inferring is different.

 

[Gamingphreek]

How the hell would VT "blow out" WVU?
http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/football/ncaaf/stats/team-total-defense

Ranked #3 in Defense in the country and VT is 42nd... overall Sagarin has VT only 8 spots ahead of WVU.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm

All in all it won't matter if UConn wins this weekend, WVU's offense kept fumbling in their loss to them and that will probably give the Huskies the BCS bid.

Really touting Defense in the Big East?

WVU has played 2 teams ranked in the top *50* in scoring offense MD (46) and LSU (50). Outside of that the offenses they faced were:
Coastal Carolina - FCS Unranked
Marshall - 101st
UNLV - 110th
South Florida - 83rd
Syracuse - 99th
Connecticut - 68th
Cincinnati - 52nd
Louisville - 70th
Pitt - 69th

This averages (Minus Coastal Carolina) to 74.8. WVU had better have a statistically good Defense with the garbage offenses it has been against.

VT's Defense (In a rebuilding year) meanwhile had to deal with BSU, ECU, NC State all of which are in the top 30, 2 of which are in the top 13.

WVU has played, outside of LSU, nobodies and couldn't even run the table in their conference.

-Kevin

 

[Gamingphreek]

VT still lost to James Madison, who gives a fck what week it was? Do you know the difference in grant money between the schools, let alone the recruiting power between the two (I live in VA)? Granted, they have redeemed themselves a bit since then but what other top 25 team has lost to a fcking Div II (ok Div 1AA w/e) school this year?

This year, I thought 2 others did.

Yes they lost, but understanding the circumstances under which that happened is very important. It was an incredibly dumb decision by the VT Athletic Dept to let that game happen when it did.

It certainly doesn't excuse an embarrassing loss, but those situations as well as running the table the rest of the way should at the very least nullify that loss.

-Kevin

 

[rcpratt]

This year, I thought 2 others did.

Yes they lost, but understanding the circumstances under which that happened is very important. It was an incredibly dumb decision by the VT Athletic Dept to let that game happen when it did.

It certainly doesn't excuse an embarrassing loss, but those situations as well as running the table the rest of the way should at the very least nullify that loss.

-Kevin

UofM in 2007 and this years' Hokies are the only two schools to have ever lost to FCS schools while being ranked.

 

[sactoking]

I think it's probably good for them and the Big East. Even though it's the big east, TCU will get a little more respect for their schedule. TCU makes the big east a better conference, too, something they needed.

I think it's a good move for the Big East but a bad move for TCU. Adding TCU gives the Big East a prayer of keeping their AQ status when it's up for renewal in 5 years (assuming the BCS even exists then), but even then it's not guaranteed; the Big East just plain stinks.

It's a bad move for TCU. In the short term they get access to an AQ spot and the money that comes with it. In the long term they hitch their horse to a league that could lose an AQ spot while leaving a league that could gain an AQ spot. The Mountain West with TCU, Boise, Nevada, Fresno, Air Force, and Utah would almost be guaranteed an AQ spot over the Big East when renewals come up. The MWC is going to be much tougher overall than the BE. Yes, TCU gets to avoid the Boise and Utah games in favor of Rutgers and USF, but TCU steamrolling the Big East, AQ or not, is NOT going to get them a NCG appearance over a Big-10/12, Pac-12, SEC team.

TCU will have the same trouble getting NCG respect it has always had, have 5 years of more money coming in, and then get the rug pulled out from underneath them.

Of course, this is assuming the BCS even exists in 2015.

 

[JohnnyGage]

It will probably end up being Stanford and Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl commitee has a bug up their ass about having a PAC10/BIG10 match up.

VT should be nowhere near a BCS bowl. Music City Bowl, Holiday Bowl, Advocare V100 Independence bowl, or even the Insight bowl then maybe.

 

[rcpratt]

It will probably end up being Stanford and Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl commitee has a bug up their ass about having a PAC10/BIG10 match up.

VT should be nowhere near a BCS bowl. Music City Bowl, Holiday Bowl, Advocare V100 Independence bowl, or even the Insight bowl then maybe.

That might be what the Rose Bowl wants, but that's not what they're going to get. BCS Selection Rules:

For the games of January 2011 through 2014, the first year the Rose Bowl loses a team to the NCG and a team from the non-AQ group is an automatic qualifier, that non-AQ team will play in the Rose Bowl.

 

[95SS]

It will probably end up being Stanford and Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl commitee has a bug up their ass about having a PAC10/BIG10 match up.

VT should be nowhere near a BCS bowl. Music City Bowl, Holiday Bowl, Advocare V100 Independence bowl, or even the Insight bowl then maybe.

Rose Bowl has to take a non-AQ school, unless the top non-AQ school is in the NC game. Only way Stanford plays in the Rose Bowl is if Auburn loses to SC.