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Alistar7

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this sucks, cant figure out how to pull up old articles there, only using whats on there right now...
 

Alistar7

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That's five Fox stories that clearly paint the US in an unfavourable light. Does anyone believe Iran, no, but they still reported it as everyone else rightfully did as well.

5 bbc articles which present the US favourably......
 

flavio

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
That's five Fox stories that clearly paint the US in an unfavourable light. Does anyone believe Iran, no, but they still reported it as everyone else rightfully did as well.

5 bbc articles which present the US favourably......

None of those articles really presents the US unfavorably at all. The one about bombing Canadians comes close but really it just presents the two pilots unfavorably.

1. Iran rejects allegations? That's not unfavorable to the US.

3. The Iran Protests?

Although the protests largely stopped after a huge security deployment and the unleashing of hard-line thugs to attack the protesters, sporadic protests have spread to other Iranian cities in recent days.

Iran unleashed hard-line thugs to attack the protestors? That presents Iran unfavorably.

4. Your Korea story?

North Korea traditionally churns out sabre-rattling rhetoric when its relations with the outside world worsen.

OMG! That's written in the article...did you see that?!?!?!

5. We have cultural differences? Umnnn.....

Some of these really just make the bias more obvious.
 

Moonbeam

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Alistar, is it politics with you or post count. Why eight posts to do the job of one. It's like that wherever you post. Really bad for the credibility. Sort of like going to war to take focus of the economy before an election and calling it for reasons of WMD.
 

Alistar7

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before what election?

it's all post count, I don't even beleive anything I post. and wtf does post count have to do with anything? is it anything like penis envy" ? Would it be better if it were 4,000+ LaRouche quotes and comments?

Honestly I think Bush lied about everything.

really starting to not care though. people just ignore what they dont agree with, like yourself.

"As it has proved impossible to verify the production and destruction details of R-400 bombs,
UNMOVIC cannot discount the possibility that some CW and BW filled R-400 bombs remain in
Iraq."

that is from March 6th, 2003, right before the war. There you have the UN saying they could not even claim for sure there were no WMD left, yet you will not even admit the possibility there were. Sorry, but I will take their word over yours, or Bush.....

Flav I agree some of those were weak, not familiar with the site and could not search back, only could use what was right there, pretty limited. But still it seems like factual reporting, and issues being covered that do present another side other than the GOP. I could do a quick rewrite on them and give you real pro-American spin if you like.... Any luck finding any BBC articles that are not critical of the US's efforts in Iraq?

Are you familiar with the PBS here in America? When I think of a publicy funded media that comes to mind, the BBC seems much more like a privately controlled media outlet. I can understand the frustration of the parties they oppose and obviously use their "impartial" and publicly funded medium to practice politics against them.
 

adlep

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Alistar7
I am not sure, if you are doing this purposely or something, but pleze do not be an ignorant.
BBC is the best news organization in the world
Yes they do make mistakes, but do not bash them just because they criticize the US for starting a shady war...:Q
 

Moonbeam

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really starting to not care though. people just ignore what they dont agree with, like yourself.
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Yes, how true, you and a lot of other people don't agree with me so you and they just ignore what I say. Oh well, I'm used to it.

So where are the damn weapons and why did we guard the wells. Millions of weapons and Al Quada everywhere in Iraq and we know what and where on the weapons but leave the sites ungarded so they can be looted and used over here. Like I;ve said, we are either insane, or we knew there were no weapons, right?

 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
That's five Fox stories that clearly paint the US in an unfavourable light. Does anyone believe Iran, no, but they still reported it as everyone else rightfully did as well.

5 bbc articles which present the US favourably......

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You don't suppose ratings has something to do with what is aired. Commercial media has a higher god... money.

 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: adlep
Alistar7
I am not sure, if you are doing this purposely or something, but pleze do not be an ignorant.
BBC is the best news organization in the world
Yes they do make mistakes, but do not bash them just because they criticize the US for starting a shady war...:Q

I was not bashing them, only bringing to light the fact others in the UK and worldwide are.....

The claims of bias are not only leveled about American stories, this has plauged the BBC within the UK for years.
 

Moonbeam

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Interestingly, I heard that America with its suck up press is 70% uninterested in the WMD fraud, but in England, where the press is reporting the issue its only 40%. We are the media which means that Americans aren't very much.
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Interestingly, I heard that America with its suck up press is 70% uninterested in the WMD fraud, but in England, where the press is reporting the issue its only 40%. We are the media which means that Americans aren't very much.

The British folks stand on Honor above all else... they hate a politian who lies to them. If they smell a rat they become like a terrier and won't rest till they expose it or prove it true... something about honor that seems lost on this side of the ocean.

 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: HJD1
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Interestingly, I heard that America with its suck up press is 70% uninterested in the WMD fraud, but in England, where the press is reporting the issue its only 40%. We are the media which means that Americans aren't very much.

The British folks stand on Honor above all else... they hate a politian who lies to them. If they smell a rat they become like a terrier and won't rest till they expose it or prove it true... something about honor that seems lost on this side of the ocean.

Which is why you have seen NO calls for investigations here right?
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: HJD1
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Interestingly, I heard that America with its suck up press is 70% uninterested in the WMD fraud, but in England, where the press is reporting the issue its only 40%. We are the media which means that Americans aren't very much.

The British folks stand on Honor above all else... they hate a politian who lies to them. If they smell a rat they become like a terrier and won't rest till they expose it or prove it true... something about honor that seems lost on this side of the ocean.

Which is why you have seen NO calls for investigations here right?

I hear much... from few... when I hear much from many I'll expect a review.

 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
it's been everywhere for weeks here....

best news the Dems have had in years

The many are the ones in control of the Committees... their honor is to the party first... truth second.. if at all... same for the democrats. Party, Self, Family, Country.

 

sandorski

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Alistar has been on a BBC bash for a few months. Those BBC Commies dared to not show the Iraq conflict in a good light at all times, bastards!
 

Alistar7

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Senators: More Time Needed to Judge Iraq WMD

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. intelligence analysts who testified at a closed Senate Intelligence Committee hearing on Thursday stood by their basic prewar assessment that Iraq (news - web sites) had weapons of mass destruction, two attendees said.

Sen. Evan Bayh (news, bio, voting record), an Indiana Democrat, said there was "nothing that changes the bottom line" of prewar assessments that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and the capacity to create "voluminous quantities" of such weapons.


He and other Democrats who attended the hearing said either they could not make judgments about whether the Republican administration hyped the intelligence or they did not believe outright deceit had occurred.


Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts, a Kansas Republican, said no intelligence analysts have told the panel the administration pressured them to make a stronger case on the weapons assessment than was warranted.


"If there is anyone in the intelligence community -- former, current -- that thinks that their analytical product in any way was manipulated or coerced or intimidated, please come forward. We will keep it confidential. But we have yet to hear from the first one," Roberts told reporters.

 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Senators: More Time Needed to Judge Iraq WMD

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. intelligence analysts who testified at a closed Senate Intelligence Committee hearing on Thursday stood by their basic prewar assessment that Iraq (news - web sites) had weapons of mass destruction, two attendees said.

Sen. Evan Bayh (news, bio, voting record), an Indiana Democrat, said there was "nothing that changes the bottom line" of prewar assessments that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and the capacity to create "voluminous quantities" of such weapons.


He and other Democrats who attended the hearing said either they could not make judgments about whether the Republican administration hyped the intelligence or they did not believe outright deceit had occurred.


Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts, a Kansas Republican, said no intelligence analysts have told the panel the administration pressured them to make a stronger case on the weapons assessment than was warranted.


"If there is anyone in the intelligence community -- former, current -- that thinks that their analytical product in any way was manipulated or coerced or intimidated, please come forward. We will keep it confidential. But we have yet to hear from the first one," Roberts told reporters.


"The attendees said" Closed hearings... right... Spin the top as slow or as rapidly as they may it will fall when the friction of the many demand truth.
 

Lynx516

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1) Can I say Alistar7 you are quoting a source that is 5 yes FIVE years old. It refers to a story written in 1998! How the hell do you think that this is relevent to 2003?

2)Yes the BBC is owned by the public. However it is independant of the government and is the only publicly owned TV station in the world to be so.

3) If you actuall knew anything about the BBC and UK politics that if the BBC says anything that the Governemt doesnt like (whcih is quite often with this current government) the government imeadiatly accuses the BBC of Bias. It is a well know tactic to make the BBC appolagise for telling the truth however now adays it isnt working.

4) If you think the BBC was biased towards the US in the Iraqi war I can see why the BBC has reason to be. Their Foreign affairs correspondant John Simpson was bombed by US plans while in a covoy of FRIENDLY TROOPS!! Killing his translator who had voluntered to go with him.
 

Haircut

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Holy Crap there is a lot of disinformation is this thread.

Firstly, the ITC is a regulator for commercial television stations in the UK. As the BBC is not commercially funded it does not come under the juristiction of the ITC.

Also, there were several complaints against Fox to the ITC, thus the reason they investigated it. The 400 complaints about the BBC were directed to the BBC themselves.
The ITC receives comlpaints all the time, they investigate them and then decide the result.

I don't know where Alistar7's ludicrous notion that Fox news is now banned in Britain came from. If he had bothered the check out the facts then he would see the the ITC dismissed all complaints about biased war broadcasting.
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Lastly I would like to close my post with this article.
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Moonbeam

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