BB10 delayed until 2013-update:RIM and MS alliance?

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R.I.P. R.I.M.

EDIT: Why in the world does this board make two words in all caps sentence case??
 
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Not the kind of news to inspire confidence in their ability to come out of the tailspin in which they've found themselves, but if they're taking some time to ensure that they'll have a product worth buying, it would be a lot better than pushing out something half-finished.
 
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Mopetar said:
Not the kind of news to inspire confidence in their ability to come out of the tailspin in which they've found themselves, but if they're taking some time to ensure that they'll have a product worth buying, it would be a lot better than pushing out something half-finished.
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If I'm not mistaken they started working on BB10 back in 2010 and the Playbook contains elements of it. How it will take so long to get it working well on a smartphone is kind of mindblowing for a company whose entire future is based on it.

Even if it does somehow manage to impress, it's going to be an impossible uphill battle against the even more polished versions of iOS, Android and WP8 that will be out by then.
 
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Disappointing. I am a believer in BB10, but now with the delay, I'm not sure that this is not going to end like WebOS.
 
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Wow, how fast that company imploded.

They won't have the cash to last.
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They're still profitable (unless that's changed within the last quarter) so they'll be around for a while now. Whether or not they'll remain relevant is another question. Eventually some investor will decide to split them up and sell off some of the different parts. That seems like the most likely outcome.
 
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bearxor

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I still think they'll last that long anyways and they're still relevant in the enterprise space. Let's just hope it's really early 2013. We're only talking 6-9 months here.
 
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Mopetar said:
They're still profitable (unless that's changed within the last quarter) so they'll be around for a while now. Whether or not they'll remain relevant is another question. Eventually some investor will decide to split them up and sell off some of the different parts. That seems like the most likely outcome.
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/rim-delays-blackberry-launch-sales-001816394.html


It has. I don't think the company is going anywhere soon, but it does look terminal. This is looking more and more like Palm and WebOS, minus me being sad to see to see them go.

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Excluding special items, the loss came in at $192 million, or 37 cents a share, for the first quarter ended on June 2. Revenue declined 43 percent to $2.81 billion.

Analysts on average expected a loss of 7 cents a share on revenue of $3.07 billion, according to an informal Reuters poll.

For the year-earlier quarter, RIM reported a profit of $695 million, or $1.33 a share, on sales of $4.91 billion.

The company said it had shipped 7.8 million BlackBerry smartphones in the last quarter, only about half of the more than 14 million of two quarters ago. Until now, it had shipped more than 10
million devices every quarter since late in 2009.
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Yikes.
 
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podspi said:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/rim-delays-blackberry-launch-sales-001816394.html


It has. I don't think the company is going anywhere soon, but it does look terminal. This is looking more and more like Palm and WebOS, minus me being sad to see to see them go.

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Yikes.
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Its not just the monetary losses. Its also that they have absolutely nothing to compete with the Android/iOS smartphones from 2011, let alone 2012 and 2013. Their entire customer base is dropping Blackberries as their contracts end. Their devices don't sell and carriers/B&M stores have shipped back unsold inventory by the truckload.
 
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MrX8503

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2013? Lol wow. Someone tell the CEOs at RIM that the smartphone train came in 2007 and that they're gonna miss it by six years!
 
vshah

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they should switch to android and focus on their hardware and enterprise strengths.
 
Red Storm

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It would be better for them to completely avoid the consumer smartphone market rather than go through embarrassment after embarrassment.
 
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Red Storm said:
It would be better for them to completely avoid the consumer smartphone market rather than go through embarrassment after embarrassment.
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one of googles keynote speakers made a good point yesterday: people increasingly want the same technology at work and home, relying on enterprise strengths isn't good enough.
 
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vshah said:
one of googles keynote speakers made a good point yesterday: people increasingly want the same technology at work and home, relying on enterprise strengths isn't good enough.
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I know, they're screwed either way. I don't know a single person that's considered getting a new blackberry, and I just surveyed more than 150 people at work about what phone they would like to get.
 
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