Bay Area people, Why is SF such a great place to live?

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Dualist

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Business growth, tourist attractions, vacation spots, etc. Even though I haven't been there before, I think SF is a great place to be.
 
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Originally posted by: Dualist
Business growth, tourist attractions, vacation spots, etc. Even though I haven't been there before, I think SF is a great place to be.

how would tourist attractions and vacations spots make it a good place to live? those things imply that it would be a good place to visit
 

beer

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Originally posted by: deejayshakur
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
parking sucks cuz its 5 minutes for a quarter, and some ridiculous parking regulations, like no parking from 3pm-6pm, or 4pm-7pm...wtf is up with that?!?

gas is also $4/gallon for premium in a lot of places here.

maybe people should consider walking more in the nation's #1 city for walking. it's no wonder that i rarely see fat people in the city. couldn't say that about the LA folks, nope.

Gas prices suck. I fill up in south bay on the days I drive to work. I agree SF has insane gas prices. But then again, the city is seven miles across. You could drive from one end to the other and back three or four times and use one gallon of gas.

 

Mr Pickles

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: aphex
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: her209
What about it do you hate?

1. expensive as all hell (even more so than LA IMO)
2. bad weather
3. difficult to have a car (parking sucks everywhere and most places charge $150-200 for a parking spot).
4. hard to find housing with a back yard

the list goes on and on

You need to move to FL :)

I really would love to if I could find employment out there ;)

Miami looks likes a great city

Miami is old.. the nicer places are retro, which can be good only sometimes yet they are expensive as all and the older places are just bad places to live. Think about a big city in 90 degree sweltering heat. Imagine the garbage and the smell of the hot water seeping out of the bottom of trash cans into the gutters that you need to hop across to get to your car. South beach is interesting for a little bit, and that's where you can see some really artsy retro hotels, but the beaches aren't exactly pristine and although you can catch bewbies and thongs all day there is a drawback to that - leathery old women.

Try Tampa. I live in St. Pete, just outside of Tampa and we get just as good of weather (if not better) as Miami with a much nicer atmosphere. Plenty of places to party and it's not rediculously crowded. You could either use the transit system or you'll always have a car and a place to park. Business looks good although I can't say much for the economy as I'm not in the market to buy a house. All I know is I live in a 1200 square foot 3,2 house w/double sized lot with my gf and only pay 800 total for rent. Beat that!

I just spent 5 days doing work in SF, did all the scenic stuff like the bridge, the wharf, that curvy road, chinatown (tried the fish legs in a clay pot!), and actually spent one night hanging out at Rye that beer was talking about. I know those are just some random touristy things but the city was really attractive. I could definately see myself living there for a few years.
 

habib89

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: habib89
ooh.. so you're from LA.. yeah, go back, we don't want you here... LA is a freakin hell hole.. everyone down there is fake and pretentious... ugh.. i guess if you like ridiculously hot weather, then yeah, the perfect blue skys with high 60's to low 70's would be "bad weather"... go back to LA and breathe in your smog

way to generalize there buddy. Forgot that Oakland was the place to be...

oh yeah, i forgot that i have oakland as my city of residence now... i just moved here 6 months ago... *sigh*... i was just messin with you anyway.. wether you like SF or not is very low on my priority list...

although LA does have lots of smog... but it also has disneyland..
 

beer

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I heard Oakland has some nice parts, but I've never actually been there. I've only crossed the bridge four times in seven months
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: her209
What about it do you hate?

1. expensive as all hell (even more so than LA IMO)
2. bad weather
3. difficult to have a car (parking sucks everywhere and most places charge $150-200 for a parking spot).
4. hard to find housing with a back yard

the list goes on and on

Bad weather. You consider good temperatures year-round to be "bad"?

So basically your complaint is that it doesn't have miles and miles of cheap, open space, and it doesn't scorch you in the summer and freeze you in the winter. Maybe you should live in Alaska, or Vegas.

/edit: You're from LA? nm, clearly you have no taste:p
 
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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: her209
What about it do you hate?

1. expensive as all hell (even more so than LA IMO)
2. bad weather
3. difficult to have a car (parking sucks everywhere and most places charge $150-200 for a parking spot).
4. hard to find housing with a back yard

the list goes on and on

Bad weather. You consider good temperatures year-round to be "bad"?

So basically your complaint is that it doesn't have miles and miles of cheap, open space, and it doesn't scorch you in the summer and freeze you in the winter. Maybe you should live in Alaska, or Vegas.

not looking for a desert (per se) but SF is a very cramped city. And where did I say cheap? LA isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but its more affordable. Also, you don't "freeze" in the winter in any part of Southern CA.

BTW, i'm trying very hard to get a job in Vegas. Its my favorite city ;)
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
not looking for a desert (per se) but SF is a very cramped city. And where did I say cheap? LA isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but its more affordable. Also, you don't "freeze" in the winter in any part of Southern CA.

BTW, i'm trying very hard to get a job in Vegas. Its my favorite city ;)

Well, it certainly is cramped, not denying that. As for affordable, there's a whole world full of affordable, so you have to look at costs, potential earnings, and quality of life. I couldn't live in LA: earnings to cost isn't too bad, but I'd hate every second of it. Same for Vegas, even though it's even better in terms of earnings to cost. Seattle's actually not really great, though quality of life is better for me than Vegas or LA, but I have a good job and I'm going to grad school, so for now that's where I am.

Clearly we have different standards in cities.
 
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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
not looking for a desert (per se) but SF is a very cramped city. And where did I say cheap? LA isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but its more affordable. Also, you don't "freeze" in the winter in any part of Southern CA.

BTW, i'm trying very hard to get a job in Vegas. Its my favorite city ;)

Well, it certainly is cramped, not denying that. As for affordable, there's a whole world full of affordable, so you have to look at costs, potential earnings, and quality of life. I couldn't live in LA: earnings to cost isn't too bad, but I'd hate every second of it. Same for Vegas, even though it's even better in terms of earnings to cost. Seattle's actually not really great, though quality of life is better for me than Vegas or LA, but I have a good job and I'm going to grad school, so for now that's where I am.

Clearly we have different standards in cities.

Here is the thing i love about vegas: the pay for my job is 30%+ better there than anywhere else. I'm not exaggerating. Literally, over 30% higher pay for the EXACT SAME position.

That combined with the fact that I can get a nice 2000 sq ft house for 300k-400k (depending on the house of course) makes it a good choice.
 

zoiks

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
not looking for a desert (per se) but SF is a very cramped city. And where did I say cheap? LA isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but its more affordable. Also, you don't "freeze" in the winter in any part of Southern CA.

BTW, i'm trying very hard to get a job in Vegas. Its my favorite city ;)

Well, it certainly is cramped, not denying that. As for affordable, there's a whole world full of affordable, so you have to look at costs, potential earnings, and quality of life. I couldn't live in LA: earnings to cost isn't too bad, but I'd hate every second of it. Same for Vegas, even though it's even better in terms of earnings to cost. Seattle's actually not really great, though quality of life is better for me than Vegas or LA, but I have a good job and I'm going to grad school, so for now that's where I am.

Clearly we have different standards in cities.

Here is the thing i love about vegas: the pay for my job is 30%+ better there than anywhere else. I'm not exaggerating. Literally, over 30% higher pay for the EXACT SAME position.

That combined with the fact that I can get a nice 2000 sq ft house for 300k-400k (depending on the house of course) makes it a good choice.

Yeah. And bear the 110 deg weather with dusty air.
No thanks. I'll take SF over any city in the US.
 
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Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
not looking for a desert (per se) but SF is a very cramped city. And where did I say cheap? LA isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but its more affordable. Also, you don't "freeze" in the winter in any part of Southern CA.

BTW, i'm trying very hard to get a job in Vegas. Its my favorite city ;)

Well, it certainly is cramped, not denying that. As for affordable, there's a whole world full of affordable, so you have to look at costs, potential earnings, and quality of life. I couldn't live in LA: earnings to cost isn't too bad, but I'd hate every second of it. Same for Vegas, even though it's even better in terms of earnings to cost. Seattle's actually not really great, though quality of life is better for me than Vegas or LA, but I have a good job and I'm going to grad school, so for now that's where I am.

Clearly we have different standards in cities.

Here is the thing i love about vegas: the pay for my job is 30%+ better there than anywhere else. I'm not exaggerating. Literally, over 30% higher pay for the EXACT SAME position.

That combined with the fact that I can get a nice 2000 sq ft house for 300k-400k (depending on the house of course) makes it a good choice.

Yeah. And bear the 110 deg weather with dusty air.
No thanks. I'll take SF over any city in the US.

Its not like I (or most others) work outside. Air conditioned home to air conditioned car to air conditioned office.

Of course, I dont mind 110 degree heat either so its largely based on what the individual can tolerate.
 

deejayshakur

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Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
not looking for a desert (per se) but SF is a very cramped city. And where did I say cheap? LA isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but its more affordable. Also, you don't "freeze" in the winter in any part of Southern CA.

BTW, i'm trying very hard to get a job in Vegas. Its my favorite city ;)

Well, it certainly is cramped, not denying that. As for affordable, there's a whole world full of affordable, so you have to look at costs, potential earnings, and quality of life. I couldn't live in LA: earnings to cost isn't too bad, but I'd hate every second of it. Same for Vegas, even though it's even better in terms of earnings to cost. Seattle's actually not really great, though quality of life is better for me than Vegas or LA, but I have a good job and I'm going to grad school, so for now that's where I am.

Clearly we have different standards in cities.

Here is the thing i love about vegas: the pay for my job is 30%+ better there than anywhere else. I'm not exaggerating. Literally, over 30% higher pay for the EXACT SAME position.

That combined with the fact that I can get a nice 2000 sq ft house for 300k-400k (depending on the house of course) makes it a good choice.

Yeah. And bear the 110 deg weather with dusty air.
No thanks. I'll take SF over any city in the US.

what? just get in your car, close all the windows and crank up the A/C!

if you're going to be an attorney, it basically comes down to where you want your money to go. your $300-400k house will likely not appreciate very much vs. a $800k-1mil fixer in SF that will hold its value and be worth 10-15% more in the coming years. granted, this housing bubble's supposed to burst any minute now...but that's another topic. housing in the bay area will always be in demand, which in turn keeps the prices strong. there's a reason that your 2000 sq ft house only costs $400k but as long as you're happy with that, i'm happy for you. i wouldn't spend my hard-earned money on a house in an area i hate either.
 

MasterOfKtulu109

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San Francisco is fun to visit, but I wouldn't choose to live there. If I had a job there, then that's something else. But why would I choose to live in a place with awful traffic and with no hopes of ever being able to afford a house? Sure there are beaches, but the water is ice cold all year.
 

Audiotherapy

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bottom line is if you are trendy, artsy, liberal, cultured, and a yuppie, then SF is the place to be.
i like the fact that they always get headliner DJ's in clubs. and more females(and quality wise) than man jose.
food is good but sometimes i get upset stomach from some of those chinatown places..
i love to just walk around SF, great scenery. but parking is a bitch, and so is the cost of living there.
 
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Originally posted by: deejayshakur
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
not looking for a desert (per se) but SF is a very cramped city. And where did I say cheap? LA isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but its more affordable. Also, you don't "freeze" in the winter in any part of Southern CA.

BTW, i'm trying very hard to get a job in Vegas. Its my favorite city ;)

Well, it certainly is cramped, not denying that. As for affordable, there's a whole world full of affordable, so you have to look at costs, potential earnings, and quality of life. I couldn't live in LA: earnings to cost isn't too bad, but I'd hate every second of it. Same for Vegas, even though it's even better in terms of earnings to cost. Seattle's actually not really great, though quality of life is better for me than Vegas or LA, but I have a good job and I'm going to grad school, so for now that's where I am.

Clearly we have different standards in cities.

Here is the thing i love about vegas: the pay for my job is 30%+ better there than anywhere else. I'm not exaggerating. Literally, over 30% higher pay for the EXACT SAME position.

That combined with the fact that I can get a nice 2000 sq ft house for 300k-400k (depending on the house of course) makes it a good choice.

Yeah. And bear the 110 deg weather with dusty air.
No thanks. I'll take SF over any city in the US.

what? just get in your car, close all the windows and crank up the A/C!

if you're going to be an attorney, it basically comes down to where you want your money to go. your $300-400k house will likely not appreciate very much vs. a $800k-1mil fixer in SF that will hold its value and be worth 10-15% more in the coming years. granted, this housing bubble's supposed to burst any minute now...but that's another topic. housing in the bay area will always be in demand, which in turn keeps the prices strong. there's a reason that your 2000 sq ft house only costs $400k but as long as you're happy with that, i'm happy for you. i wouldn't spend my hard-earned money on a house in an area i hate either.

the problem is making the payments on a 800k house in order to allow it to appreciate. Personally, I wouldnt be able to do that for some time (the only way that house ownership is feasible for me in LA is because its split between me and 2 others).
 

beer

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another thing: as it turns out, east bay commuters don't...have a bridge anymore.

what. the fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
 

mrkun

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Originally posted by: beer
another thing: as it turns out, east bay commuters don't...have a bridge anymore.

what. the fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Umm... did the Oakland Bay Bridge just collapse or something?