Battlefield 4 Patch 2/13/2014 with Mantle improvements

[VulgarDisplay]

The fact that all these dev's at the conferences think the idea of Nvidia coming up with their own API as a horrible idea for the industry makes me not take that comment at face value. He clearly wants Mantle to succeed, and he is trying his best to show it in the best light possible and exaggerating a little in the process. If he truly believed what he said, he would support Nvidia doing the same.

I think nvidia coming up with their own would be fantastic. All we need are 3 api, amd's, nvidia, and Intel. There are 3 api's now. Just need some standards to be enforced like a minimum feature set, shader language, and possibly some standards to ease porting across api's.

This is something the industry needs to do for the sake of progress. DX is going to suffer from cpu bottlenecking more and more with each GPU generation. Mantle gains are going to increase as GPU speeds continue to blow past cpu speeds.

 

[96Firebird]

Just need some standards to be enforced like a minimum feature set, shader language, and possibly some standards to ease porting across api's.

So what you're saying is, we need DX. Libraries can do the rest.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

So what you're saying is, we need DX. Libraries can do the rest.

I do not think dx in its current form can stay viable for PC gaming much longer. It needs sweeping changes. Let the hardware vendors make their own lower level api's to run their own hardware. Get rid of as much abstraction as possible.

No idea why everyone is so in love with dx. If mantle has done one think it is to show that change is necessary to advance the gaming industry, and is going yo become increasingly necessary with each new GPU generation maintaining steady performance increases. I could see CPU's bottlenecking GPUs in some circumstances at 1600p once we hit 20nm (dual GPU especially). 10-15% increases on the cpu side arent going to cut it.

 

[3DVagabond]

I do not think dx in its current form can stay viable for PC gaming much longer. It needs sweeping changes. Let the hardware vendors make their own lower level api's to run their own hardware. Get rid of as much abstraction as possible.

No idea why everyone is so in love with dx. If mantle has done one think it is to show that change is necessary to advance the gaming industry, and is going yo become increasingly necessary with each new GPU generation maintaining steady performance increases. I could see CPU's bottlenecking GPUs in some circumstances at 1600p once we hit 20nm (dual GPU especially). 10-15% increases on the cpu side arent going to cut it.

^^^THIS^^^

As a consumer I see no good reason to be tied to one vendor for anything. That includes OS. DX ties us to Windows and Microsoft's best interests being served, not ours.