Battlefield 3 official performence/fps thread

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skipsneeky2

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i have a e8400@stock, a 9800gtx and 4GB of ram. i played the beta and metro ran fine with a mix of low and medium settings at 1280x960. averaged about 30-45fps depending on the area of the map. caspian border on the other hand was 10-25fps with everything set to low and there were a ton of framerate and audio stuttering.

would swapping the video card for something like a 560ti be enough to maintain a solid 30+fps on say medium without the audio/framerate stuttering on the larger maps or is my cpu just too old to play online smoothly?

i dont plan to build a new pc until ivy bridge but also dont want to waste money on a video card if it wont help any. maybe i should just get the xbox version. advice and feedback is greatly appreciated. tanks in advance.

I had a gtx560 non ti and it was held back so much by my oced e8200@ 3.2ghz i just returned it.

Get a quad core first then a gpu...what i'm doing in 2 weeks.

2500k is all the rage i had a system that a friend water damaged and even with your 9800gtx oced...the best it did was 1440x900 on low with the 2500k@ 4.3ghz.

Mind you the 9800gtx was a 512mb card:)
 

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im running this game on low 1440x900 on the machine in my signature and i'm averaging 5-40fps MAX. I'm probably going to get the $40 amd quad from microcenter and spend another $120 on ram and a mainboard. Should be a big improvement as my friend is playing on a 940 OC'd 1440x900 high and getting double my frames
 

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You need a good CPU for multiplayer in this game. You could give it a go if you can buy the card at a big box store that allows returns.

i would try this but the game purchase is holding me back since i cant return it.



I had a gtx560 non ti and it was held back so much by my oced e8200@ 3.2ghz i just returned it.

Get a quad core first then a gpu...what i'm doing in 2 weeks.

2500k is all the rage i had a system that a friend water damaged and even with your 9800gtx oced...the best it did was 1440x900 on low with the 2500k@ 4.3ghz.

Mind you the 9800gtx was a 512mb card:)


did you try the 560 and e8200 with battlefield 3 or was this a previous experience?
i wont be updating my cpu until ivy bridge so it's looking like the xbox version for me.


Anyone got a working q9650 sitting in the closet that they want to donate or sell at a low price? :(
 

GoStumpy

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Playing a bit of BF3 on my miniPC... Surprised it played at all!

Win7 32 bit
Intel Celeron G530 2.4GHz dual-core no HT
3GB Ram (limit of 32bit duh)
GeForce GT220 1GB

Managed 39FPS at 1280x800 low details

Amazing part is, its the CPU holding me back, not the lowly GT220!

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On low the game still looks pretty damn good too. Since the resolution is higher than consoles running low.

BF3 runs great on low with mobile llano. I wonder how bad E-350 will bottleneck it heh
 

skipsneeky2

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i would try this but the game purchase is holding me back since i cant return it.






did you try the 560 and e8200 with battlefield 3 or was this a previous experience?
i wont be updating my cpu until ivy bridge so it's looking like the xbox version for me.


Anyone got a working q9650 sitting in the closet that they want to donate or sell at a low price? :(

I tried the gtx560 with the e8200@ 3.2ghz in BF3 and it was held back very much any about any resolution so got my money back on the card this week

Will most likely go for a gtx570 with a 1090t or 2500k depending on budget in about 2 weeks on the new build.

Find myself on the lower populated servers a lot to make due with this rig as it doesn't bog down as much as it would on a 64 player:thumbsup:
 

toyota

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skipsneeky2, please get the 2500k and be done with it. there is no point in getting the slower and higher power consuming 1090t if you are getting mobo,ram and cpu.
 

DietDrThunder

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OK, I've been out of the video card realm for quite some time. I'm looking for the
a video card for playing BF3 that will work well with my current system. Here is
my current system:

NZXT M59 - 001BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro M700 RS-700-AMBA-D3 700W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

MSI 890GXM-G65 AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard with Onboard Video - ATI Radeon HD 4290

AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core (overclocked to 3.2 GHz)

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

OCZ Vertex Series OCZSSD2-1VTX60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal SSD - boot drive

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" - data drive

ASUS 24X DVD Burner

Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Keyboard

Logitech G500 10 Buttons Dual-mode Scroll Wheel USB Wired Laser 5700 dpi Gaming Mouse

SAMSUNG P2770FH ToC Rose Black 27" 1ms Full HD HDMI LCD Monitor (1920x1080)

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

From looking at the MSI 890GXM-G65 manual, it appears the Onboard Video (Radeon HD
4290) has the ability to Crossfire with a video card in the 1st PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot.

Can you Crossfire the Onboard video with a video card with a different video chipset?

What would be the best video card In the $180 to $230 price range that would match up
nicely with my current system and play BF3 at full 1920x1080 resolution?
 
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XNice

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Has there been a noticable difference going from 4cores to 6cores if you kept the speeds the same?
 
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Guovssohas

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Win7 64bit
AMD Phenom II 965be stock
XFX 6870 1gb dual fan stock
4gb ram

I'm getting 65fps average in Caspian Border 64player Conquest, 71fps in both Seine Crossing and Firestorm 64player conquest. 45fps at lowest on all three maps. 1920*1080

Obviously i've turned down the settings, textures, terrain and terrain something(don't remember what it was called) on High, all others on Medium and no AA at all. And i still think it looks really good, very happy with how smooth it plays. :)
 

GoStumpy

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Cepak, you have a pretty nice system there. I wouldn't be thinking about crossfire your onboard video, that is just pointless. When you get a graphics card with 350hp, do you want to bother adding a 15hp lawnmower for the added power it may give?

Anyhow, with a Thuban 1055T chip you're pretty much set for a high-end graphics card. Something like a GTX570 wouldn't be overkill. However I do think it may be out of your price range.

Perhaps a GTX560ti?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130610

Or a HD6950?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150523
 

Termie

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Cepak, you have a pretty nice system there. I wouldn't be thinking about crossfire your onboard video, that is just pointless. When you get a graphics card with 350hp, do you want to bother adding a 15hp lawnmower for the added power it may give?

Anyhow, with a Thuban 1055T chip you're pretty much set for a high-end graphics card. Something like a GTX570 wouldn't be overkill. However I do think it may be out of your price range.

Perhaps a GTX560ti?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130610

Or a HD6950?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150523

If he can stretch his buget a bit, the 2GB version of the HD6950 is the better long-term investment:

At Newegg for $240AR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102945

At Superbiiz for $232AR/code(iheartgames)/shipping: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-H6950_2
 
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Wouldn't bother upgrading now, honestly you will hate yourself when next gen hits so soon.

You can have 6970 performance at ridiculously low power use, for cheap.
 

Termie

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Wouldn't bother upgrading now, honestly you will hate yourself when next gen hits so soon.

You can have 6970 performance at ridiculously low power use, for cheap.

That depends if he wants to wait at least two months to play BF3. He doesn't have a video card currently.

I agree the cards >$200 aren't a great investment right now. But if he wants to play games between now and January, he needs a card. And for that purpose, the HD6870 for $140AR/FS is absolutely the best deal going: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131378.

Bar none.
 

GoStumpy

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I've definitely proven that a 2.4ghz dual-core without HT can't get playable framerates at 1680x1050 resolution! Or any resolution, really...

GeForce GT220 or GT240 made no difference, CPU was completely the bottleneck.

Guess I'll leave this machine for BF:BC2 duty :)
 

DietDrThunder

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That depends if he wants to wait at least two months to play BF3. He doesn't have a video card currently.

I agree the cards >$200 aren't a great investment right now. But if he wants to play games between now and January, he needs a card. And for that purpose, the HD6870 for $140AR/FS is absolutely the best deal going: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131378.

Bar none.

Thanks guys for the input. I built 3 identical systems (motherboard / Cpu combos were $225 after rebates) so my
Buddies could come over and game without them having to haul their rigs. We were mainly playing
BzFlag, Starcraft, and BF 1942, so having a high end graphics card wasn't necessary until now. I guess
I'll buy decient video card for one system and update the other 2 in a couple of months.
 
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I tried the gtx560 with the e8200@ 3.2ghz in BF3 and it was held back very much any about any resolution so got my money back on the card this week

Will most likely go for a gtx570 with a 1090t or 2500k depending on budget in about 2 weeks on the new build.

Find myself on the lower populated servers a lot to make due with this rig as it doesn't bog down as much as it would on a 64 player:thumbsup:


Don't get a 1090t... go with the 2500k if anything... the 1090t will not perform better than my rig using the AMD Phenom II 965 3.4GHz for gaming when paired with the GTX 570... everything is running fine don't get me wrong... but I know for sure if I have a 2500k in my rig I can squeeze out more FPS using my GTX 570...
 

Termie

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Got some interesting graphs for you data hounds. These graphs are at 1920x1200, all ultra, except high textures and no MSAA, on a 64-man server with about 45-50 players. The CPU has HT shut off, but that's mostly due to reviews that said it slowed things down in single player. Truth is, I think it helps in multiplayer, and I plan on turning it back on.

(1) The settings I usually play at - GPUs at stock, vsync on:

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Note that the CPU and GPUs are pretty well matched, neither are fully loaded at any point, and GPU temps are low.

(2) Now, say I want to open it up and let her loose, GPUs overclocked, vsync off. Here's what I get:

cpumaxing.jpg


Note that the fps is fluctuating a bit, mostly between 50 and 80, and it looks like it might have hit 45 a few times (I didn't actually examine that at the time I clipped this). Take a look at the CPU. It's bouncing off the limit, more so than the GPUs. I'm CPU-limited here - the GPUs rarely hit 99%.

(3) Finally, a look at memory use:

themewarning.jpg


I've posted about vram and system ram use before, but take a look at what happened here. My vram is holding steady at 1.8GB, or 900MB per card. I have that under control since I'm not using MSAA or ultra textures. But I got the dreaded Windows theme error. Why? Well, take a look at the right side where you can see system memory use. It's gone out of control. Over the gaming session it went from 4GB used to 6GB used. And yet when I checked the task manager, BF3 was only using 1.25GB. I think there's some kind of memory leak that's tripping the Windows theme error - fooling W7 into thinking VRAM is running out. I'm no expert on this, so I'd love to hear others' opinions. [EDIT: apparently this is a Crossfire/SLI problem, not a BF3 problem, so those of you with a single card can just ignore this issue.]

Anyway, food for thought. As you can see, this game craves CPU power in multiplayer. It doesn't affect me too much, as I typically run with vsync to limit tearing and reduce heat/power. But like I said, I'm going to do some testing with HT on - I have a feeling it will give my CPU some breathing room...
 
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Skurge

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Got some interesting graphs for you data hounds. These graphs are at 1920x1200, all ultra, except high textures and no MSAA, on a 64-man server without about 45-50 players. The CPU has HT shut off, but that's mostly due to reviews that said it slowed things down in single player. Truth is, I think it helps in multiplayer, and I plan on turning it back on.

(1) The settings I usually play at - GPUs at stock, vsync on:

loadwohtat725.png


Note that the CPU and GPUs are pretty well matched, neither are fully loaded at any point, and GPU temps are low.

(2) Now, say I want to open it up and let her loose, GPUs overclocked, vsync off. Here's what I get:

cpumaxing.jpg


Note that the fps is fluctuating a bit, mostly between 50 and 80, and it looks like it might have hit 45 a few times (I didn't actually examine that at the time I clipped this). Take a look at the CPU. It's bouncing off the limit, more so than the GPUs. I'm CPU-limited here - the GPUs rarely hit 99%.

(3) Finally, a look at memory use:

themewarning.jpg


I've posted about vram and system ram use before, but take a look at what happened here. My vram is holding steady at 1.8GB, or 900MB per card. I have that under control since I'm not using MSAA or ultra textures. But I got the dreaded Windows theme error. Why? Well, take a look at the right side where you can see system memory use. It's gone out of control. Over the gaming session it went from 4GB used to 6GB used. And yet when I checked the task manager, BF3 was only using 1.25GB. I think there's some kind of memory leak that's tripping the Windows theme error - fooling W7 into thinking VRAM is running out. I'm no expert on this, so I'd love to hear others' opinions.

Anyway, food for thought. As you can see, this game craves CPU power in multiplayer. It doesn't affect me too much, as I typically run with vsync to limit tearing and reduce heat/power. But like I said, I'm going to do some testing with HT on - I have a feeling it will give my CPU some breathing room...

Thanks for that. It's still shocking that no site has done MP CPU benchmarks yet.
 
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My old Q9400 at stock was unplayable in 64MP. Crap fps and occasional stutters. OC to 3.6ghz it ran fine. Its tough to do a MP bench as its so variable, any site needs to do multiple runs through the same map and offer std dev or error bars on their FPS result.

BF3 does indeed scale with 6 cores over 4, so i guess HT should be beneficial in MP.
 

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With an e8500 @ 4GHz, 6870 I'm getting 40-45 fps at 1650x900 on low/medium. Cant wait to upgrade when the next gen stuff
comes out.
 

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With an e8500 @ 4GHz, 6870 I'm getting 40-45 fps at 1650x900 on low/medium. Cant wait to upgrade when the next gen stuff
comes out.

That's weird, i have a 6870 1gb and i get 65fps average in Caspian Border 64player CQ on High/medium, but without any AA. This is at 1080p. On other maps i get over 70fps average, 64player.
 

Termie

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Hey Termie, great info, thanks a lot.

Happy to share, guys! If anyone would like to request I do similar tests on a single GPU to show CPU requirements, let me know. I can say, however, that when I had a single GPU running, it was pegged to the 99% limit just about the entire time, so I think I was more GPU limited then.

With an e8500 @ 4GHz, 6870 I'm getting 40-45 fps at 1650x900 on low/medium. Cant wait to upgrade when the next gen stuff
comes out.

You'd get about 55fps all high on a quad. I got 43fps all high/1920x1200 before I went crossfire. Your figure does not surprise me at all - I was cpu-limited to 42fps in BC2 on my e8400.

That's weird, i have a 6870 1gb and i get 65fps average in Caspian Border 64player CQ on High/medium, but without any AA. This is at 1080p. On other maps i get over 70fps average, 64player.

What CPU? That's the question at issue here.