Battlefield 3 Mod - Remove Blue Tint = Permaban

Bateluer

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How dare you modify a game you paid for. You're supposed to enjoy the games provided to you, and buy the new one in 8 months.
 

Zenoth

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Sad indeed, they have strange priorities, but I'm not surprised.

I'm glad I never bought BF3 (nor even played at all). For me the Battlefield craze stopped when I finally got bored of BF2 (although I did enjoy BF2 for quite a while). Just out of curiosity, was there any similar seemingly benign modifications that ever existed for Battlefield 2 which would also result in a ban? Or is that some sort of a new policy (or idiocy I'd rather call it) for BF3 only?

Anyway, I liked the comparisons, why forcing such an obvious blue tint in the first place? The modified version on the comparisons look more natural and colorful, or simply looks better. Bah, anyhow they still sell their games so they don't care, Battlefield 4 will still sell and we all know it.
 
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maniacalpha1-1

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How dare you modify a game you paid for. You're supposed to enjoy the games provided to you, and buy the new one in 8 months.

The underlying issue here is that many people are speaking out against many of BF3's design decisions...today, it just happens to be a focus on the tint/graphics, and they do this instead of admitting that a lot of people don't like blue tint.

It's a good thing I'm enjoying Planetside 2, which while it doesn't undo every bad decision of BF3 (you gotta cater to the masses in SOME way), it strikes a great balance.

Sad indeed, they have strange priorities, but I'm not surprised.

I'm glad I never bought BF3 (nor even played at all). For me the Battlefield craze stopped when I finally got bored of BF2 (although I did enjoy BF2 for quite a while). Just out of curiosity, was there any similar seemingly benign modifications that ever existed for Battlefield 2 which would also result in a ban? Or is that some sort of a new policy (or idiocy I'd rather call it) for BF3 only?

BF2 had mod tools I think...I don't know if 2142 did but certainly by BC2, DICE was backtracking and claiming that "modding is a declining trend".
 

Stringjam

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LOL at people complaining about color grading.......as if the point of any form of visual art (cinema, games, painting, whatever) is even remotely about creating realistic color representation.

Yeah....that's why I didn't like "300," because the colors weren't realistic. :whiste:
 

darkewaffle

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I didn't watch the whole video but I prefer it with the tint from the first couple examples, it fits with the style of the game more.

And of course you get banned for using a mod in online multiplayer. Despite it being relatively innocent, chances are Punkbuster can't tell that and it only detects that the normal operation of the game is being interfered with.
 

BlitzPuppet

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LOL at people complaining about color grading.......as if the point of any form of visual art (cinema, games, painting, whatever) is even remotely about creating realistic color representation.

Yeah....that's why I didn't like "300," because the colors weren't realistic. :whiste:

Wow, your lack of common sense/over abundance of ignorance is absolutely amazing. Kudos to anyone with the amount of patience required to being stuck with you

The game looks like you are wrapping a blue tinted saran wrap over your eyes...

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9194/dfghfgh.png

This has absolutely nothing to do with realism, and more to do with the fact that you can't tell what the hell anything is. Everything is washed out, glarey, and overly BLUE. Remove the tint and you see the real deal...the graphics aren't that super awesome.

DICE: "2143 is in the works with uber awesome graphics!!!!"
http://i.imgur.com/HNt6F.jpg
 
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The underlying issue here is that many people are speaking out against many of BF3's design decisions...today, it just happens to be a focus on the tint/graphics, and they do this instead of admitting that a lot of people don't like blue tint.

It's a good thing I'm enjoying Planetside 2, which while it doesn't undo every bad decision of BF3 (you gotta cater to the masses in SOME way), it strikes a great balance.



BF2 had mod tools I think...I don't know if 2142 did but certainly by BC2, DICE was backtracking and claiming that "modding is a declining trend".


BF2 definitely had mod tools. 2142 had mods too.

And yeah, its stupid that fixing the color gets you banned. The game has enough problems already.
 

Regs

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Modern Warfare is the same as well. Everything looks washed out. BF3 is a little pretentious. I get dizzy playing that game with the shakey cam, and 20 degree viewing angle.
 

clok1966

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fixing the color is not the reason for the bans.. but if you want to believe that.. no amount of reasoning will change your mind.. a simple color change is fine.. but to many take advantage and mod it farther to enhance spotting ability.. its the old problem, you let one guy change it so it looks differnt but doesnt thurt gameplay, somebody else will fook with it and twist it so they have an advantage.. Hence.. you cant allow any of it.. people on the internet cant detirmin fair boundries so the game companies have to. if the game was 100% hacked nobody would play. Of course since nobody looks at anything with realistic eyes on the net.. SCREW DICE!
 

Maximilian

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Wow that looks much better without the color grading! They ban you for that stuff? Fuck EA...
 

Ferzerp

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This attempt at manufactured outrage is a little silly.

It's hard to tell the difference between making things less blue, and making things look like this when all you can see is that there has been a hook in to the rendering engine, and so, all of it has to be not allowed:

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Stringjam

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Wow, your lack of common sense/over abundance of ignorance is absolutely amazing. Kudos to anyone with the amount of patience required to being stuck with you

http://i.imgur.com/HNt6F.jpg

Ignorance about what, specifically?

My comment was about how realistic color representation is not the goal of any visual art (aside from those that explicitly set out to be).

You either have poor reading comprehension or you're just trolling. Judging by your rather personal remarks in the last line, I'm guessing the latter.

There's no need to throw around personal insults just because you don't share the same opinion.
 

Dumac

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Obviously a modification isn't going to be allowed on a competitive multiplayer game. It is just how it goes.
 

sigurros81

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fixing the color is not the reason for the bans.. but if you want to believe that.. no amount of reasoning will change your mind.. a simple color change is fine.. but to many take advantage and mod it farther to enhance spotting ability.. its the old problem, you let one guy change it so it looks differnt but doesnt thurt gameplay, somebody else will fook with it and twist it so they have an advantage.. Hence.. you cant allow any of it.. people on the internet cant detirmin fair boundries so the game companies have to. if the game was 100% hacked nobody would play. Of course since nobody looks at anything with realistic eyes on the net.. SCREW DICE!

Wow. Someone with common sense for a change. Too many fucking crying idiots on these forums these days. Do you so called gamers ever stop to think for a second before bitching? While their decision is shitty, I can see where DICE is coming from. Hackers are very clever, if you allow one mod to pass through, where then can you draw the line?

Also, I see enough noobs crying about cheaters as it is when I play, while sometimes the cries are valid, most of the time it's because they got owned too hard. Now if dice relaxes their stance on mods, you little girls will probably be crying even more...if that is even possible.

As for color grading. Personally and artistically speaking, I prefer what Dice did more than what is in the mod. The injector make everything a bit too over saturated like some noob photographer just discovered HDR photography. I sure as hell would not enjoyed Saving Private Ryan as much if Spilberg decided to keep color saturation at 100%.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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The fact that it's a modification is incidental. DICE defends their art design no matter how many people say they don't like it.

That said, enhancing spotting ability? You can already just hit Q to locate people you didn't know were there. Only full out wallhacks are going to give you better than what's built in to dumb down the game. Fortunately Planetside 2, while doing SOME of these dumbdowns, isn't going too crazy about it.
 
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HeXen

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you can still have tons of fun whether there are cheaters or not, just some people take their numbers and ranks way too seriously.
 

NoSoup4You

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fixing the color is not the reason for the bans.. but if you want to believe that.. no amount of reasoning will change your mind.. a simple color change is fine.. but to many take advantage and mod it farther to enhance spotting ability.. its the old problem, you let one guy change it so it looks differnt but doesnt thurt gameplay, somebody else will fook with it and twist it so they have an advantage.. Hence.. you cant allow any of it.. people on the internet cant detirmin fair boundries so the game companies have to. if the game was 100% hacked nobody would play. Of course since nobody looks at anything with realistic eyes on the net.. SCREW DICE!

Would you guys chill out, you're ruining a perfectly good EA-bashing session with all your logic and reasoning..
 
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The fact that it's a modification is incidental. DICE defends their art design no matter how many people say they don't like it.

That said, enhancing spotting ability? You can already just hit Q to locate people you didn't know were there. Only full out wallhacks are going to give you better than what's built in to dumb down the game. Fortunately Planetside 2, while doing SOME of these dumbdowns, isn't going too crazy about it.

Seriously. The game already has legal wallhacks. There is no difference at all.

Furthurmore, to the guy who says it seems like amateur photography, the HDR setting isn't changed AT ALL. The game literally has a blue filter above the game. The game is rendered normally with color, and then just has a blue hue added to it. It looks terrible.

Dice refuses to make good changes and continues to perpetuate the shit that is BF3.
 

sigurros81

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Seriously. The game already has legal wallhacks. There is no difference at all.

Furthurmore, to the guy who says it seems like amateur photography, the HDR setting isn't changed AT ALL. The game literally has a blue filter above the game. The game is rendered normally with color, and then just has a blue hue added to it. It looks terrible.

Dice refuses to make good changes and continues to perpetuate the shit that is BF3.

Wrong. Try again. They do more to it than just add a blue filter, one being the desaturation. Example, the blues in the skies are not as saturated, you get an almost grey. If they just added a blue filter, the blue skies would not be affected at all...noob.

And the even bigger noob is the one that says all you need to do is hit Q to see where enemies are. Yeah, you go ahead and do that, I'd much prefer to see my enemies stand out more than having to resort to spamming spamming Q.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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Spamming Q/hitting Q, it's all the same. Every time you want to know where an enemy is you hit Q. It's the basis of the game now, not using your eyes.