Battlefield 2

[DannyLove]

Originally posted by: Flash1969
Great game. I haven't played for a couple of months, but I definitely got my moneys worth with it.

I'm surprised nobody is slamming the game, it's not very popular around here.

Well, I'm probably the biggest defender of this game so if anyone wants to slam point by point, i'm here willing to argue and defend and make a point

 

[hooflung]

Couldn't stand the gameplay when it came out. I don't like games that rewards teamwork if I can do it myself better than the team. 1942 I could win multiplayer maps with a tank and a sniper rifle playing like lone wolf. BF2 wins seem to break down when you didn't help crutch the team so that 'special force' feeling 1942 and desert combat could give that special someone really died.

So I never bought it for myself. Never played games that promoted BF2 style gameplay until the Quake Wars Demo. I hated classic Enemy Territory as well fyi. But a friend just got me to get BF2 off of Amazon used for 7.50 shipped so we could play Project Reality.

I can tell you right now, it turns BF2's gameplay into something special. It might not be 1942 but it is the first game I've played that made a war game feel like I needed to act like I was on the field. No gimmick team building skills according to game mechanics the DEVS make you run through. Just all out war that needs patience and communication. Instead of fast paced team quirks you get a solid 1.5 - 3 hour map experience like no other.

Really well done. For 7.50 you cannot beat that. Now if there were more Project Reality Servers around in the US and some active competition and it would be win sauce x 1000.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

Originally posted by: Auryg
After going back to 1942, Battlefield 2 just didn't work for me. I think the original is still the best, IMO of course.

The original had absolutely terrible infantry combat. I did prefer the human operated artillery, though. Forgotten Hope 2 has brought that back to BF2, thank god.

I've kinda lost touch with BF2 and FH2, is Forgotten Hope 2 done????

The African theater is out, with quite a few vehicles. I'm waiting anxiously for the patch which will (I think) include some European combat, and thus the more well-known vehicles/weapons. FH2 is definitely good so far, though.

 

[DannyLove]

Originally posted by: hooflung
Couldn't stand the gameplay when it came out. I don't like games that rewards teamwork if I can do it myself better than the team. 1942 I could win multiplayer maps with a tank and a sniper rifle playing like lone wolf. BF2 wins seem to break down when you didn't help crutch the team so that 'special force' feeling 1942 and desert combat could give that special someone really died.

Reward Teamwork. ? How so? If you mean points gathering, you can be a lone wolf and still play for your team and get the win and still be bad ass in it. You're not forced to be a member of a squad nor do you get dinged in points because of that, it just makes it a bit easier, honestly. You can't revive yourself you know, and you can still do everything yourself if you wanted to anyway and still come out #1 and get GOLD ontop of all your other rewards.

Not sure I understand where you feel it breaks down. Either teamplay or lone wolf, you can still do the same damage, earn points, and still win for your team.

 

[NoSoup4You]

Indeed. BF2 supports lone wolves just as much as teams/squads, if not more so. On infantry maps I could play solo and just bullrush the enemy and finish in the Top 3 of my team more often than not. And on jet maps... forget it. Without joining a squad I could go 45-0 in a jet (yes, even the F-35B) and finish first with ease.

BF2142 was a little different... that game made squad play almost mandatory.

 

[Fardor]

I wish the UAV was a real camera feed thing. Where the commander remote controlled it and team members had a little screen in a corner where the camera feed came in. That way squads could actually go covert and stuff, without having to worry about being artilleried where they were hidden up in the hills because they appear as four red dots to the opposing commander.
Also, walking on foot felt like sludging through thick mud and the guns and aiming system didn't seem that solid feeling.

Besides those two things the game was really awesome. When it was newer it felt really satisfying to play, esp. with a cool squad. I think BF2 would make a really great base for a new game. Just improve on everything that needs improvement, and more maps.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: mindcycle

Originally posted by: videogames101

I know for a fact that there is a BF3 in development and it's not Bad Company.

Ok, can you share your source then? I searched for Battlefield 3 and all I came up with were rumors and people mentioning Bad Company. I'm not trying to prove anything here, if there is a Battlefield 3 then i'd be very interested in reading more about it.

No I can't.

But I can pose you a question, would EA really focus all their development on such a profitable PC series on a console game such as Bad-Company?

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: NoSoup4You
Indeed. BF2 supports lone wolves just as much as teams/squads, if not more so. On infantry maps I could play solo and just bullrush the enemy and finish in the Top 3 of my team more often than not. And on jet maps... forget it. Without joining a squad I could go 45-0 in a jet (yes, even the F-35B) and finish first with ease.

BF2142 was a little different... that game made squad play almost mandatory.

BF2142 is much more balanced. I did not like BF 1942 or 2 b/c of lack of balance. Especially 1942. Each version is a bit more balanced than the one before it.

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider
I bought BF2 right after it came out in 2005. I have been playing off and on since then. It's just a phenomenal game with so much replay value I keep coming back to it years later. I know some people hate it and have had many, many problems with it. I never have though.

This was the game that made me upgrade to 2GB of ram in 2005. The load times were incredibly slow on my Athlon XP 3200+ PC with 512 MB; once I upgraded the load times were gone, no more HD swapping. The game ran well on my Radeon 9800 Pro 128.

Out of all the FPS games over the years I have gotten the most enjoyment out of BF2.

It's fun as hell

 

[idiotekniQues]

my clanmates hated the cone of fire of bf2.

it is hard to beat squad based shooters with a good squad. 2142 for me.

top infantry man here, anybody wants to play some 2142 im in. my soldiers are puddinhead and zipplock

carebear, jibby, tunafish & belgrade are my haunting grounds. sometimes berlin.

 

[KeypoX]

I miss it, still have it installed but have trouble findin decent servers now adays. I have played since it came out. No game has ever compared... I was hoping COD4 would but nope

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: KeypoX
I miss it, still have it installed but have trouble findin decent servers now adays. I have played since it came out. No game has ever compared... I was hoping COD4 would but nope

Big big problems with CoD4 are:

Crappy server browser.
No vehicles in MP.
Crappy maps.

It's a very good looking game though.

 

[ViviTheMage]

wake forever baby.


I just played it last night with my little brother, probably going to LAN BF2 this weekend, hahaha.

Running around in the attack helo , destroying people.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: mindcycle

Originally posted by: videogames101

I know for a fact that there is a BF3 in development and it's not Bad Company.

Ok, can you share your source then? I searched for Battlefield 3 and all I came up with were rumors and people mentioning Bad Company. I'm not trying to prove anything here, if there is a Battlefield 3 then i'd be very interested in reading more about it.

No I can't.

But I can pose you a question, would EA really focus all their development on such a profitable PC series on a console game such as Bad-Company?

Here's some news:

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-2/315490-bf3-hinted-bf-executive-producer.html

PC gamer magazine:
Our Spies tell us we'll soon see the announcement of Battlefield 3. This is great for fans of online shooting, long distance sniping, helicopter strafing and comedy tank antics. EA are tight-lipped for now, but here's what to expect.

Modern Combat
The biggest question: when and where will it be set? We hear it's going to be modern-day, in a fictional war between NATO and the Middle Eastern coalition [MEC]. Consider the last game - a future of floating artillery and anti-grav platforms - a diversion. Most of the eight maps will focus on urban sites. We'd love to see a return of Strike at Karkand - a frenzied battle across an empty city.

More Online
Since Battlefield 2, the team at DICE have picked up influence from MMO game. Persistent stat tracking and new weapons for experienced players will be present, but we're hoping for more. Expect to customize your soldier's appearance, armour, and weaponry beyond unlocks. Choosing a face, voice, tattoos, and badges would be an obvious start.

Heavy Tech
In console land, they're already being treated to a new Battlefield game, Subtitled Bad Company, it's debut of the next-gen "Frostbite" engine. Aside from producing staggering draw distance that lets you pick off targets miles away, it's imbued with some serious deformation technology. Buildings can be blown apart, bridges burst and craters carved. Battlefield 3 will evolve that technology further.

Class Act
Why mess with a near perfect set of abilities? Battlefield 3 won't alter the standard Sniper, Assault, Medic, Engineer, and Support class balance. Want a quick rev? Call for a Medic. Need a tank busted? Grab the Assault trooper and pray he's packed an RPG launcher.

Guns, And More Guns
Every soldier needs a weapon, and Battlefield 3 will be chock full of firearms, 34 in fact, split evenly between the MEC and NATO. You'll have to work for the privilege of sporting the most powerful rifles. As well as weapons, you'll unlock armour, ammo, helmets and accessories.

Play Together
The best feature of Battlefield 2. Sharing objectives and voice chat with friends as five-man squads. That's being extended, with squads able to join up to form a battalion - the perfect partner for improved clan support and ranked servers. Commanders can still order grunts to the front and supply them with ammo drops, radar pings, UAV reconnaissance and the occasional artillery strike.

I picked-up BF2 on a whim when it first came out. I hadn't played a video game in close to 15 years. Well, I became hooked. Found myself playing way too many hours. Upgrading my pc constantly. Met many cool folks, joined a clan, made good friends(even visiting some of them).

And I still play it though many people have faded away. Can't wait for BF3 to be able to play with a lot of my buddies again.

 

[Lorax]

do people play the basic bf2 or the expansion?

 

[DannyLove]

Originally posted by: Lorax
do people play the basic bf2 or the expansion?

Both. However, you'll find more servers on basic BF2, you'll also find a lot of servers with annoying admins or server rules, etc. When you go into the expansion realm, the servers are spread very thin. And in many cases are not North American servers which means you have a high ping and then you get automatically kicked. You can still find good pinging servers though so its no problem.

COD4: MP was a HUGE disappointment. I'm just glad I never bought the game to find out. Nothing will compare to BF2 in terms of vehicle usage. I was really hoping COD4 would have that, and to my dismay, not 1 single vehicle in multiplayer. It's COD2 all over again.

 

[hooflung]

Not sure I understand where you feel it breaks down. Either teamplay or lone wolf, you can still do the same damage, earn points, and still win for your team.

I played the early days on beta and other people's PCs. It was nothing like BF1942 or Vietnam and PUBS were really, really anal about not playing in sqads where I played for pings healthy to me. Doesn't matter if years down the road but my initial take on it was lone wolf was at the very least rewarded if you were a wing man, just really far out. I didn't care to know what the idiots on the team are doing... I played it like I was an army of one like I did BF1942.

It definitely didn't cater to my version of solo wolf style and having to do all the point earning was a slap in the face. Shitty servers admins and settings were bogus too. It catered to the fun and gun and parachute rabbit hoppers.

 

[DannyLove]

Originally posted by: hooflung

Not sure I understand where you feel it breaks down. Either teamplay or lone wolf, you can still do the same damage, earn points, and still win for your team.

I played the early days on beta and other people's PCs. It was nothing like BF1942 or Vietnam and PUBS were really, really anal about not playing in sqads where I played for pings healthy to me. Doesn't matter if years down the road but my initial take on it was lone wolf was at the very least rewarded if you were a wing man, just really far out. I didn't care to know what the idiots on the team are doing... I played it like I was an army of one like I did BF1942.

It definitely didn't cater to my version of solo wolf style and having to do all the point earning was a slap in the face. Shitty servers admins and settings were bogus too. It catered to the fun and gun and parachute rabbit hoppers.

Sadly, your argument is biased by one experience, years ago.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: hooflung

Not sure I understand where you feel it breaks down. Either teamplay or lone wolf, you can still do the same damage, earn points, and still win for your team.

I played the early days on beta and other people's PCs. It was nothing like BF1942 or Vietnam and PUBS were really, really anal about not playing in sqads where I played for pings healthy to me. Doesn't matter if years down the road but my initial take on it was lone wolf was at the very least rewarded if you were a wing man, just really far out. I didn't care to know what the idiots on the team are doing... I played it like I was an army of one like I did BF1942.

It definitely didn't cater to my version of solo wolf style and having to do all the point earning was a slap in the face. Shitty servers admins and settings were bogus too. It catered to the fun and gun and parachute rabbit hoppers.

They did not want you playing in squads? I have never come across a server that didn't want people in squads. A lot of server will kick you if you don't join a squad.

 

[idiotekniQues]

please god no cone of fire in bf3!

 

[Shadow Conception]

I just couldn't get into it. Giant, mundane levels, very limited stamina, guns feel weak, etc.

COD4 on the other hand sucked me in. But something about BF2 just repelled me from it.

 

[hooflung]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: hooflung

Not sure I understand where you feel it breaks down. Either teamplay or lone wolf, you can still do the same damage, earn points, and still win for your team.

I played the early days on beta and other people's PCs. It was nothing like BF1942 or Vietnam and PUBS were really, really anal about not playing in sqads where I played for pings healthy to me. Doesn't matter if years down the road but my initial take on it was lone wolf was at the very least rewarded if you were a wing man, just really far out. I didn't care to know what the idiots on the team are doing... I played it like I was an army of one like I did BF1942.

It definitely didn't cater to my version of solo wolf style and having to do all the point earning was a slap in the face. Shitty servers admins and settings were bogus too. It catered to the fun and gun and parachute rabbit hoppers.

They did not want you playing in squads? I have never come across a server that didn't want people in squads. A lot of server will kick you if you don't join a squad.

No they were anal if you didn't play in a squad. You pretty much made made my point for me. Sorry if I was unclear. I didn't like the servers because they kinda forced you to play as a team. Its bad enough being kicked and banned off server for being too good and they think you are a hacker. Its even worse for me to be banned because I decide I am better off helping the team by not taking crap orders from crap team leaders on PUGS.

 

[DannyLove]

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: hooflung

Not sure I understand where you feel it breaks down. Either teamplay or lone wolf, you can still do the same damage, earn points, and still win for your team.

I played the early days on beta and other people's PCs. It was nothing like BF1942 or Vietnam and PUBS were really, really anal about not playing in sqads where I played for pings healthy to me. Doesn't matter if years down the road but my initial take on it was lone wolf was at the very least rewarded if you were a wing man, just really far out. I didn't care to know what the idiots on the team are doing... I played it like I was an army of one like I did BF1942.

It definitely didn't cater to my version of solo wolf style and having to do all the point earning was a slap in the face. Shitty servers admins and settings were bogus too. It catered to the fun and gun and parachute rabbit hoppers.

They did not want you playing in squads? I have never come across a server that didn't want people in squads. A lot of server will kick you if you don't join a squad.

No they were anal if you didn't play in a squad. You pretty much made made my point for me. Sorry if I was unclear. I didn't like the servers because they kinda forced you to play as a team. Its bad enough being kicked and banned off server for being too good and they think you are a hacker. Its even worse for me to be banned because I decide I am better off helping the team by not taking crap orders from crap team leaders on PUGS.

Relax Lone Wolf of the Year.... I like to say I'm very good, I kick ass solo but honestly, I play a lot better with a squad. You need to realize this isn't a global thing. Yes there are some servers that kick you for not being in a squad, you want to know the solution to that? Don't join the server! There are plenty of servers out there, many have their rules and YES there are stupid kid admins who enforce them, big deal.

Like the other day, I got kicked from a server just because my [420] tag's didn't agree to their "use of drugs" lol what a joke but whatever. The real reason was because I was owning their members.

Again, you are arguing from a small point of view. And with time you've grown bitter towards the game thus why you are continuing to reply and defend your reasoning.

To each their own. BF2 will remain a bad ass modern warfare game and beats Crap of Duty any day.

 

[Drift3r]

Love BF2 infantry maps but I hate vehicle maps...well only those with aircraft in it.

 

[Coldkilla]

Project Reality FTW! (With Ventrillo of course, that's a must - especially with people who actually know how to play and are above puberty!)