Once again, Valve and ID are in a completely different situation. Valve and ID aren't looking to just sale copies of their games- their biggest goal is licensing their engines. Most of their money comes from licensing fees. A royalty free license for the Source engine or Doom 3 engine are upwards of $1M a pop. Why does this matter? Because it gives Valve and ID a much bigger reason to make their engine robust and backwards compatible with old hardware. Valve and ID will see WAAAAY more profits than EA will for BF2, so the cost of the added development is less of a factor. So in other words, quit comparing EA/DICE w/ Valve and ID- they have completely different business models. You don't know if it would be profitable or not, so quit pretending you do.
Four years from now? You have to be kidding. If you mean 4 years from it's launch date, that is still a bit unreasonable. Sure, it will run games, but not well. I say 3 years is a perfectly acceptable lifespan for a video card. The GeForce 4 series was launched in early '02, so I say it made a good run.
But in the end, nobody knows for sure why EA decided to not include support, but to me, it looks like they just wanted to get it out as fast as they possibly could.
From when? Now? LMAO.
Your video card cannot run the latest game out there, it is obsolete, buy a new card or don't play the game.
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It was pretty amusing to read this thread, particularly all the comments from GeneralAres that showed he wasn't even listening to those who were trying to present points or arguments to him. At least everyone else here seems to be able to think logically though. 
Bottom line - the developers chose not to include support for a line of video cards that is now over three years old, which is pretty long in computer hardware cycles (and especially so in the "gamers" context). It was their decision to make, they had their own reasons for making it (which no one here can presume to know, unless they work for EA/DICE), and as others have pointed out, their sales don't appear to be suffering. So I'd say that their decision was pretty sound.
Bottom line - the developers chose not to include support for a line of video cards that is now over three years old, which is pretty long in computer hardware cycles (and especially so in the "gamers" context). It was their decision to make, they had their own reasons for making it (which no one here can presume to know, unless they work for EA/DICE), and as others have pointed out, their sales don't appear to be suffering. So I'd say that their decision was pretty sound.
This has already been explained to you. Just because you refuse to acknowledge the differences doesn't mean they aren't so. You seem to be the only one here confused about this, and quite a few people have tried explaining it to you in as many ways possible to try to "unconfuse" you. We've all obviously failed.
You must be some sort of masochist. I can't believe you revived this thread. I've never seen someone so committed to proving their own ignorance.
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I don't think that they 'let the 8500 work'. The 8500 works because its hardware allows it to do the minimum pixel shading necessary to play the game. I can't imagine it would play very well at anything other then 'low' settings. It was, IIRC, the first card that offered Pixel Shader 1.4 and I doubt that it has the 'horsepower' to process all of the other items that well. I don't mean to knock the card, but it is also 'dated'.
Others have stated that a 'Gamer' can expect to pay about $200 every 2 years or $400 every four years to stay current with the requirements of the newer games. Yes, you can get away for less, and yes, you can spend alot more. But when the OP could sell his GF4 for about $40-$50 and buy a 9700Pro for about $80-$90 (used, shipped and maybe with a better HS/Fan), this thread is moot. Just pound your chest and make silly comments while not reading the other peoples replies to your post and you will fit in fine around here.
"OOughhh AAghh.... I think that my 6800GT should last me a LIFETIME! Aargh...."
No it can run the game at low detail level fine, proving my point.
Telling someone that they should upgrade a card that cost them $400 2 1/2 years ago when it plays every other game fine is elitist and ignorant.
Some companies simply have different methods of how they choose to release products. ID and Valve choose to not release it until it is ready. This philosphy has paid off for them and companies like Blizzard. Selling engine licenses is not an excuse for one developer to be lazy. Quite pretending you know why ID and Valve make the decisions you do.
It was announce in '02 and did not start selling in any real volume until early '03. Four years is more then acceptable to start a game up. The card still runs all the current title including Doom3 and Half-Life 2.
It can run the latest games out there such as Doom3, Half-Life 2 and FarCry.
Listening does not mean to agree when the logic is flawed. Making excuses doesn't excuse the facts.
With this comment you just disputed every argument that you claimed I didn't listen too. Irony?
Yes I have already explained this to you many times and those arguing the same useless point. I understand your confusion though, alot of people are. The problem here is you need to get your ego out of the way to comprehend it.
Whose fault is it that you spent that much? Not ours. From my point of view it was a stupid decision to spend your money on the highest-end card at the time, rather than get a mid-range that will do nearly just fine, so your wallet isn't empty come next generation. Besides, the generation gap has to happen sooner or later, or we'd all be stuck with Voodoos playing Quake 2.
JustAnAverageGuy said:
So have you even tried starting the BF2 (demo) on your PC? This whole thread could be much ado about nothing.
I'm happy they're phasing out old generations. All it means is better graphics. My friend had a GF4 Ti4200, and he happily got a cheap 9600XT to play Battlefield 2. Get with the program.
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