Battle of San Jacinto April 21, 1836

[Texashiker]

Why do you believe this? The quote is "no taxation without representation" not "no taxation at all because FREEDOM." Do we have representation? Then we have the power to vote for the taxation systems we would prefer. The people have seen fit to vote in a series of politicians from two political parties who continually seek to raise additional revenues because both are interested in increasing the size of the government; the consolidation of power into two prominent parties would probably bother the founding fathers slightly more than the relative level of taxation. But they'd also probably be pretty impressed that we had made ourselves into a legitimate superpower, so maybe that tax money was well spent.

A republic only works when you have an educated voting populace. Blindly voting for one party or the other does not work. Blindly voting for either party does not work.

It was sometime around 1993 a man I worked with and myself were talking about the government and voting. It may have been when clinton was running for president.

The man told me would never vote republican. In his mind democrats stood by the working people so he only voted democrat. Little did he know Clinton would sign two free trade treaties and send millions of jobs overseas.

It is that kind of blind loyalty that has led us down this path.

Ross Perot stood up on TV and told the nation how free trade was going to be bad for the economy. And clinton still won the election.

Are people that stupid? Bush jr was elected twice, clinton twice, obama twice. That tells me the republic is not working.

 

[marincounty]

Ross Perot was a special kind of crazy, Texas crazy. His solution to the drug problem was to go door to door, kicking them in and arresting people.
Voting for Clinton was rational in the face of Perot's crazy talk.

 

[alzan]

Ok then, what is the problem?

Our forefathers would be rolling over in their grave if they knew how much we were paying in taxes.

I would love to hvae seen Thomas Jefferson paying property taxes on Monticello. Boston tea party happened a small tax. But yet we are taxed out the ass?

Move to Europe, then talk about how the US taxes people out the ass.

The price we pay is to live under the threat of imprisonment?

Your logic and information is faulty; as dank69 pointed out the IRS garnishes wages. Can't pay a tax bill when you're sitting in prison (and sucking up tax money to boot).

 

[IronWing]

Are the people so afraid of change that we live in misery?

Do you live in misery? Sounds like a personal problem.

 

[brycejones]

Oh good grief this is like an A420 thread.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Oh good grief this is like an A420 thread.

Nah, those make more sense.