Batman: The Killing Joke (2016)

[mikeymikec]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4853102

R-rated animated movie, with Kevin Conroy / Mark Hamill doing the lead voices. The artwork in the trailer looks less than ideal though, couldn't they have got the guys who did the original animated series (though I think season 4 was with different artists)?

 

[thesmokingman]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4853102

R-rated animated movie, with Kevin Conroy / Mark Hamill doing the lead voices. The artwork in the trailer looks less than ideal though, couldn't they have got the guys who did the original animated series (though I think season 4 was with different artists)?

Hamill sorta looks like the a remake of Micky Goldmill from Rocky lol.

 

[CZroe]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4853102



R-rated animated movie, with Kevin Conroy / Mark Hamill doing the lead voices. The artwork in the trailer looks less than ideal though, couldn't they have got the guys who did the original animated series (though I think season 4 was with different artists)?

IIRC, the original animated series was done by four different foreign animation studios in the first season and one of them was fired early on for sub-par animation (you can easily pick their episodes out of the others). Well, I say "season" but syndicated kids shows were always sold to broadcasters and networks as a 65 episode complete series followed by much smaller sets of episodes of the initial 65 prove more demand.

The Killing Joke is DCU and not DCAU, so it's supposed to ape the style of the comic. The DCAU Batman style changed drastically over the years anyway.

 

[drbrock]

The Dark Knight Animated Movies were excellent. One of the few I watch over and over. All Star Superman is another one. I hope Killing Joke does well. The most recent batch of movies have been only OK. Watch once, happy I saw them but probably won't revisit.

Def no not like the animation in this one. For such a serious/major movie I would think it would be a little more detailed/realistic.

The old Jsutice League movies still hold up well. A shame they don't release more episodes. Teen Titans bombed but was good. Maybe Adult Swim would be a good place.

 

[Crono]

Style looks like animated web series, but at least they got Conroy and Hamill. That already puts it above the Nolan live action movies (for me at least, I know there are plenty of fans of TDK).

 

[Ichinisan]

I watched Red Hood and hated it.

Watched the two-part thing with Robocop voicing Batman and HATED it more than I can possibly describe.

 

[DigDog]

correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't 90% of Killing Joke (graphic novel) wind up in Tim Burton's original Batman?

 

[CZroe]

correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't 90% of Killing Joke (graphic novel) wind up in Tim Burton's original Batman?

...and...? DC Universe movies are direct DC comics adaptations in animation. It's why freakin' Ronald Reagan sics Superman on Batman and all the news anchors wear '80s jewelry and hairstyles with neon colors and abstract shapes on their stylized news broadcasts. This is a panel-by-panel adaptation of a very particular DCU book: The Killing Joke.

Burton's Batman isn't DCU, DC Animated Universe (distinct from DCU), or even DC Cinematic Universe (current Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Justice League stuff).

 

[mikeymikec]

correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't 90% of Killing Joke (graphic novel) wind up in Tim Burton's original Batman?

My understanding was that 'The Dark Knight' (ie. Nolan movie) used 'The Killing Joke' as a source.

 

[CZroe]

My understanding was that 'The Dark Knight' (ie. Nolan movie) used 'The Killing Joke' as a source.

Neither matters in relation to this adaptation. Besides, almost every Batman movie or show following The Killing Joke was deeply inspired by or influenced by it.

Spielberg used Jeff Wayne's 1978 War of the Worlds musical as reference material for his own adaptation of War of the Worlds... but the movie was not a musical, told a completely different story, and didn't even mention Mars or Martians. Like Jeff Wayne's musical, it just became another adaptation of H.G. Well's original WotW. When the stage musical revived several years later and the album got a 2012 remaster with new voice actors including Liam Neeson and a visual movie to go along with it, no one felt the need to point out that Spielberg's WotW adaptation already existed.

Borrowing from it to tell your own story is one thing, recreating it in another format as close as possible is something else. DCU animated movies are attempting to recreate the graphic novels panel by panel with no changes to the story details. That had not been done. It was one of the most important story arcs so if any needed to be done it had to be done regardless of what other movies had borrowed from it in the past.

 

[swamplizard]

Greetings,

Anyone here know what became of the "Fell" series by Warren Ellis? I have up to issue #8 and there were covers for 9 and 10, but I never witnessed their release. Also, has anyone here read the "Freakangels?"

 

[ViRGE]

Style looks like animated web series, but at least they got Conroy and Hamill. That already puts it above the Nolan live action movies (for me at least, I know there are plenty of fans of TDK).

Ditto. I'm a sucker for Conroy + Hamill. That simply is Batman and The Joker to me for any kind of serious work.

 

[mikeymikec]

Ditto. I'm a sucker for Conroy + Hamill. That simply is Batman and The Joker to me for any kind of serious work.

Out of curiosity, the people who feel this way (which happens to include me) - did you grow up watching the animated series (I did)?

 

[ViRGE]

Out of curiosity, the people who feel this way (which happens to include me) - did you grow up watching the animated series (I did)?

I wouldn't say grew up, but the earlier Batman cartoons didn't have the same kind of quality to them that made them stick like BTAS did.

 

[DigDog]

now, don't get me wrong, i would love to see a proper adaptation of The Killing Joke - this is in my view, the best Batman comic ever made, even over Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns. But i don't think there's enough content for a film, that people haven't seen before, to make it a hit.
The story is essntially, part 1 - where the joker falls into a vat of acid, as seen in Burton's Batman, part 2 - where the joker abducts Gordon, which would possibly come out as a gruesome horror, not something we associate with film Batman, and part 3 - Batman shows up and the story is over.