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Bass Players

spacejamz

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are bass players who use a pick less or more talented than those who don't use a pick???

just wondering what the consensus here is...I will post my reasons for creating this poll later...
 

upsciLLion

Diamond Member
Feb 21, 2001
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Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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I say no pick, but i don't really hate those who use one
 

Canai

Diamond Member
Oct 4, 2006
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If you ALWAYS use a pick, then yes. There are more ways to play a bass than with a pick.

I use a pick sometimes, but I'm always switching from fingering to slap to pick and so on.
 

spacejamz

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Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.

the next time you watch a jazz type band play, check out the bass player to see if he plays with a pick or not...

the reason I say this is that jazz bassists often add more to a live performance than the bassist of a 'pop band'...
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.

the next time you watch a jazz type band play, check out the bass player to see if he plays with a pick or not...

the reason I say this is that jazz bassists often add more to a live performance than the bassist of a 'pop band'...

well, a jazz bass has a very specific sound. some modern/rock songs would sound vastly different if played w/o a pick
 

Canai

Diamond Member
Oct 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.

the next time you watch a jazz type band play, check out the bass player to see if he plays with a pick or not...

the reason I say this is that jazz bassists often add more to a live performance than the bassist of a 'pop band'...

Well, jazz is more suited to the soft-fingered pluck, while picking is reserved for faster, more technical playing.
 

spacejamz

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.

the next time you watch a jazz type band play, check out the bass player to see if he plays with a pick or not...

the reason I say this is that jazz bassists often add more to a live performance than the bassist of a 'pop band'...

well, a jazz bass has a very specific sound. some modern/rock songs would sound vastly different if played w/o a pick

IMO, the bass track of most 'modern/rock'' songs could be played by machine and no one would ever know the difference.

 

Canai

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Oct 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.

the next time you watch a jazz type band play, check out the bass player to see if he plays with a pick or not...

the reason I say this is that jazz bassists often add more to a live performance than the bassist of a 'pop band'...

well, a jazz bass has a very specific sound. some modern/rock songs would sound vastly different if played w/o a pick

IMO, the bass track of most 'modern/rock'' songs could be played by machine and no one would ever know the difference.

Yeah. That's the main reason I have so much trouble in bands nowadays... they want me to play some simple crap over and over, when all I want to do is jam out.

3 different levels of musician:

Cover musician - lowest, crappy.
Band musican - can play a riff or two
Jam artist - comfortable enough with their instrument to sit down with a group of people they've never met and have an awesome jam session.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.

the next time you watch a jazz type band play, check out the bass player to see if he plays with a pick or not...

the reason I say this is that jazz bassists often add more to a live performance than the bassist of a 'pop band'...

well, a jazz bass has a very specific sound. some modern/rock songs would sound vastly different if played w/o a pick

IMO, the bass track of most 'modern/rock'' songs could be played by machine and no one would ever know the difference.

i bet you'd enjoy playing bass alot more with that pick outta your ass
 

spacejamz

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.

the next time you watch a jazz type band play, check out the bass player to see if he plays with a pick or not...

the reason I say this is that jazz bassists often add more to a live performance than the bassist of a 'pop band'...

Well, jazz is more suited to the soft-fingered pluck, while picking is reserved for faster, more technical playing.

help me out and define what 'technical playing' is...

i really don't keep in touch with alot of the new stuff today, but IMO, Steve Harris of Iron Maiden will run circles around anyone today...his bass tracks were not the same thing played over and over like pretty much all of the stuff we hear today...

Billy Sheehan of Talas also had alot of unique stuff...hell, pulling teeth on Metallica's kill'em all trumps anything out there right now unless someone can prove me wrong...
 

spacejamz

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.

the next time you watch a jazz type band play, check out the bass player to see if he plays with a pick or not...

the reason I say this is that jazz bassists often add more to a live performance than the bassist of a 'pop band'...

well, a jazz bass has a very specific sound. some modern/rock songs would sound vastly different if played w/o a pick

IMO, the bass track of most 'modern/rock'' songs could be played by machine and no one would ever know the difference.

i bet you'd enjoy playing bass alot more with that pick outta your ass

probably not since I don't play bass...

 

Canai

Diamond Member
Oct 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.

the next time you watch a jazz type band play, check out the bass player to see if he plays with a pick or not...

the reason I say this is that jazz bassists often add more to a live performance than the bassist of a 'pop band'...

Well, jazz is more suited to the soft-fingered pluck, while picking is reserved for faster, more technical playing.

help me out and define what 'technical playing' is...

i really don't keep in touch with alot of the new stuff today, but IMO, Steve Harris of Iron Maiden will run circles around anyone today...his bass tracks were not the same thing played over and over like pretty much all of the stuff we hear today...

Billy Sheehan of Talas also had alot of unique stuff...hell, pulling teeth on Metallica's kill'em all trumps anything out there right now unless someone can prove me wrong...

I don't really know anything about the guys you mentioned heh.

By techincal playing I mean double picking or doing chords or palm muting... stuff like that. Sounds you can only get from a pick.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.

the next time you watch a jazz type band play, check out the bass player to see if he plays with a pick or not...

the reason I say this is that jazz bassists often add more to a live performance than the bassist of a 'pop band'...

well, a jazz bass has a very specific sound. some modern/rock songs would sound vastly different if played w/o a pick

IMO, the bass track of most 'modern/rock'' songs could be played by machine and no one would ever know the difference.

i bet you'd enjoy playing bass alot more with that pick outta your ass

probably not since I don't play bass...



roger waters plays with a pick. flea occasionally plays with a pick. jason chandellor(sp?) plays with a pick.
 

Canai

Diamond Member
Oct 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.

the next time you watch a jazz type band play, check out the bass player to see if he plays with a pick or not...

the reason I say this is that jazz bassists often add more to a live performance than the bassist of a 'pop band'...

well, a jazz bass has a very specific sound. some modern/rock songs would sound vastly different if played w/o a pick

IMO, the bass track of most 'modern/rock'' songs could be played by machine and no one would ever know the difference.

i bet you'd enjoy playing bass alot more with that pick outta your ass

probably not since I don't play bass...

armchair bassist? lol

roger waters plays with a pick. flea occasionally plays with a pick. adam jones plays with a pick.

Isn't Adam the guitarrist?
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.

the next time you watch a jazz type band play, check out the bass player to see if he plays with a pick or not...

the reason I say this is that jazz bassists often add more to a live performance than the bassist of a 'pop band'...

well, a jazz bass has a very specific sound. some modern/rock songs would sound vastly different if played w/o a pick

IMO, the bass track of most 'modern/rock'' songs could be played by machine and no one would ever know the difference.

i bet you'd enjoy playing bass alot more with that pick outta your ass

probably not since I don't play bass...

armchair bassist? lol

roger waters plays with a pick. flea occasionally plays with a pick. adam jones plays with a pick.

Isn't Adam the guitarrist?

Yeah. that's why he plays with a pick. lol

fixed
 

Canai

Diamond Member
Oct 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Using a plectrum produces an entirely different sound. I don't believe it has much, if anything, to do with skill level.

the next time you watch a jazz type band play, check out the bass player to see if he plays with a pick or not...

the reason I say this is that jazz bassists often add more to a live performance than the bassist of a 'pop band'...

well, a jazz bass has a very specific sound. some modern/rock songs would sound vastly different if played w/o a pick

IMO, the bass track of most 'modern/rock'' songs could be played by machine and no one would ever know the difference.

i bet you'd enjoy playing bass alot more with that pick outta your ass

probably not since I don't play bass...

armchair bassist? lol

roger waters plays with a pick. flea occasionally plays with a pick. adam jones plays with a pick.

Isn't Adam the guitarrist?

Yeah. that's why he plays with a pick. lol

fixed

Haha yeah Justin Chancellor is a major inspiration in my playstyle. I :heart: me some crazy drop D tunes very now and then.
 

TwiceOver

Lifer
Dec 20, 2002
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I usually swap between pick and no pick. Usually by the end of a set I have to pick up all of the picks on the floor to reuse for the next set.
 

Journer

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Jun 30, 2005
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i hate 'bassists' who always pick. why? because they aren't bassists. they are faggy guitarist who think they can play bass. it isn't possible to do the same thing with a pick that you can with your fingers.

/thread
 

Mr Pickles

Diamond Member
Feb 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: Journer
i hate 'bassists' who always pick. why? because they aren't bassists. they are faggy guitarist who think they can play bass. it isn't possible to do the same thing with a pick that you can with your fingers.

/thread

Thats not true at all. Some music calls for a pick, some music is intended to sound sharper. No, its not possible to do the same thing, but there are times when a pick is required. If all you are interested in is, say punk for instance (get off me I know there are bass players that play punk without a pick), then odds are you don't need to even learn how to use your fingers. That's not to say over time you won't pick up on a few things, but there's no need to learn if you are good at what you interested in most.

This debate can go in the same direction with a guitar. "they are just faggy guitarists that only know chords, easy riffs, and barely interesting scales and solos. it isn't possible to do the same thing with a pick that you can with your fingers." The fullest sound from a guitar can only be achieved with a thumb and three fingers. Using a pick with guitars is just more widely accepted.

Don't make a big deal out of people that play bass with a pick. Its not their style so its not their style, stfu.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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I've never played with a bass player that used a pick, and none of the best bass players use one, so I'm going to say NO PICK :)
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: Journer
i hate 'bassists' who always pick. why? because they aren't bassists. they are faggy guitarist who think they can play bass. it isn't possible to do the same thing with a pick that you can with your fingers.

/thread

:thumbsdown:
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Journer
i hate 'bassists' who always pick. why? because they aren't bassists. they are faggy guitarist who think they can play bass. it isn't possible to do the same thing with a pick that you can with your fingers.

/thread

Hey, fuck you, buddy :p
I only use a pick on bass most of the time.