Basic disk install

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Carson Dyle

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How big is your swap file? For speed, I'd keep that on the SSD if you can possibly spare the room.
 

Craig234

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dammit. aborted because of 'file creation error - cyclic redundancy check'. Guess I need to look for an 'ignore errors' option.
 

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How big is your swap file? For speed, I'd keep that on the SSD if you can possibly spare the room.

I don't remember - I moved it on the theory that separate from the OS might or might not help performance, and reducing wear and tear on the SSD.
 

Craig234

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It'd be nice to have just a list of the errors to an output file so I can see which programs are going to be broken, but not sure how to to do that, and too late now it's running.
 

Craig234

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This is strange. Glancing at the window (I think I remembered to run it as admin again), some files are getting an 'access denied' error.

So as a test I opened another cmd window (not as admin) on c:, and said to just copy one of those files - and it did no problem.
 

Craig234

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It's been stuck copying one 4mb file for about 5 or 6 minutes now. That ain't gonna work if it keeps up.
 

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After a couple more minutes it finally got a CRC error and continued. Now it's hung up on another file. I'm wondering if there's either a faster way to get past these errors, or a way to have chkdsk do something that will get around them.
 

Craig234

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I'm guessing the best I can do is let this run for a week while it copies what it can. If I had that error log I could at least know which programs to expect not to run.
 

Elixer

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It should have been a clone (with ddrescue), then you use recovery software on the cloned copy, not original.
Reason being is, xcopy can and will fail, and what is worse is that it can have silent errors as well.
 

Craig234

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After all this I hope Steam recognizes the games as installed when I make the new drive the same letter as the old one.
 

Craig234

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It should have been a clone, then you use recovery software on the cloned copy, not original.
Reason being is, xcopy can and will fail, and what is worse is that it can have silent errors as well.

I'm new to this whole paradigm of 'clone' and 'recovery software used on the clone' on the PC, adding a level of discomfort over the tried and true copying.

To me, clone means sector-by-sector copy of a drive, not something you use recovery software on.
 

Elixer

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I'm new to this whole paradigm of 'clone' and 'recovery software used on the clone' on the PC, adding a level of discomfort over the tried and true copying.

To me, clone means sector-by-sector copy of a drive, not something you use recovery software on.
Right, clone is basically sector by sector copy, and you would use ddrescue to overcome sectors that are too badly corrupted to have valid data anymore.
Once that clone is done, you basically have all files around, but, the structure could be damaged, that is why you run recovery software on the cloned copy, to get as much files back as possible.
You don't do this on the original, since you don't want to cause more bad blocks by repeatedly writing to that HD/device again & again.

This is what all professional services do, they immediately clone everything over, and try to recover as much as possible. If they can't clone, then they start operating on said device to get it to read data again, and then clone ASAP.
 

Craig234

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Right, clone is basically sector by sector copy, and you would use ddrescue to overcome sectors that are too badly corrupted to have valid data anymore.
Once that clone is done, you basically have all files around, but, the structure could be damaged, that is why you run recovery software on the cloned copy, to get as much files back as possible.
You don't do this on the original, since you don't want to cause more bad blocks by repeatedly writing to that HD/device again & again.

This is what all professional services do, they immediately clone everything over, and try to recover as much as possible. If they can't clone, then they start operating on said device to get it to read data again, and then clone ASAP.

Ya, I understand.

I don't think my hard drive is THAT bad yet - I've seen two CRC errors so far - but it generally functions, so this copy and have a few bad files is probably just fine. It's copy, not recovery.

Since I'm not familiar with the cloning process, it adds a lot of variable as I don't know what's going on while it's supposed to be cloning and it's a whole new interface and set of functions to learn for a one-time process.
 

Craig234

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It's mostly copying relatively quickly, I think it's on track to have this done.

It'll be nice to not worry about the HD.
 

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I don't even play world of warships, and boy is it copying a long time - took a look and apparently the game is over 20gb.
 

corkyg

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Sharing violation is why I always clone using a boot drive other than Windows.
 

dlerious

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Macrium will let you create a rescue disk/usb. Emergency disk for EaseUsTodo