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TheAudit

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Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Originally posted by: PipBoy

You are a complete dick if you think it's cool that a player has a season-ending injury, even if he is a yankee.

Then I'm a complete dick. :D
It's cool because this multi-million dollar so-called superstar who got one lucky hit in his career has a clause in his contract that states he's not supposed to engage in any activites where he can possibly hurt himself, INCLUDING BASKETBALL, which he was playing when he tore his ACL. My heart bleeds for him being a dumbass.....
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Clauses like that are supposedly standard across baseball. The Yankees will prohibit their players from bowling, playing table tennis (?), pool, fishing, croquet and shuffleboard. Only one player on the team is allowed to play basketball, Mussina, and he can only play for three weeks of the year at his own indoor court.

Personally, I never liked Boone. I thought he would have been an upgrade over Ventura but he wasn't a sound hitter. He was supposed to have power and speed but there was little evidence of that.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Originally posted by: PipBoy

You are a complete dick if you think it's cool that a player has a season-ending injury, even if he is a yankee.

Then I'm a complete dick. :D
It's cool because this multi-million dollar so-called superstar who got one lucky hit in his career has a clause in his contract that states he's not supposed to engage in any activites where he can possibly hurt himself, INCLUDING BASKETBALL, which he was playing when he tore his ACL. My heart bleeds for him being a dumbass.....
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theres a difference in not feeling bad because he did something he wasnt supposed to and feeling he deserved it. your url is titled sweet redemption. that is a bit heartless. why is it redemption that the guy wont be able to play next year? how does that get you a win in game 7?

My enmity of the Yankees renders my sympathetic feelings to nil for Aaron Boone. I hope he falls down the steps now!!!</unending hatred of the Yankees and anything Yankee>
 

Led Zeppelin

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Originally posted by: PipBoy

You are a complete dick if you think it's cool that a player has a season-ending injury, even if he is a yankee.

Then I'm a complete dick. :D
It's cool because this multi-million dollar so-called superstar who got one lucky hit in his career has a clause in his contract that states he's not supposed to engage in any activites where he can possibly hurt himself, INCLUDING BASKETBALL, which he was playing when he tore his ACL. My heart bleeds for him being a dumbass.....
rolleye.gif

theres a difference in not feeling bad because he did something he wasnt supposed to and feeling he deserved it. your url is titled sweet redemption. that is a bit heartless. why is it redemption that the guy wont be able to play next year? how does that get you a win in game 7?

My enmity of the Yankees renders my sympathetic feelings to nil for Aaron Boone. I hope he falls down the steps now!!!</unending hatred of the Yankees and anything Yankee>

LOL, now that's a little mean.......funny though. :D

 

ClueLis

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Just so people on this forums don't think all Red Sox fans are horrible people, I wouldn't wish an ACL injury on anyone, even Yankees. Also, based on his performance last year, I would hardly say that he is a vital part of the team. Where do we get these nutcase fans of ours?
 

kenshorin

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Originally posted by: ClueLis
Just so people on this forums don't think all Red Sox fans are horrible people, I wouldn't wish an ACL injury on anyone, even Yankees. Also, based on his performance last year, I would hardly say that he is a vital part of the team. Where do we get these nutcase fans of ours?

I don't wish injuries on them either. Hell I wish he was still their third baseman... he sucked, now they may get a real third baseman to replace him. Blast.

I wonder how many Yankee fans will say when we finally beat them this year that it is because they didn't have AARON BOONE that we beat them??? :p
 

SP33Demon

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So what is the Yanks' rotation this year? Moose, Vaz, KB, Contreras(?), White(?)? Top 3 head to head: Pedro vs Moose - toss up, KB vs Schill - I'll take Schill any day, Vaz vs Lowe - probably Vaz, Wake and BK = >Yanks final 2, mainly because Contreras has no starting exp and BK has incredible stuff (better than White) and is proven as a starter before (AZ).

Bullpen - Willy (nasty, nasty stuff), Timlin (reliable, shuts down righties), Embree (shuts down lefties), Mendoza (should retire!), Arroyo (will be good this year, sick curve), > Heredia (decent), Quantrill (good), Gordon(rebuilt everything, fragile, will be good if healthy), Karsay(disappointment last year, fragile), Prinz(still young, has potential), Lieber(rebuilt arm from Tommy John surgery last year, fragile, tough against righties when healthy). I'd give the slight edge to the Bosox because they have more playoff exp as a unit and don't get hurt as often.

Closers, Foulke vs Rivera = toss up, whoever gets ahead before the ninth will win b/c these 2 are automatic.

 

new2AMD

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What about...

Colon
Escobar
Ortiz
Washburn
Lackey

Followed by...
K-Rod
Donnelly
Percival

supported by...
Glaus
Salmon
Anderson
Guerrero
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: new2AMD
What about...

Colon
Escobar
Ortiz
Washburn
Lackey

Followed by...
K-Rod
Donnelly
Percival

supported by...
Glaus
Salmon
Anderson
Guerrero

Anaheim will be good, but still can't compete with Boston's starters or NY's. The bullpens are probably close, but with only 2 good guys in the pen they lack the depth of Yanks and Bosox. Closer (Perceival) is probably as good as the other 2, but injury prone.

Angels lineup is good but not better than Bosox (Mueller, Nomar, Manny, Millar, Ortiz, Nixon, Varitek) or Yanks IMO (Jeter, Giambi, Williams, Sheffield, Posada, Soriano).

 

kenshorin

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Here's my predictions...

AL East - Toss up between Boston and NY. The #2 team gets Wild Card. I think this is the year the Sox take em out though. :beer:

AL Central - not like it matters, because the winning team will not get beyond the ALDS. It will be close, even though the teams are weaker than the other divisions. Because of the Twins firesale, I think they will lose a few games off their final season total from last year. I think Chicago has a stronger rotation which will carry them further than last year, so I give them the edge. KC is the X factor however, if they can build on last years success.

AL West - Gotta give the Angels the edge, they did a hell of a job building. Seattle is on a continuing downward spiral, and I can see at LEAST one of Oakland's big three getting hurt (Either Hudson or Mulder... Zito's pitching style makes him a little less likely to get hurt.) They are going to lean even heavier on their rotation this year than last, and I think Mulder's injury last year was very telling of how the stress that team is putting on those guys is starting to wear on them (A stress fracture of the HIP?)

NL East - Tough to pick. I can't pick Philly even though they have a good team because Larry Bowa is a cancer. Florida may have won the WS, but they are young, so it will depend on how they respond... gotta go with Atlanta.

NL Central - Good teams in this division. the Cubs have great young pitching, but the Astros have also gotten much better in their rotation as well. One of those teams gets #1, the other one will be wild card. St Louis will be good but won't be able to compete with those two teams.

NL West - SF, all the other teams are weak.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: kenshorin
Here's my predictions...

AL East - Toss up between Boston and NY. The #2 team gets Wild Card. I think this is the year the Sox take em out though. :beer:

AL Central - not like it matters, because the winning team will not get beyond the ALDS. It will be close, even though the teams are weaker than the other divisions. Because of the Twins firesale, I think they will lose a few games off their final season total from last year. I think Chicago has a stronger rotation which will carry them further than last year, so I give them the edge. KC is the X factor however, if they can build on last years success.

AL West - Gotta give the Angels the edge, they did a hell of a job building. Seattle is on a continuing downward spiral, and I can see at LEAST one of Oakland's big three getting hurt (Either Hudson or Mulder... Zito's pitching style makes him a little less likely to get hurt.) They are going to lean even heavier on their rotation this year than last, and I think Mulder's injury last year was very telling of how the stress that team is putting on those guys is starting to wear on them (A stress fracture of the HIP?)

NL East - Tough to pick. I can't pick Philly even though they have a good team because Larry Bowa is a cancer. Florida may have won the WS, but they are young, so it will depend on how they respond... gotta go with Atlanta.

NL Central - Good teams in this division. the Cubs have great young pitching, but the Astros have also gotten much better in their rotation as well. One of those teams gets #1, the other one will be wild card. St Louis will be good but won't be able to compete with those two teams.

NL West - SF, all the other teams are weak.

I agree with all your predictions except for the NL East. The Fightin' Phils have improved so much you have to give the division to them, unless the Marlins pitching can bail them out. Look at their starters: Milton, Wolf, Padilla, Millwood, and promising young Brett Myers, who's only 23!. They have arguably the most dominating closer in the MLB in Billy Wagner, he frequently hits 100+ on the radar (watch some of Barry Bonds' at bats against him, it's not even a contest).

Their bullpen: Arguably the most effective pitcher against lefties out of the pen, Rheal Cormier, who posted a 1.70 ERA,0.93 WHIP, and 8-0 record last year. They picked up Hernandez who set up Smoltz last season for the Braves, their rivals. They got Tim Worrell from the Giants, who saved 38 games last year and will set up Wagner. Madson (23) and Hancock (25) are both wet behind the ears young guys who will try and compete for a bullpen spot as well. Telemaco is solid, and Bud Smith can get the job done as well.

Their lineup: Added Doug Glanville coming off the bench, who had some clutch hits in the playoffs last year. Resigned Rollins to keep virtually the identical lineup as last year's team, so they are comfortable with their spots in the lineup and no adjustment will be necessary.

Overall analysis: We're talking about a team who won 86 games last year, ranked 12th in offense (keep in mind FL batted 17th, and ATL 2nd in the MLB) and kept all of their batting lineup; and ranked 11th in pitching (FL 10th, ATL 12th). They gained Worrell, Wagner, and Hernandez to help their ailing bullpen. They added Milton who is a top 3 starter on most MLB teams.

FL loses Encarnacion in the OF, Derek Lee at 1st, Redman from the starting rotation, and Pudge Rodriguez. They will even lose their closer, Urbina, b/c he's a free agent as well, and the Marlins haven't even called him up yet.

The Braves have lost their starting 3B(Castilla), OF (Sheffield), 1B(Fick), and C (Lopez). They lose Hernandez (to the Phils), Mercker, Reynolds, and Marquis out of the pen... I think that's enough to dislodge them out of the top spot in the East...
 

kenshorin

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Yeah but I thought the Phils would be competetive last year too. They only managed 3rd place. In all honesty I think with the players they have there is NO WAY they shouldn't win that div. But I have learned to never underestimate the destructive force that is Bowa. Why he is still managing in that town (and in baseball in general) is beyond me. I agree though, my mind and stats say they should take it... but...
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: kenshorin
Yeah but I thought the Phils would be competetive last year too. They only managed 3rd place. In all honesty I think with the players they have there is NO WAY they shouldn't win that div. But I have learned to never underestimate the destructive force that is Bowa. Why he is still managing in that town (and in baseball in general) is beyond me. I agree though, my mind and stats say they should take it... but...

Yes, Bowa is a cancer... He is probably the only thing holding them back. This is probably because Bowa is so emotional and like a bomb about to explode when times get rough. If the Phils are winning, Bowa's good qualities will shine; but when they are losing, he doesn't facilitate the right mood in the clubhouse. The positive thing is that most of this team has already seen Bowa at his worst, so they know what to expect, and they should have a strong team unity this year. I bet that if Bowa self destructs again, management will be proactive this time and fire him mid season.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
AL Central - not like it matters, because the winning team will not get beyond the ALDS

Just like a couple of years ago, right?

It's going to be a loooong summer in MN this year. Losing AJ Pierzynski, Hawkins, Rogers, Milton, and Guardado pretty much kills Twinkie hopes of winning the division.

 

CubicZirconia

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
AL Central - not like it matters, because the winning team will not get beyond the ALDS

Just like a couple of years ago, right?

It's going to be a loooong summer in MN this year. Losing AJ Pierzynski, Hawkins, Rogers, Milton, and Guardado pretty much kills Twinkie hopes of winning the division.

I'm not saying I'd bet the farm on the twinkies winning their division; I'm only saying that crazier things have happened.