Baseball scoring question ...

[deftron]

Do all runs in game ending home runs count or just the runs needed to win the game?


Example..

Home team down 1 run in bottom of ninth two men on base
Batter hits home run ....
Do 3 runs score...
or just 2 and the game is immediately over?

 

[kranky]

They all count.

 

[CaptnKirk]

In anything EXCEPT a bases clearing home run, the first run crossing home scores the winning run, but with a home run with ANY runners on base - all runs count.

BUT - If the batter that hit the home run, or any runner ahead of that hitter misses a base on the base path, providing there are TWO outs, an appeal to a base umpire designating which runner is being apealed becomes a force out at that base.
An inning ending force out erases all runs that scored ahead of that out on the play.

Simple, huh ?

 

[Kalbi]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
In anything EXCEPT a bases clearing home run, the first run crossing home scores the winning run, but with a home run with ANY runners on base - all runs count.

BUT - If the batter that hit the home run, or any runner ahead of that hitter misses a base on the base path, providing there are TWO outs, an appeal to a base umpire designating which runner is being apealed becomes a force out at that base.
An inning ending force out erases all runs that scored ahead of that out on the play.

Simple, huh ?

*Brain Explodes*

 

[deftron]

ok ... what about this scenario...

Bottom 9th
Tie Game
Bases Loaded
Batter hits a ground rule double

One run scores or 2 ?

 

[stan394]

Originally posted by: deftron
ok ... what about this scenario...

Bottom 9th
Tie Game
Bases Loaded
Batter hits a ground rule double

One run scores or 2 ?

one, basically that would have been scored a single

EDIT: oh ground rule double.. i am not sure then. but i still believe only 1 run would have scrored. but i may be wrong

 

[stan394]

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[david46675]

Originally posted by: stan394

Originally posted by: deftron
ok ... what about this scenario...

Bottom 9th
Tie Game
Bases Loaded
Batter hits a ground rule double

One run scores or 2 ?

one, basically that would have been scored a single

EDIT: oh ground rule double.. i am not sure then. but i still believe only 1 run would have scrored. but i may be wrong

one, the first run that crosses the plate wins on anything except a homerun

 

[stan394]

Originally posted by: david46675

Originally posted by: stan394

Originally posted by: deftron
ok ... what about this scenario...

Bottom 9th
Tie Game
Bases Loaded
Batter hits a ground rule double

One run scores or 2 ?

one, basically that would have been scored a single

EDIT: oh ground rule double.. i am not sure then. but i still believe only 1 run would have scrored. but i may be wrong

one, the first run that crosses the plate wins on anything except a homerun

but that means the hit would have been scored a single. a ground-rule single...?

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: deftron
ok ... what about this scenario...

Bottom 9th
Tie Game
Bases Loaded
Batter hits a ground rule double

One run scores or 2 ?

2 runs score. The instant that ground rule double comes into effect, two runs score (provided all the base runners tag their bases)

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
In anything EXCEPT a bases clearing home run, the first run crossing home scores the winning run, but with a home run with ANY runners on base - all runs count.

BUT - If the batter that hit the home run, or any runner ahead of that hitter misses a base on the base path, providing there are TWO outs, an appeal to a base umpire designating which runner is being apealed becomes a force out at that base.
An inning ending force out erases all runs that scored ahead of that out on the play.

Simple, huh ?

But remember Robin Ventura's "grand" single in the 2000 NLCS?

 

[Tylanner]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: deftron
ok ... what about this scenario...

Bottom 9th
Tie Game
Bases Loaded
Batter hits a ground rule double

One run scores or 2 ?

2 runs score. The instant that ground rule double comes into effect, two runs score (provided all the base runners tag their bases)

Only 1 scores. I was at the MIL vs CIN game this year. Miller hit a bases juiced GR dub and we were only credited 1 run.

Click on "Top Play" Video to see the double.

This was your exact scenario FYI

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: Tylanner

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: deftron
ok ... what about this scenario...

Bottom 9th
Tie Game
Bases Loaded
Batter hits a ground rule double

One run scores or 2 ?

2 runs score. The instant that ground rule double comes into effect, two runs score (provided all the base runners tag their bases)

Only 1 scores. I was at the MIL vs CIN game this year. Miller hit a bases juiced GR dub and we were only credited 1 run.

Click on "Top Play" Video to see the double.

This was your exact scenario FYI

Ah, you're right.

 

[stan394]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: Tylanner

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: deftron
ok ... what about this scenario...

Bottom 9th
Tie Game
Bases Loaded
Batter hits a ground rule double

One run scores or 2 ?

2 runs score. The instant that ground rule double comes into effect, two runs score (provided all the base runners tag their bases)

Only 1 scores. I was at the MIL vs CIN game this year. Miller hit a bases juiced GR dub and we were only credited 1 run.

Click on "Top Play" Video to see the double.

This was your exact scenario FYI

Ah, you're right.

According to the Official Rulebook 4.11

(c) If the home team scores the winning run in its half of the ninth inning (or its half of an extra inning after a tie), the game ends immediately when the winning run is scored. EXCEPTION: If the last batter in a game hits a home run out of the playing field, the batter runner and all runners on base are permitted to score, in accordance with the base running rules, and the game ends when the batter runner touches home plate.


So 1 run scored.