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BASEBALL RUMOR MILL: ok enough is enough...Yankees to sign Maddox this week

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Originally posted by: rh71
Yankee fans... it may be fun for you, but it's ruining the game. Don't be so blind.

<-- ex-baseball fan.
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Don't you mean Texas is ruining the game? They are the ones who gave A-Rod that huge contract to begin with.

Would you have had the same feelings if the BoSox got him instead? He could have been theirs if they ponied up a few million more...

Now the Yankees traded for him with Texas paying something like $67 Million of his contract, how could you pass up such a deal? And not for nothing with the Yankees massive payroll now comes $75 million in luxury tax that goes to the small market teams. It is those teams that choose not to use the money improving their own clubs which is ruining the game.


 
Damn, Yankee's lineup puts my fantasy baseball team (last years) to shame. to SHAME!!! and i didn't even have to pay for the players

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I blame Baseball's failures on all those cheapsake owners! They ain't playing to win, they're playing to make a profit! All those billionaires being cheap, not spending on talent or letting talent go. Its so sad, they're killing the sport, they're killing my favorite team (the A's). Can someone here who's a multibillionaire buy the A's and keep the talent on the team for once? Is that too much to ask?
 
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Damn, Yankee's lineup puts my fantasy baseball team (last years) to shame. to SHAME!!! and i didn't even have to pay for the players

on another note
I blame Baseball's failures on all those cheapsake owners! They ain't playing to win, they're playing to make a profit! All those billionaires being cheap, not spending on talent or letting talent go. Its so sad, they're killing the sport, they're killing my favorite team (the A's). Can someone here who's a multibillionaire buy the A's and keep the talent on the team for once? Is that too much to ask?
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Hmmm, lets see, the last time I checked, the US is a capitalistic society, and baseball is a for profit sport. I have no doubt that every owner wants to win, but at the same time, they can only spent what they can afford. What happens if they spend beyond their means, such as the case with the Rangers, they will be crippled for years to come because of their budget contraints. For small market clubs, like twins, blue jays, they cannot compete against the Yankees money wise. But, lets not forget, it doesn't mean that they cannot be successful, just look at the As. The As have terrific talent, and management (billy beane) and they compete toe to toe with the bigger spending teams, ie Yankees, Red Sox. No matter how much the Yankees and the Red Sox spend, they still have the limitation of the number of players allowed on their team, and there are many more talented players that they cannot acquire. Look at someone like Albert Pujols. who I think is making less than a Million, and is one of the best players in baseball. In the end, the small market teams who do not have the resources have to manage differently, rather than spending freely to acquire free agents, they have to grow their team from their farm system, and attract undervalued and undiscovered talent.
 
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Damn, Yankee's lineup puts my fantasy baseball team (last years) to shame. to SHAME!!! and i didn't even have to pay for the players

on another note
I blame Baseball's failures on all those cheapsake owners! They ain't playing to win, they're playing to make a profit! All those billionaires being cheap, not spending on talent or letting talent go. Its so sad, they're killing the sport, they're killing my favorite team (the A's). Can someone here who's a multibillionaire buy the A's and keep the talent on the team for once? Is that too much to ask?
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i'm with you!

i need to inherit a gazillion dollars - i'll buy the a's first, then the sharks, and then go save the warriors. the giants have been doing fine but i'd pay off the mortage on pac bell.

then i'll spend money like a mad man. and try to get the a's a new stadium... but not become george steinbrenner... i wonder if that's avoidable..
 
Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
How does George Steinbrenner afford it? Is he some uber-rich guy who's got 200 mil to burn, or does he actually make money off the Yankees? I suppose I could google, but I'm busy and it's easier to ask here. 😛
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Simple: largest market & own broadcasting network = $$$$$$$
 
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: ElFenix
10. He isn't exactly replacing Fernando Tatis
Finally, we might want to mention something here. A-Rod is, no doubt, an upgrade over just about anybody in any team's lineup. But he's not a massive offensive upgrade over the guy he's replacing in the Yankees' lineup -- Alfonso Soriano.
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You neglect to mention that ARod will have much more protection in the lineup than Soriano did at the top. Soriano was a great player for that reason. But given ARod's situation and that always-short porch on both sides of his home field, his numbers will be much more huge than they ever were, let alone compared with Soriano's.

<-- watched only about a dozen MLB games on tv for entertainment this year and even knows that much.
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It will be harder for ARod to hit at NY than TX... that's a known fact. Plus AROD had protection in the lineup in TX, that's another known fact. He had Palmeiro/Juan Gonzo/and Blalock to protect him. Soriano stole twice as many bases, and scored significantly more runs. Like you said, this was leading off as well.

Maybe you didn't read the full article:
Soriano has more road homers (45 to 44), many more runs scored (133 to 108) and a much higher batting average (.311 to .279) than A-Rod over the last two seasons.
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Yes, Soriano's defense isn't as good as ARod's, but you're forgetting that he's 3.5 years younger as well. Not to mention that he could have played the outfield, if NY needed him to. I wouldn't exactly say that NY gained THAT much by losing the best hitting/running 2nd baseman in baseball...
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Your post reeks of homerism.
 
The YES network, the Yankees sports network made over 200 million last year.
They say that over 60% of that stays with George or goes to the Yankees (same thing).

Thats just local TV contract.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: ElFenix
10. He isn't exactly replacing Fernando Tatis
Finally, we might want to mention something here. A-Rod is, no doubt, an upgrade over just about anybody in any team's lineup. But he's not a massive offensive upgrade over the guy he's replacing in the Yankees' lineup -- Alfonso Soriano.
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You neglect to mention that ARod will have much more protection in the lineup than Soriano did at the top. Soriano was a great player for that reason. But given ARod's situation and that always-short porch on both sides of his home field, his numbers will be much more huge than they ever were, let alone compared with Soriano's.

<-- watched only about a dozen MLB games on tv for entertainment this year and even knows that much.
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It will be harder for ARod to hit at NY than TX... that's a known fact.
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I hardly think that's a known fact... if you're banking on pressure alone to take this guy's numbers down... that ain't happening based on any known facts. Do you actually doubt ARod's numbers will be astronomical - above what he's already done ? I certainly don't doubt it. I'll bet those short porches at the Stadium will help his numbers significantly.

There's no doubt the Yanks lost out on a good all-around player. But you're making this out to be an even trade, based on past numbers. Hmmm... ARod in Yankee Stadium with all those other good players getting on base for him, protecting him, etc... yeah his numbers will be up there. WayTF up there. I don't see the press or fans exactly upset about losing Alfonso, only to have some guy named ARod coming here.
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TX is the best hitter's park in the AL.
 
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Damn, Yankee's lineup puts my fantasy baseball team (last years) to shame. to SHAME!!! and i didn't even have to pay for the players

on another note
I blame Baseball's failures on all those cheapsake owners! They ain't playing to win, they're playing to make a profit! All those billionaires being cheap, not spending on talent or letting talent go. Its so sad, they're killing the sport, they're killing my favorite team (the A's). Can someone here who's a multibillionaire buy the A's and keep the talent on the team for once? Is that too much to ask?
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You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Steinbrenner doesn't use his personal fortune. Neither does any other owner. The A's would spend more if they consistently got more revenue.

Trust me - if a multibillionaire bought the A's, he wouldn't throw $100 million of his savings just for the payroll.
 
Originally posted by: Ynog
The YES network, the Yankees sports network made over 200 million last year.
They say that over 60% of that stays with George or goes to the Yankees (same thing).

Thats just local TV contract.
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That's one of the main reasons why small market teams will never be able to compete in terms of payroll. Even the Mets earned somewhere around $60-65 million a couple of years ago off their TV contract - and they don't even own their own network. Their contract is expiring soon, too...

I'm not even sure if the Brewers got $10 million.
 
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Damn, Yankee's lineup puts my fantasy baseball team (last years) to shame. to SHAME!!! and i didn't even have to pay for the players

on another note
I blame Baseball's failures on all those cheapsake owners! They ain't playing to win, they're playing to make a profit! All those billionaires being cheap, not spending on talent or letting talent go. Its so sad, they're killing the sport, they're killing my favorite team (the A's). Can someone here who's a multibillionaire buy the A's and keep the talent on the team for once? Is that too much to ask?
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You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Steinbrenner doesn't use his personal fortune. Neither does any other owner. The A's would spend more if they consistently got more revenue.

Trust me - if a multibillionaire bought the A's, he wouldn't throw $100 million of his savings just for the payroll.
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I would if I were one, sadly I'm not. But I think there are examples of people in real life who spend their own money on teams, although maybe not in baseball. Mark Cuban comes to mind. Also a Russian billionaire just recently spent 100 million of his own money in buying players for his soccer team Chelsea over in England. I'm just asking for someone like that to come buy the A's.
 
Wait, people are upset that Maddox may sign with the Yankees? I would think this would be a blessing to the anti-Yankees out there. Maddox is at a point in his career where he is lucky to make it through 6 innings! He regularly got rocked in the first inning the last couple of years before he calmed down. The only problem was that he only had a couple of good innings before he started struggling again late in the fifth inning.

Go on, let the Yankees pay for Maddox. Everyone else should be happy that they get him. It will put a big strain on their bullpen.
 
Yankees play in a huge market. market = spending money ...

unfortunately, the A's are in a small market and can't do much with the money they have.
 
Steinbrenner must die

My dream would be this year game 7 of the ALCS when the Red Sox are celebrating their victory over the Spankes. Just have George keep over from a heart attack

Does that sound mean?
 
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