Barton vs. Venice

[Scouzer]

gaming, surfing the internet, music

 

[bupkus]

Originally posted by: Scouzer
gaming, surfing the internet, music

Ok, then. Will you be doing any of these things concurrently? Will you be ripping a music cd while gaming? These questions relate to the dual core question.

Yah... gaming can be expensive on the video end depending on what you play, the resolution you play in and the extent of AA, etc. However, with most games today the cpu is incidental but don't take this statement to mean you can use an aging cpu like a Barton to properly drive a modern video card. I'm just saying that you may not need a dual core cpu if you can employ a venice at 1/3 the price. As always, most gaming is best served with putting your money into a better gpu rather than going lite there and investing in a muscle bound cpu.
Good luck.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: bupkus

Originally posted by: Scouzer
gaming, surfing the internet, music

Ok, then. Will you be doing any of these things concurrently? Will you be ripping a music cd while gaming? These questions relate to the dual core question.

Yah... gaming can be expensive on the video end depending on what you play, the resolution you play in and the extent of AA, etc. However, with most games today the cpu is incidental but don't take this statement to mean you can use an aging cpu like a Barton to properly drive a modern video card. I'm just saying that you may not need a dual core cpu if you can employ a venice at 1/3 the price. As always, most gaming is best served with putting your money into a better gpu rather than going lite there and investing in a muscle bound cpu.
Good luck.

Yeah, don't end up like me, Dual core@ 2.6 and a 9800 pro! But its like zebo says, my clawhammer was about 20% faster than my brother's mobile barton, with same ammount of ram, same GPU, etc.


And Gotta love THG. Constantly plugging Intel. "AMD Platform woes". WTF is that sh1t.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: bupkus

Originally posted by: Scouzer
gaming, surfing the internet, music

Ok, then. Will you be doing any of these things concurrently? Will you be ripping a music cd while gaming? These questions relate to the dual core question.

Yah... gaming can be expensive on the video end depending on what you play, the resolution you play in and the extent of AA, etc. However, with most games today the cpu is incidental but don't take this statement to mean you can use an aging cpu like a Barton to properly drive a modern video card. I'm just saying that you may not need a dual core cpu if you can employ a venice at 1/3 the price. As always, most gaming is best served with putting your money into a better gpu rather than going lite there and investing in a muscle bound cpu.
Good luck.

Yeah, don't end up like me, Dual core@ 2.6 and a 9800 pro! But its like zebo says, my clawhammer was about 20% faster than my brother's mobile barton, with same ammount of ram, same GPU, etc.


And Gotta love THG. Constantly plugging Intel. "AMD Platform woes". WTF is that sh1t.

After that disaster on the 7day stress test I still go their but I never read anything CPU related. I still can't believe that with the disparity on the AMD and Intel front, that they actually thought that they could down play the Intel issues and then make a big deal about a single shutdown issue (after being on for 7 days without rest stomping on the Intel in both accomplished tasks and reliability (never going down unless they turned it off when they restarted the tests) it wouldn't shut down without forcing it, which was more windows related then platform related.) and still think that they were being 100% impartial and fair.

And this is from a person That loved Toms and tried to defend them in here and on their forum (which I absolutely won't post on now).

 

[bupkus]

Originally posted by: Topweasel



After that disaster on the 7day stress test I still go their but I never read anything CPU related. I still can't believe that with the disparity on the AMD and Intel front, that they actually thought that they could down play the Intel issues and then make a big deal about a single shutdown issue (after being on for 7 days without rest stomping on the Intel in both accomplished tasks and reliability (never going down unless they turned it off when they restarted the tests) it wouldn't shut down without forcing it, which was more windows related then platform related.) and still think that they were being 100% impartial and fair.

And this is from a person That loved Toms and tried to defend them in here and on their forum (which I absolutely won't post on now).

BTW, just about 1 week ago my pc started hanging on shutdown. Hehehe. Ok, yah, it's really true.

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: bupkus

Originally posted by: Scouzer
gaming, surfing the internet, music

Ok, then. Will you be doing any of these things concurrently? Will you be ripping a music cd while gaming? These questions relate to the dual core question.

Yah... gaming can be expensive on the video end depending on what you play, the resolution you play in and the extent of AA, etc. However, with most games today the cpu is incidental but don't take this statement to mean you can use an aging cpu like a Barton to properly drive a modern video card. I'm just saying that you may not need a dual core cpu if you can employ a venice at 1/3 the price. As always, most gaming is best served with putting your money into a better gpu rather than going lite there and investing in a muscle bound cpu.
Good luck.

nope...i do one thing at a time, except surf the net with lots of windows and listen to music, of which neither are intensive enough to justify 2 cpu's i dont think!

now just to decide between a 3000+ Venice and 2ghz Pentium-M

 

[wseyller]

Originally posted by: Scouzer
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=14984

I just thought heat would be a big issue...and I don't want a loud system!

heat would be more of an issue with the barton then the venice would be. The A64's are more efficient than the K7's when it comes to heat.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: Killmenow

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
X2 3800+ vs. Venice 3500+ vs. Barton XP3200+

This chart shows the 3200+ Barton almost at the bottom of the list.....with even a P4 2.60Ghz Northwood beating it. Is the 3200+ Barton really that bad?

Damn, my rig is low-end now.

 

[noluckjim]

Originally posted by: Scouzer
I would, but I probably wouldn't be able to a whole lot, since it'll be a SFF..

Who says you can't OC in a SFF? I have a 3000+ running at 2.52GHz on a very low fan speed (~1000rpm, 92mm). Could probably do more but the BIOS has a HTT limit of 280

The Aspire you're looking at should run cool and very quiet with the 120mm fan. Also, heat isn't nearly as big an issue as the old bartons. The A64s run VERY cool.

 

[bupkus]

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: bupkus

Originally posted by: Scouzer
gaming, surfing the internet, music

Ok, then. Will you be doing any of these things concurrently? Will you be ripping a music cd while gaming? These questions relate to the dual core question.

Yah... gaming can be expensive on the video end depending on what you play, the resolution you play in and the extent of AA, etc. However, with most games today the cpu is incidental but don't take this statement to mean you can use an aging cpu like a Barton to properly drive a modern video card. I'm just saying that you may not need a dual core cpu if you can employ a venice at 1/3 the price. As always, most gaming is best served with putting your money into a better gpu rather than going lite there and investing in a muscle bound cpu.
Good luck.

nope...i do one thing at a time, except surf the net with lots of windows and listen to music, of which neither are intensive enough to justify 2 cpu's i dont think!

now just to decide between a 3000+ Venice and 2ghz Pentium-M

Well, then, take a look at this. I posted this to someone looking for an inexpensive pc.




Here's my current "budget" pc:
Case: Inwin J350FU2D(IW-V500T) $48.50 shipping: $15.99 (Newegg)... very durable w/ good cooling
Mobo: BIOSTAR 6100-M7.............$59.99 shipping: $ 4.99 (NE) .......... sweet price and IGP
CPU: AMD Sempron 64 2600+......$64.00 shipping: $ 2.99 (NE) ..........64-bit ready
Memory: VS512MB400(Corsair)....$36.50 shipping: $ 4.81 (NE) ..........Get Kingston if preferred
Hard drive:IDE Seagate on rebate.$40.00 (Circuit City or wherever, whatever available)...snag a weekly sale
Video... IGP, see Mobo 6100 above $0.0.......... Good enough for light gaming
OS: MS WIN XP HOME....................$87.95 (NE) Purchase with hardware ONLY
Keyboard: Logitech(967457-0403) ..$16.00 shipping: $6.99 (NE) includes optical mouse
NEC DVDRW(ND-3550A BG OEM)....$38.99 ship: $0 (NE)
OpenOffice 2.0 free download
Total.............................................$427.70

 

[Scouzer]

nah, im not looking for a low end computer, i just critically need portability.

im deciding mostly between about $1000 on a SFF or $1500 on an asus 70va lappy