barton 2500+ --> AMD 64bit?

[felony]

I am guessing you guys get this question often, so I did a quick search, but found nothing that really pertains to my questions.

I currently am running a barton 2500+ that OCs nicely @ 2.2ghz, though I rarely run it there. I have a asus mobo, and a gig of ram, and a 6600gt AGP.

I play games often, and hard and am very interested in a switch a 939 socket 64bit AMD processor, in paticular a winnie/venice around 3000-3500+. This of course means a new mobo, and prolly a new 6600gt PCIe.

How much of a performance gain is there by making this switch? I play some fairly resource intense games such as CSS and fs2004, but am on a budget obviously. Games run decent now, but would like something better.....

Is it worth it? Should I wait for something else? Any suggestions?

thanks
dan

 

[BobDaMenkey]

I'd wait a bit more personally. If you run it OCed at 2.2ghz, you're really really close in performance to a 3200+. I'm only 10-15fps behind my friends setup, and the only difference is the mobo/cpu (I'm in my sig, he's got a 3200+ on an MSI Neo Platnum 2). In benchmarking there isn't much of a difference between our systems. It's noticable, and very measureable, but for about $300, I'm willing to let it stay that way. In the real world, there isn't much of a difference at all.

It'd be somewhat noticable. The question is, is the money spent on it going to be worth it to you for an extra 10-20fps in most games? If you want to spend the money, go for it. But personally I can't justify the move right now, as I have better things to spend my money on, and it's not that big of a gap to me.

 

[felony]

thats what i figured.

well i guess that answered that.

when are prices expected to drop some? around end of summer perhaps?

thankls
dan

 

[Vegitto]

I think when the Toledo core set comes out (mid June, I believe) the prices will drop, but not by much.

 

[clarkey01]

Id say on par with athlon 64 2800+


There sums out there but Im not too sure on the conversions, Zeboooooooooooooo

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: clarkey01
Id say on par with athlon 64 2800+


There sums out there but Im not too sure on the conversions, Zeboooooooooooooo

Actualy I think it's a bit slower than even a 2800+.
A move to a 3200+ or 3000+ and overclocking it will almost certainly give you a 25% increase in games which are CPU bound.

 

[mrc777]

axp3200<a642800 in majority of benchmarks by about 5%...so i guess upgrading to a 3000 would give about 5-10% improvement and to a 3500 a 15-20% improvement...

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: mrc777
axp3200<a642800 in majority of benchmarks by about 5%...so i guess upgrading to a 3000 would give about 5-10% improvement and to a 3500 a 15-20% improvement...

That's true, but is that worth the price of a new motherboard, new processor, possibly new RAM and videocard to you?

 

[Thorny]

at your oc'd speeds, your running exactly on par with xp3200+ right now. Unless you've got a lot to spend on a new system, save your money.

 

[felony]

wow, seems like I should just stay put.

I guess end of the summer will be an upgrade time for me, maybe later?

for now I guess it will be some more ram, a new HDD or so, dvd burner

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: mrc777
axp3200<a642800 in majority of benchmarks by about 5%...so i guess upgrading to a 3000 would give about 5-10% improvement and to a 3500 a 15-20% improvement...

I think his CPU is overclcoked to 2.2 ( same as the 3200+AXP) so a little slower then a A64 2800+.

 

[Duvie]

I agree a little slower then the 2.2ghz 3200+ Xp...however!!! sionce he says he doesn't always reside there and the fact he seems willing to OC...I say get a 3200+ venice and clock it to 2.4ghz or about equivalent to a 3800+ venice and be very damn noticeable (~33+% faster)....get lucky OC further.....

 

[3Aims]

Thorny169,

Why are you using my heatware id in your profile?

 

[Leper Messiah]

there's a big difference! You are most likely CPU bound very often with such a powerful GPU. Get a venice, OC the hell out of it, and you'll wonder what took you so long to get the k8...

 

[superkdogg]

You're most likely CPU bound right now. However, I've always said if you can play the games you like at the resolutions that you want to you don't need to upgrade. It's totally a personal choice until the moment that you buy a game and can't play it at a resolution that's acceptable to you.