Are you really that dumb or are you just trolling? If you truly believe what you wrote, you should do the gene pool a favor and jump off a high building.
Are you really that dumb or are you just trolling? If you truly believe what you wrote, you should do the gene pool a favor and jump off a high building.
Don Vito Corleone
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There's a difference between defending someone on the basis that there is insufficient evidence to convict and defending them on the basis that their conduct is not criminal, even if the elements are met. Mitigating circumstances are normally an issue for sentencing, not findings.
Well, I'm tired of legalese and procedural discussions. Everything I've said is out there because I'm talking about what happens when people get fed up. It's extreme because I'm the Devil's Advocate here and some people have a hard time understanding the phrase "fed up". Riots are rare events in American society. They don't happen because people are simply unhappy. They happen because people are fed up.
Like I said in the beginning, these discussions are academic. But the people of California will know their fate if they don't reach the right verdict.
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They're fed up after one guy got killed? Cases such as these do not happen every day and you know it, no matter what the race baiters and anti-cop brigade says. Regardless of his excuses, there was pretty much no doubt he was going to be arrested after an investigation.
I'm shaking up here in my Anaheim Hills house.....
What will the people of CA do????? Oh no! :laugh:
I doubt there will be any riots but I wanted to argue the merits of a riot. Besides, with a Democratic President in the White House (a black President, no doubt), riots won't be necessary this go-around. All the cards are in place for a rightous verdict and peaceful outcome.
Don Vito Corleone
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You really don't have a clue, do you? The partisan affiliation and race of the POTUS are as relevant to an assistant DA in Oakland as the partisan affiliation and race of the President of Iceland.
It seems inevitable to me that this case will not lead to "a righteous verdict," if what you are calling for is a murder conviction. The only righteous verdict here appears to be manslaughter.
Don't put words into my mouth. The POTUS being Democratic means Federal charges can swoop down on this police officer faster than he can say "donut" if things didn't go well locally.
And I never told you what I saw as a rightous verdict. For a lawyer, I thought you'd see the beauty of how I worded my statements. Tsk tsk.
Don Vito Corleone
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The last President to oversee an analogous situation, as you have repeatedly observed, was a white Republican.
I see nothing "beautiful" in anything you've written. I see you as a penny-ante "rebel" pissant who risks exactly zero for his stupid, pie-in-the-sky views. Gandhi and MLK had been as stupid as you this world would be a far worse place today.
That was my point, genius. It took riots for GHWB to pay attention.
Oh, and thanks for comparing me to Gandhi and MLK, but I was born on Malcolm X's birthday. Furthermore, no need to get anxious about my coming out party. When it happens, you'll know.
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I think they should set up razor somewhere out in the country. Then the National Guard should be called up by the tens of thousands and establish a presence in Oakland. Have the trial, and if there are riots go in and round up every perpetrator and put them in said compound. Give them a trial (of course it may take some time before everyone gets their day in front of a judge). If there are more violent protests rinse and repeat. If there are 50 thousand locked up, so be it. It's about time people learn they aren't "special".
Well, I agree that's a likely outcome, but isn't the officer white? The victim is black. Hate crime? He might get more time if a jury thinks it was racially motivated. Oh, wait, what am I thinking? If the Motion for a Change of Venue is denied, he will serve the rest of his life in prison.
I wonder what his qualifications for this post are? How much training did he get from BART? How many prior complaints against him for excessive use of force? Ad nauseam.
The civil lawsuit against BART will be a doozy.
-Robert
Defenses?
1. PTSD (He's an ex-Marine?)
2. Temporary Insanity? Is that viable in Cali?
3. Improper training, too many working hours, bad equipment. (He meant to pull his Taser.)
4. Self-defense. The guy reached in his pocket, and his erection looked like a snub nosed 38 special.
(We won't ask why decedent had an erection....)
5. Too many donuts sent his blood sugar raging, and he lost consciousness and control. The chocolate chip cookie defense!
6. His anti-psychotic medication which he forgot to tell BART about needed tweaking.
7. It was Obama's fault. Elect a black man as Prez and this is what happens.
And so many more in the hands of a truly creative defense lawyer.
-Robert
1. PTSD (He's an ex-Marine?)
2. Temporary Insanity? Is that viable in Cali?
3. Improper training, too many working hours, bad equipment. (He meant to pull his Taser.)
4. Self-defense. The guy reached in his pocket, and his erection looked like a snub nosed 38 special.
(We won't ask why decedent had an erection....)5. Too many donuts sent his blood sugar raging, and he lost consciousness and control. The chocolate chip cookie defense!
6. His anti-psychotic medication which he forgot to tell BART about needed tweaking.
7. It was Obama's fault. Elect a black man as Prez and this is what happens.
And so many more in the hands of a truly creative defense lawyer.
-Robert
If you can show me how it'd be great considering I never came around to his way of thinking. Furthermore, he didn't even answer the very last question I posed. Perhaps it hit too close to home?
Yeah, it's a problem for people when they can't even convince me of their arguments. What's really sad is that I can just as easily take up their position and provide a much better argument.
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