'Barnstorming' Obama To Pick -Republicans- For Cabinet Positions

[Pabster]

Story here.

Sounds good. And definitely a way to express change. I disagree with Hagel on various issues and I've never been a huge fan of Lugar but putting a few Republicans in cabinet positions or what not is something Hillary could never do.

 

[Rainsford]

Am I the only person who thinks Obama must have been a big fan of The West Wing? He's a minority candidate with not too much experience but a ton of personality and vision and a real desire for change...not to mention his ability to pull in moderates and even conservatives. If he beats McCain, is he going to nominate McCain for Secretary of State? 😉

Seriously though, I think the fact that people are so down on what Obama is trying to do is proof enough that it's worth doing. People always SAY they want something different, but what they really want is the same old bullshit with a fresh coat of paint. Well here, for the first time in a long time, is a candidate who really seems interested in not just being the same kind of President we've had in one form or another for my whole life, and probably longer.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Am I the only person who thinks Obama must have been a big fan of The West Wing? He's a minority candidate with not too much experience but a ton of personality and vision and a real desire for change...not to mention his ability to pull in moderates and even conservatives. If he beats McCain, is he going to nominate McCain for Secretary of State? 😉

Seriously though, I think the fact that people are so down on what Obama is trying to do is proof enough that it's worth doing. People always SAY they want something different, but what they really want is the same old bullshit with a fresh coat of paint. Well here, for the first time in a long time, is a candidate who really seems interested in not just being the same kind of President we've had in one form or another for my whole life, and probably longer.

You're just crazed.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Well here, for the first time in a long time, is a candidate who really seems interested in not just being the same kind of President we've had in one form or another for my whole life, and probably longer.

I want to like Obama, despite however Moonbeam's going to frame me as some molested kid who grew up into a hateful adult that wants to pillage anything different that comes along. I actually agree with him on most issues, at least insofar as Obama can be pinned down to have possibly believable positions (the war in Iraq is my one major asterix... I can't tell if he's just pandering when he talks about getting out of dodge or if he's really that short-sighted)

I just have trouble reconciling the rhetoric with the record. How can he really tout change when the only thing different about him is the color of his skin? He's voted solidly in lockstep with the democrats in his entire time in congress, and I can't really recall any time he's stood his ground on the national stage and challenged his own party with a differing position on something.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Well here, for the first time in a long time, is a candidate who really seems interested in not just being the same kind of President we've had in one form or another for my whole life, and probably longer.

I want to like Obama, despite however Moonbeam's going to frame me as some molested kid who grew up into a hateful adult that wants to pillage anything different that comes along. I actually agree with him on most issues, at least insofar as Obama can be pinned down to have possibly believable positions (the war in Iraq is my one major asterix... I can't tell if he's just pandering when he talks about getting out of dodge or if he's really that short-sighted)

I just have trouble reconciling the rhetoric with the record. How can he really tout change when the only thing different about him is the color of his skin? He's voted solidly in lockstep with the democrats in his entire time in congress, and I can't really recall any time he's stood his ground on the national stage and challenged his own party with a differing position on something.

Well I heard somewhere on the radio an analysis of Obama I found rather interesting, probably Mark Shields on the Lehrer News Hour. He contrasted the difference in the kind of change represented by Obama and Hillary. Obama is a bottom up activist who sees change propelled from the people whereas Hillary is a get all the smart people in the room to decide what to do and push that from the top down. Obama is like the internet an organization built up on connections, the way people under 40 live today, and Hillary is the age old kind of change, you get told what to do. When you look at our problems, the special interests that suck all the oxygen out of any change, you may agree that real change, big change, fundamental change, change that benefits the people, will only happen if people want it to. I see Obama as the best chance for anything real. I don't have to suspend judgment or join a cult. I see a difference in approach, one I support. Who knows if Obama can pull off something real. I do believe, however, that all the others in the race are more of the same top down worthless crap we have had for years and years.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Obama is like the internet an organization built up on connections, the way people under 40 live today, and Hillary is the age old kind of change, you get told what to do.

What an accurate description. :thumbsup:

Who knows if Obama can pull off something real. I do believe, however, that all the others in the race are more of the same top down worthless crap we have had for years and years.

If he can pull off even a fraction of it, he'll be better than any of the alternatives.

And QFT on the bolded passage.

 

[palehorse]

just one more reason to love the guy... :thumbsup:

 

[Dari]

Hillary would be right at home in a Politburo. Has anyone seen all the summits she's promised since starting this race to be President? She even promised a water summit and held an "economic solution" summit last week. It reeks of communism and a centralist government.

 

[Uhtrinity]

It's about time we have someone who is willing to work with the other side. The biggest thing I have hated over the last 7 years besides Bushes bumbling is the whole you are with us or against us attitude. The Republicans have refused to work at all with the Democrats, then here comes Obama, a Democrat, who is considering Republicans in his cabinet. :thumbsup:

The second thing I respect, and this reminds me of Reagan not that I actually liked all of his policies. Whenever Reagan gave speeches it was about us, as Americans, and what we could accomplish. You watch Bush and it all about him, and what he will do, and how he is the decider. Obama seems to have the attitude, that it is about the people and not Obama.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Am I the only person who thinks Obama must have been a big fan of The West Wing? He's a minority candidate with not too much experience but a ton of personality and vision and a real desire for change...not to mention his ability to pull in moderates and even conservatives. If he beats McCain, is he going to nominate McCain for Secretary of State? 😉

Seriously though, I think the fact that people are so down on what Obama is trying to do is proof enough that it's worth doing. People always SAY they want something different, but what they really want is the same old bullshit with a fresh coat of paint. Well here, for the first time in a long time, is a candidate who really seems interested in not just being the same kind of President we've had in one form or another for my whole life, and probably longer.

Actually the West Wing's writers have specifically stated they modeled their presidential candidate after Obama, not the other way around.. haha.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
just one more reason to love the guy... :thumbsup:

I suppose it would be for those that buy that line of BS. He's not going to pick Republicans for cabinet positions. It's nothing but election rhetoric to position himself againse Hilary.

But hey, it might be a good stategy if he actually gets elected. He could change the shape of the Senate by picking the "right" Republicans.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: palehorse74
just one more reason to love the guy... :thumbsup:

I suppose it would be for those that buy that line of BS. He's not going to pick Republicans for cabinet positions. It's nothing but election rhetoric to position himself againse Hilary.

But hey, it might be a good stategy if he actually gets elected. He could change the shape of the Senate by picking the "right" Republicans.

The "right" republicans like "Brownie", Alberto "I don't remember" Gonzalez, Harriet "Supreme Court Justice Wannabe" Miers, the Justice department hires from that 4th rate law school Regeant University, or the various other unqualified cronies that Bush hired into government?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: palehorse74
just one more reason to love the guy... :thumbsup:

I suppose it would be for those that buy that line of BS. He's not going to pick Republicans for cabinet positions. It's nothing but election rhetoric to position himself againse Hilary.

But hey, it might be a good stategy if he actually gets elected. He could change the shape of the Senate by picking the "right" Republicans.

The "right" republicans like "Brownie", Alberto "I don't remember" Gonzalez, Harriet "Supreme Court Justice Wannabe" Miers, the Justice department hires from that 4th rate law school Regeant University, or the various other unqualified cronies that Bush hired into government?

You must have forgotten to read my post. Try again. "right" had to do with strategy and nothing to do with your trolling about "unqualified".

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: palehorse74
just one more reason to love the guy... :thumbsup:

I suppose it would be for those that buy that line of BS. He's not going to pick Republicans for cabinet positions. It's nothing but election rhetoric to position himself againse Hilary.

But hey, it might be a good stategy if he actually gets elected. He could change the shape of the Senate by picking the "right" Republicans.

Why wouldn't he pick Republicans? Clinton picked a Republican to be his secretary of defense. What are you basing your argument on that its just rhetoric?

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: palehorse74
just one more reason to love the guy... :thumbsup:

I suppose it would be for those that buy that line of BS. He's not going to pick Republicans for cabinet positions. It's nothing but election rhetoric to position himself againse Hilary.

But hey, it might be a good stategy if he actually gets elected. He could change the shape of the Senate by picking the "right" Republicans.

Why wouldn't he pick Republicans? Clinton picked a Republican to be his secretary of defense. What are you basing your argument on that its just rhetoric?

Because CSG is a political hack who eats up the party line all the time.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: palehorse74
just one more reason to love the guy... :thumbsup:

I suppose it would be for those that buy that line of BS. He's not going to pick Republicans for cabinet positions. It's nothing but election rhetoric to position himself againse Hilary.

But hey, it might be a good stategy if he actually gets elected. He could change the shape of the Senate by picking the "right" Republicans.

Why wouldn't he pick Republicans? Clinton picked a Republican to be his secretary of defense. What are you basing your argument on that its just rhetoric?

Uhh, because BHO is a Liberal and inexperienced. Why would he fill cabinet positions with people of opposite ideology when he needs their guidance? It makes little sense except when you throw in the election politics of it. He needs to continue to play the "change" cards to distinguish himself from Hilary.

Are you people really that naive to think this is REAL? Sheesh. I swear some of you will fall for anything coming from BH "the messiah" O .

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: palehorse74
just one more reason to love the guy... :thumbsup:

I suppose it would be for those that buy that line of BS. He's not going to pick Republicans for cabinet positions. It's nothing but election rhetoric to position himself againse Hilary.

But hey, it might be a good stategy if he actually gets elected. He could change the shape of the Senate by picking the "right" Republicans.

Why wouldn't he pick Republicans? Clinton picked a Republican to be his secretary of defense. What are you basing your argument on that its just rhetoric?

Because CSG is a political hack who eats up the party line all the time.

Uh, wrong. I'm a Conservative first - Republican second so try again.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Uhh, because BHO is a Liberal and inexperienced. Why would he fill cabinet positions with people of opposite ideology when he needs their guidance? It makes little sense except when you throw in the election politics of it. He needs to continue to play the "change" cards to distinguish himself from Hilary.

Are you people really that naive to think this is REAL? Sheesh. I swear some of you will fall for anything coming from BH "the messiah" O .

Ah ha, so in other words he wouldn't pick any Republicans for his cabinet because you say so. Gotcha.

On one hand we have the word of a politician, (not so good) and on the other hand we have the opinion of an acknowledged internet extreme right wing hack. Sadly enough I have to go with the politician.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: palehorse74
just one more reason to love the guy... :thumbsup:

I suppose it would be for those that buy that line of BS. He's not going to pick Republicans for cabinet positions. It's nothing but election rhetoric to position himself againse Hilary.

But hey, it might be a good stategy if he actually gets elected. He could change the shape of the Senate by picking the "right" Republicans.

Why wouldn't he pick Republicans? Clinton picked a Republican to be his secretary of defense. What are you basing your argument on that its just rhetoric?

Uhh, because BHO is a Liberal and inexperienced. Why would he fill cabinet positions with people of opposite ideology when he needs their guidance? It makes little sense except when you throw in the election politics of it. He needs to continue to play the "change" cards to distinguish himself from Hilary.

Are you people really that naive to think this is REAL? Sheesh. I swear some of you will fall for anything coming from BH "the messiah" O .

Your post makes no sense. If the guy is trying to rise above partisan politics, why wouldn't he pick Republicans?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: palehorse74
just one more reason to love the guy... :thumbsup:

I suppose it would be for those that buy that line of BS. He's not going to pick Republicans for cabinet positions. It's nothing but election rhetoric to position himself againse Hilary.

But hey, it might be a good stategy if he actually gets elected. He could change the shape of the Senate by picking the "right" Republicans.

Why wouldn't he pick Republicans? Clinton picked a Republican to be his secretary of defense. What are you basing your argument on that its just rhetoric?

Uhh, because BHO is a Liberal and inexperienced. Why would he fill cabinet positions with people of opposite ideology when he needs their guidance? It makes little sense except when you throw in the election politics of it. He needs to continue to play the "change" cards to distinguish himself from Hilary.

Are you people really that naive to think this is REAL? Sheesh. I swear some of you will fall for anything coming from BH "the messiah" O .

Your post makes no sense. If the guy is trying to rise above partisan politics, why wouldn't he pick Republicans?

That's the point - I think it's BS. Political rhetoric. Election year politiciing. It's nothing new, except this guy - the "messiah" is getting a free pass on this so-called bi-partisanship stuff. IMO ofcourse. 🙂

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: palehorse74
just one more reason to love the guy... :thumbsup:

I suppose it would be for those that buy that line of BS. He's not going to pick Republicans for cabinet positions. It's nothing but election rhetoric to position himself againse Hilary.

But hey, it might be a good stategy if he actually gets elected. He could change the shape of the Senate by picking the "right" Republicans.

Why wouldn't he pick Republicans? Clinton picked a Republican to be his secretary of defense. What are you basing your argument on that its just rhetoric?

Uhh, because BHO is a Liberal and inexperienced. Why would he fill cabinet positions with people of opposite ideology when he needs their guidance? It makes little sense except when you throw in the election politics of it. He needs to continue to play the "change" cards to distinguish himself from Hilary.

Are you people really that naive to think this is REAL? Sheesh. I swear some of you will fall for anything coming from BH "the messiah" O .

Your post makes no sense. If the guy is trying to rise above partisan politics, why wouldn't he pick Republicans?

That's the point - I think it's BS. Political rhetoric. Election year politiciing. It's nothing new, except this guy - the "messiah" is getting a free pass on this so-called bi-partisanship stuff. IMO ofcourse. 🙂

That's a rather depressing thought. To think that someone trying to rise above partisan politics is bullshit doesn't bode well for this country. IMHO, I think he's sincere. There are quite a lot of Democrats and Republicans that want to get above this rhetoric and I think America stands behind them. Look at what happened in 2006, where we got a lot of moderates into congress.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Uhh, because BHO is a Liberal and inexperienced. Why would he fill cabinet positions with people of opposite ideology when he needs their guidance? It makes little sense except when you throw in the election politics of it. He needs to continue to play the "change" cards to distinguish himself from Hilary.

Are you people really that naive to think this is REAL? Sheesh. I swear some of you will fall for anything coming from BH "the messiah" O .

Ah ha, so in other words he wouldn't pick any Republicans for his cabinet because you say so. Gotcha.

On one hand we have the word of a politician, (not so good) and on the other hand we have the opinion of an acknowledged internet extreme right wing hack. Sadly enough I have to go with the politician.

Go ahead and buy into the "messiah's" rhetoric - just don't play the spinster when we come back to this when he doesn't follow through with his election year promises.

I think it's rather sad how far people have fallen for this guy. An unproven populist who has stated very little on his actual positions. Pretty naive of people if you ask me...

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Uhh, because BHO is a Liberal and inexperienced. Why would he fill cabinet positions with people of opposite ideology when he needs their guidance? It makes little sense except when you throw in the election politics of it. He needs to continue to play the "change" cards to distinguish himself from Hilary.

Are you people really that naive to think this is REAL? Sheesh. I swear some of you will fall for anything coming from BH "the messiah" O .

Ah ha, so in other words he wouldn't pick any Republicans for his cabinet because you say so. Gotcha.

On one hand we have the word of a politician, (not so good) and on the other hand we have the opinion of an acknowledged internet extreme right wing hack. Sadly enough I have to go with the politician.

Go ahead and buy into the "messiah's" rhetoric - just don't play the spinster when we come back to this when he doesn't follow through with his election year promises.

I think it's rather sad how far people have fallen for this guy. An unproven populist who has stated very little on his actual positions. Pretty naive of people if you ask me...

You calling him a "messiah" seems like more of your projection of him onto him, which is a good thing. Deep down you probably think he's the real deal.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Uhh, because BHO is a Liberal and inexperienced. Why would he fill cabinet positions with people of opposite ideology when he needs their guidance? It makes little sense except when you throw in the election politics of it. He needs to continue to play the "change" cards to distinguish himself from Hilary.

Are you people really that naive to think this is REAL? Sheesh. I swear some of you will fall for anything coming from BH "the messiah" O .

Ah ha, so in other words he wouldn't pick any Republicans for his cabinet because you say so. Gotcha.

On one hand we have the word of a politician, (not so good) and on the other hand we have the opinion of an acknowledged internet extreme right wing hack. Sadly enough I have to go with the politician.

Go ahead and buy into the "messiah's" rhetoric - just don't play the spinster when we come back to this when he doesn't follow through with his election year promises.

I think it's rather sad how far people have fallen for this guy. An unproven populist who has stated very little on his actual positions. Pretty naive of people if you ask me...

You calling him a "messiah" seems like more of your projection of him onto him, which is a good thing. Deep down you probably think he's the real deal.

No, it's me mocking the MSM/others and how they've swooned over him.

I don't personally believe much of anything he's been spouting.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Uhh, because BHO is a Liberal and inexperienced. Why would he fill cabinet positions with people of opposite ideology when he needs their guidance? It makes little sense except when you throw in the election politics of it. He needs to continue to play the "change" cards to distinguish himself from Hilary.

Are you people really that naive to think this is REAL? Sheesh. I swear some of you will fall for anything coming from BH "the messiah" O .

Ah ha, so in other words he wouldn't pick any Republicans for his cabinet because you say so. Gotcha.

On one hand we have the word of a politician, (not so good) and on the other hand we have the opinion of an acknowledged internet extreme right wing hack. Sadly enough I have to go with the politician.

Go ahead and buy into the "messiah's" rhetoric - just don't play the spinster when we come back to this when he doesn't follow through with his election year promises.

I think it's rather sad how far people have fallen for this guy. An unproven populist who has stated very little on his actual positions. Pretty naive of people if you ask me...

You calling him a "messiah" seems like more of your projection of him onto him, which is a good thing. Deep down you probably think he's the real deal.

No, it's me mocking the MSM/others and how they've swooned over him.

I don't personally believe much of anything he's been spouting.

Good and sad in a way. It's good in that, if America elects him, you'll be surprised at what he does (if he carries out his words). It's sad that you don't believe him. BTW, why don't you believe his rhetoric? Are you just cynical or does Obama rub you the wrong way? Or is it because he's a democrat?