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Originally posted by: leftyman
enough with this damn horse already.
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Yeah let's quit horsing around. :D

Well he's done good so far considering the initial prognosis.
 
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spidey07

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That's too bad. It's been a roller coaster since last spring.

That doctor wasn't kidding when he said "It's a long road ahead". I had no idea it would go on for this long. He's too good of a horce to let go. I wanna see him sire 10 derby winners.
 
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Originally posted by: spidey07
That's too bad. It's been a roller coaster since last spring.

That doctor wasn't kidding when he said "It's a long road ahead". I had no idea it would go on for this long. He's too good of a horce to let go. I wanna see him sire 10 derby winners.
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i wonder how many horses he's already sired, and how much they're paying the person who has to... umm.... :eek:
 
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: spidey07
That's too bad. It's been a roller coaster since last spring.

That doctor wasn't kidding when he said "It's a long road ahead". I had no idea it would go on for this long. He's too good of a horce to let go. I wanna see him sire 10 derby winners.
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i wonder how many horses he's already sired, and how much they're paying the person who has to... umm.... :eek:
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0.. he probably never will either.
 
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: leftyman

0.. he probably never will either.
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can horses not be artificially inseminated?
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A stallion is usually trained to mount a phantom mare, although a live mare may be used, and he is collected using an artificial vagina (AV), which is often heated to simulate the vagina of the mare. The AV has a filter and collection area at one end to collect the semen, which is then processed in a lab. The semen is then chilled or frozen and shipped to the mare owner. When the mare is in heat, a veterinarian introduces the semen directly into her via a syringe and pipette.

he must be able to mount, and after (if) he is recovered there are doubts to if his repaired hoof can handle that stress.

 
ElFenix

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Originally posted by: leftyman

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A stallion is usually trained to mount a phantom mare, although a live mare may be used, and he is collected using an artificial vagina (AV), which is often heated to simulate the vagina of the mare. The AV has a filter and collection area at one end to collect the semen, which is then processed in a lab. The semen is then chilled or frozen and shipped to the mare owner. When the mare is in heat, a veterinarian introduces the semen directly into her via a syringe and pipette.

he must be able to mount, and after (if) he is recovered there are doubts to if his repaired hoof can handle that stress.
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what about methods other than the usual? i can't believe that the owners are spending hundreds of thousands on a horse with such an uncertain chance of recouping.
 
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I've heard enough about the horse too .... there are tons of people suffering in the world, and so many care about a future McDonald's 'hamburger'?

edit: shot at McD's, not that I think horses should be food for the PETA-enabled folk :p
 
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: leftyman

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A stallion is usually trained to mount a phantom mare, although a live mare may be used, and he is collected using an artificial vagina (AV), which is often heated to simulate the vagina of the mare. The AV has a filter and collection area at one end to collect the semen, which is then processed in a lab. The semen is then chilled or frozen and shipped to the mare owner. When the mare is in heat, a veterinarian introduces the semen directly into her via a syringe and pipette.

he must be able to mount, and after (if) he is recovered there are doubts to if his repaired hoof can handle that stress.
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what about methods other than the usual? i can't believe that the owners are spending hundreds of thousands on a horse with such an uncertain chance of recouping.
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they are very rich..although they seem really attached to him.

if he can end up breeding, they will recoup all their money plus..

its a shame for the horse but it happens every day with race horses.
 
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spidey07

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
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what about methods other than the usual? i can't believe that the owners are spending hundreds of thousands on a horse with such an uncertain chance of recouping.
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The stud fees alone on him will pay for his price, his medical bills and everything else 100s of times over.
 
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msparish

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: leftyman

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A stallion is usually trained to mount a phantom mare, although a live mare may be used, and he is collected using an artificial vagina (AV), which is often heated to simulate the vagina of the mare. The AV has a filter and collection area at one end to collect the semen, which is then processed in a lab. The semen is then chilled or frozen and shipped to the mare owner. When the mare is in heat, a veterinarian introduces the semen directly into her via a syringe and pipette.

he must be able to mount, and after (if) he is recovered there are doubts to if his repaired hoof can handle that stress.
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what about methods other than the usual? i can't believe that the owners are spending hundreds of thousands on a horse with such an uncertain chance of recouping.
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Actually, I don't believe horses conceived through anything but natural means are allowed to race.
 
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Originally posted by: spidey07


The stud fees alone on him will pay for his price, his medical bills and everything else 100s of times over.
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which is why the question is whether they're getting the stud fees now or if they can't start recouping until he can mount a dummy mare
 
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: spidey07


The stud fees alone on him will pay for his price, his medical bills and everything else 100s of times over.
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which is why the question is whether they're getting the stud fees now or if they can't start recouping until he can mount a dummy mare
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Again, he's not going to have to mount a dummy, but a real mare.

When this happened the owners said they didn't care about getting the money back, they just like the horse. Besides, I'm sure they had a huge insurance policy on him in case of an injury that prevented him from mating.
 
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spidey07

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Just imagine if you could get a race horse with Barbaro as the father and maggie slew (seatle slews last offspring) as the mother.

That would be freakin' sweet.
 
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