barbaro suffers significant setback

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spidey07

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Awww dammit!

After all the work and progress it comes down to this. Oh well, his odds from the get go were never all that great. What an amazing horse though.

Maybe a 3 year old this year will be of his class during the derby prep races.
 
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bummer, but good lord, it was just a horse....do they really think all the effort and suffering was for the best? NO. they just wanted to be able to stud him out.
 

spidey07

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Mikey, he was a lot more than just a horse. He was a dominant champion that looked to dominate for years to come.

And as far as breeding, blood lines are a huge deal in racing. Not just from stud fees, but having such powerful horses in a horses lineage.
 

allisolm

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barbaro suffers significant setback
euthanized 1/29/2007


Being euthanized certainly counts as a significant setback in my opinion. :(
 
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Mikey, he was a lot more than just a horse. He was a dominant champion that looked to dominate for years to come.

And as far as breeding, blood lines are a huge deal in racing. Not just from stud fees, but having such powerful horses in a horses lineage.

yeah, but did anyone SERIOUSLY expect he would make a full recovery and be able to compete again? I doubt it...
 

Steve

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barbaro suffers significant setback, euthanized 1/29/2007

Yeah, I'd say euthanized is a significant setback.
 
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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
bummer, but good lord, it was just a horse....do they really think all the effort and suffering was for the best? NO. they just wanted to be able to stud him out.
In the first part of your post, you seem to know nothing about the horse industry, then in the latter you seem to understand it perfectly. What gives?

Stud fees can go into the hundreds of thousands of dollars (maybe more, I do not know), and that's for a one shot deal, wether the female horse gets pregnant or not.
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
bummer, but good lord, it was just a horse....do they really think all the effort and suffering was for the best? NO. they just wanted to be able to stud him out.

They had kept him alive to this point because he wasn't suffering. :roll:

And who are you to judge what "for the best" is? Would saving you from death be "for the best", or simply worth it out of medical obligation and to bill your insurance company? (hypothetically speaking that is.)

He was a damn beautiful horse and they had a lot more than money invested in him, and its very unfortunate that a horse usually has to be put to sleep just for breaking a leg.

No doubt his stud value kept him alive, but since the horse wasn't suffering and money wasn't an object, it would take a true moron to not try and save him.

 

oogabooga

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put up quite a fight, sad to hear he's down and out
:beer:
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TheNinja

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Do the horses know that it's a race? Are they aware?
What is going on here?
After the race are the horses walking back to the stable:
"I was third, I was first, I was ninth."
I think they're thinking: "Oat bag, I get my oat bag now!"
"Oat bag time."
I gotta bet on this idiot?
I mean, I'm sure the horses have some idea that the jockey is in a big hurry.
I mean, he's on him, he's hitting him with this thing.
He's going: "Come on, come on"
Obviously he's in a hurry, the jockey's in a hurry.
But the horse must get to the end and go:
"We were just here! What was the point of that?"
"This is where we were."
"That was the longest possible route you could take."
"Why didn't we just stay here? We would have been first!"
I'll tell you one thing the horses definitely do not know.
They do not know that if you should accidentally trip
and break your leg at any point during the race
we blow your brains out.
I think they're missing that little tidbit of information.
I think if they knew that
you'd see some mighty careful stepping coming down that home stretch.
"Take it easy, take it easy."
"You win, I'll place... whatever."
"The important thing is your health."


Seinfeld - I'm Telling you for the last time
 
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Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
bummer, but good lord, it was just a horse....do they really think all the effort and suffering was for the best? NO. they just wanted to be able to stud him out.

They had kept him alive to this point because he wasn't suffering. :roll:

And who are you to judge what "for the best" is? Would saving you from death be "for the best", or simply worth it out of medical obligation and to bill your insurance company? (hypothetically speaking that is.)

He was a damn beautiful horse and they had a lot more than money invested in him, and its very unfortunate that a horse usually has to be put to sleep just for breaking a leg.

No doubt his stud value kept him alive, but since the horse wasn't suffering and money wasn't an object, it would take a true moron to not try and save him.

he was an investment they were trying to protect. they wanted those years of huge stud fees to pay off his expenses. they may have had affection for him, but at the end of the day, it was a business decision.
 

MrBond

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From what I've seen on "Dirty Jobs" - when they breed horses, both horses aren't actually "together". The male horse does his thing, then someone else "transfers" it to the female horse.

So I imagine they could have "stocked up" - if you will - and could still stand to make decent money via stud fees selling the frozen goods.
 

Mermaidman

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LOL!

The owners should sell Barbaro's meat. I am 100% sure that some men (from you know where) would pay a big bucks to eat it. The penis alone would fetch a fortune
 

spidey07

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Interesting wiki on Barbaro and why we thought he was such a special horse...

"2006 Kentucky Derby
Undefeated going into the race, Barbaro was sent off as the second choice of the betting public, at odds of 6:1, in a full field of 20 horses. Barbaro charged ahead during the last turn and straightaway of the race to win by 7 lengths. Barbaro's lead in the final furlong expanded even as jockey Edgar Prado did not ask for his top speed. This margin of victory at the Kentucky Derby was the largest since 1946 , when Triple Crown winner Assault took the Run for the Roses by eight lengths. Barbaro's win made him only the sixth undefeated horse to win the Kentucky Derby.[1] During the gallop-out after the wire, Barbaro's lead extended to 20 lengths, which is rare during post-race gallop-outs. The manner of his Derby victory led to speculation that Barbaro might be a "superhorse," the likes of which had not been seen since Affirmed and perhaps even Secretariat, arguably the greatest American thoroughbred of all time.[/b]

Barbaro is also one of the few horses to have won the "Run for the Roses" after more than a 5-week lay-off.
"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbaro

The mere mention of comparing him to Secretariat invokes awe. Secretariat's record will never be beaten.
 

Goosemaster

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heard about it on NPR on the way home.
definitively a moving story.

you'd think that with such a $$$ animal they'd have taken precautions and put part of her rear body on some sort of 24-hour sling, or at least alternated it on and off.
 

thegimp03

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Both my parents come from ranching families that put down a few horses every year.

It's one horse. Who cares?