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Barbara Boxer: CO2 will be the leading cause of war in the next 20 years

dammitgibs said:
Barbara "call me senator" Boxer dispenses her wisdom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJJB7zFsFFE&feature=player_embedded

I don't even get what she's saying, that we're going to go to war to fight over carbon credits? Or we'll be fighting the undeveloped world to keep them from developing? Either way, good luck finding troops for your carbon wars.
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I think its more to the point of "If you buy into the worst case scenario occuring from global warming, millions of people will be displaced, once habitable land no longer being habitable, loss (and gains elsewhere) of cropland, water resources, etc.. would lead to a lot of wars starting". Which is a pretty valid point, if all that stuff does actually happen, then wars are bound to be fought over the need to replace lost resources.

But 20 years??? I have a quite a few friends that are die hard believers of global whateverthefuck they call it today but none of them think the shit will hit the fan in the next decade or two.
 
We better maybe consider Boxer may be right even if she does not have the best hair do.

The fact is that we are now in a period of minimal sunspots that should show significant global cooling, but its still has failed to stop 2010 being the earliest spring on record.

But still, its bought a lot of time for global warming deniers to say earlier gloom and doom predictions are over rated.

But from all I can see from scientific predictions is that sun spot activity is very likely to return with a vengeance soon.

And then we can rue the day we voted in the better hair do and voted out the better brain under all that hair.

Nor will the women from ebay or HP be able to repair a damn thing.
 
What Boxer is adderessing here is Cap and trade . Timing is everthing. When you have a disaster such as present be it accidential or not. Governments use them to push an agenda.
 
Lemon law said:
We better maybe consider Boxer may be right even if she does not have the best hair do.

The fact is that we are now in a period of minimal sunspots that should show significant global cooling, but its still has failed to stop 2010 being the earliest spring on record.

But still, its bought a lot of time for global warming deniers to say earlier gloom and doom predictions are over rated.

But from all I can see from scientific predictions is that sun spot activity is very likely to return with a vengeance soon.

And then we can rue the day we voted in the better hair do and voted out the better brain under all that hair.

Nor will the women from ebay or HP be able to repair a damn thing.
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wow, you are right... we better re-elect boxer, because she can do something about sunspots...

actually, you are just fucking nuts...

and last time i looked, boxer came from somewhere before politics and had a hairdo, too... you progressive feminists are something else...
 
Jaskalas said:
Right... CO2 is far more likely to cause war than, say, failed economies and mass poverty.
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She's not saying CO2 will directly cause war (or that carbon credits would do so, as the OP posted). But you guys knew that.

If it turns out that climate change ends up having a significant impact on the planet, it would EASILY cause war. Funny enough, it would probably end up doing so for exactly the better reasons you mentioned. A drastic change in our climate COULD result in economic upheaval and increased poverty, especially in countries that are far from stable right now.
 
Rainsford said:
She's not saying CO2 will directly cause war (or that carbon credits would do so, as the OP posted). But you guys knew that.

If it turns out that climate change ends up having a significant impact on the planet, it would EASILY cause war. Funny enough, it would probably end up doing so for exactly the better reasons you mentioned. A drastic change in our climate COULD result in economic upheaval and increased poverty, especially in countries that are far from stable right now.
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So by that token couldn't it also result in areas becoming more hospitable and suitable for agriculture and civilization? Couldn't it have positive effects too?
 
dammitgibs said:
So by that token couldn't it also result in areas becoming more hospitable and suitable for agriculture and civilization? Couldn't it have positive effects too?
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Sure, in the long run. But most people aren't nomadic tribesmen, we can't just pick up and move our civilization to a better place. This isn't a war scenario, but if water becomes a much bigger problem in the US southwest due to climate change, that is going to cause some MASSIVE problems, even if there is plenty of water elsewhere.
 
I think there's a pretty strong positive correlation between producing CO2 and being able to kick other country's asses in a war.
 
Don't call her Boxer or Ma'am or anything other than Senator. She's worked very hard to get where she is...blah, blah, blah.

Excuse me while I puke...
 
Rainsford said:
Sure, in the long run. But most people aren't nomadic tribesmen, we can't just pick up and move our civilization to a better place. This isn't a war scenario, but if water becomes a much bigger problem in the US southwest due to climate change, that is going to cause some MASSIVE problems, even if there is plenty of water elsewhere.
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Our population increase ALONE is going to cause a water shortage in the US southwest. No climate change needed.

Rainsford said:
If it turns out that climate change ends up having a significant impact on the planet, it would EASILY cause war. Funny enough, it would probably end up doing so for exactly the better reasons you mentioned. A drastic change in our climate COULD result in economic upheaval and increased poverty, especially in countries that are far from stable right now.
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If it's true, then sure. I'll grant you that. Of course I'm seeing it from the point of view that CO2 causing this is a fairy tale.
 
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How big was the font on her papers to require two sheets to say that?

Economic, ideological differences, and oil will be a far larger cause of warfare than any potential displacement of people from global warming over the next 20 years. Unlike the movies where the oceans rise 50 feet in 36 hours. The worst case if you believe it will be just a few inches tops over the next century.
 
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Anyone who's taken a 100 level world history course knows that many historical events can be directly linked to climate change. The 20 years bit is the only part of her testimony I'd question.
 
irishScott said:
Anyone who's taken a 100 level world history course knows that many historical events can be directly linked to climate change. The 20 years bit is the only part of her testimony I'd question.
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Weren't the crusades related to climate change around the mini ice age? They thought god was mad at them for allowing the Muslims occupy the holy land and to punish them caused the cold and then the crops wouldn't grow so they had a famine? Kinda funny how history repeats itself and we're going on another crusade of eco-imperialism.
 
dammitgibs said:
Weren't the crusades related to climate change around the mini ice age? They thought god was mad at them for allowing the Muslims occupy the holy land and to punish them caused the cold and then the crops wouldn't grow so they had a famine? Kinda funny how history repeats itself and we're going on another crusade of eco-imperialism.
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When the climate got colder disease and famine spread and so did war. Which is why I dont understand the hysteria about global warming. Our world prospers under warmer climates and suffers under cold.
 
alarmist eco-KOOK drum beat to keep the blantant hoax alive. Mabe they need to mount a few more sensors near asphalt or HVAC exhaust to kludge new data for their goofy computer models.
 
She's appealing to her base in her re-election bid.

It's working, just look at the responses she's gotten here. She'll be spouting out this kind of horseshit from now until November.
 
Pelosi and Boxer... We are being controlled by idiots.

Carbon Taxing is the most stupid idea ever imagined. Not that the results cannot be considered a benefit, but the way is is being proposed will rob the world of wealth, destroy economies, and cause immense hardships for countries around the world.

We need vote out these ignorant representatives in offices.
 
boomerang said:
She's appealing to her base in her re-election bid.

It's working, just look at the responses she's gotten here. She'll be spouting out this kind of horseshit from now until November.
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She is a female Messiah and can do no wrong because she is doing a excellent job pissing off you Republicans :thumbsup:
 
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