Barack Obama, College Administrator

[BarrySotero]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Nah it was all over Hannity. MSM ignored it. It's funny but a lot of people think Rev Wrights comments were recorded on the sly. They were just taken from a DVD for sale by church. Oprah left Trinity and associating with Wright and people in media knew about what was going on there but they chose to make Obama into Martin Luther Kennedy instead. Now he's just another snotty red diaper baby.

You have to be bind/deaf, crazy, an amnesiac, or all of the above. (I still bet on crazy) The Rev. Wright scandal was such a big deal that he had to take time off his normal campaign and give a specific speech on race and Rev. Wright in Philadelphia. It was billed as the defining moment of his campaign up to that point. Obama doesn't make speeches based on what Sean Hannity's tomato can head says.

This does explain some things about you though, you rewrite history inside your head so that suddenly all the crazy shit bouncing around there makes sense. When reality doesn't conform to your psychosis, your brain helps you change reality to fit.

Very very weak puppy. MSM should have produced Wright story and they didn't. They and Obama had to face it since they were no longer able to ignore it. MSM then helped Obama makes excuses for it and tried to paint him as "Mr Stuck in the middle" between races and his criticisms of America were just like Mark Twain lol

 

[DealMonkey]

Yawn. It's okay PJ, we get it, you don't like Obama. :roll:

 

[Pens1566]

I liked you more as butterbean

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Very very weak puppy. MSM should have produced Wright story and they didn't. They and Obama had to face it since they were no longer able to ignore it. MSM then helped Obama makes excuses for it and tried to paint him as "Mr Stuck in the middle" between races and his criticisms of America were just like Mark Twain lol

Get the fuck over it, honestly.

No one wants to hear about Wright in every fucking post.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Nah it was all over Hannity. MSM ignored it. It's funny but a lot of people think Rev Wrights comments were recorded on the sly. They were just taken from a DVD for sale by church. Oprah left Trinity and associating with Wright and people in media knew about what was going on there but they chose to make Obama into Martin Luther Kennedy instead. Now he's just another snotty red diaper baby.

You have to be bind/deaf, crazy, an amnesiac, or all of the above. (I still bet on crazy) The Rev. Wright scandal was such a big deal that he had to take time off his normal campaign and give a specific speech on race and Rev. Wright in Philadelphia. It was billed as the defining moment of his campaign up to that point. Obama doesn't make speeches based on what Sean Hannity's tomato can head says.

This does explain some things about you though, you rewrite history inside your head so that suddenly all the crazy shit bouncing around there makes sense. When reality doesn't conform to your psychosis, your brain helps you change reality to fit.

Very very weak puppy. MSM should have produced Wright story and they didn't. They and Obama had to face it since they were no longer able to ignore it. MSM then helped Obama makes excuses for it and tried to paint him as "Mr Stuck in the middle" between races and his criticisms of America were just like Mark Twain lol

Ahhh so now instead of ignoring it, they 'didn't produce' it. Keep on backpedaling.

Like I said, you are trying to rewrite history to fit it in with your own dementia. As I have said before, if you honestly believe what you write you would be doing yourself a favor by having a psychiatric evaluation. (I'm really dead serious) The way you view the world is not normal.

 

[Carmen813]

Gee, another attack on "academics". Color me surprised.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
I really can't stand articles/media like this, they are everywhere on both sides for every issue and are blatantly just works for a paycheck. Yet people will point to them as some sort of profound gospel truth.

Jabberwacky thrives on them, and insistently infests P&N with them. It's really getting old.

So is your lack of originality, lack of ability not to personally attack in a post, and lack of ability to stay on topic.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Originally posted by: PJABBER
"the guy has a pretty unique victory, captures the hearts if not the minds of the electorate, has a Congress dominated by Democrats and... an innate inability to deliver".

That's because he ran as a phony moderate with media becoming part of the campaign and supporting the ruse while hiding the dirt. I watched papers and magazines carry on for weeks about Romney's Mormonism while Obama's intimate connection to a demented, liberation Marxist preacher was ignored.

Now that America sees what it elected and just how radical Obama is there is of course a reaction of rejection like a body that wants to reject a transplanted organ. Obama has more in common with petty, anti-US UN bureaucrats than a leader that actually cares about the country. Obama's heart beats in sympathy with thugs and dictators and against the US and it's allies.

He ran on UHC. Also his pastor "scandal" was all over the news. You have a fail memory.

Nah it was all over Hannity. MSM ignored it. It's funny but a lot of people think Rev Wrights comments were recorded on the sly. They were just taken from a DVD for sale by church. Oprah left Trinity and associating with Wright and people in media knew about what was going on there but they chose to make Obama into Martin Luther Kennedy instead. Now he's just another snotty red diaper baby.

Look a troll has attracted a troll....
Is PJABBER and Sotero brothers???

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
I really can't stand articles/media like this, they are everywhere on both sides for every issue and are blatantly just works for a paycheck. Yet people will point to them as some sort of profound gospel truth.

Jabberwacky thrives on them, and insistently infests P&N with them. It's really getting old.

So is your lack of originality, lack of ability not to personally attack in a post, and lack of ability to stay on topic.

Good thing no one takes your opinion seriously.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
That's because he ran as a phony moderate with media becoming part of the campaign and supporting the ruse while hiding the dirt. I watched papers and magazines carry on for weeks about Romney's Mormonism while Obama's intimate connection to a demented, liberation Marxist preacher was ignored.

what country were you living in during the election?

 

[WHAMPOM]

OP of the pseudointellectual. PAAA-LIZE! No more postings out of your right-wing tink-tank subscriptions.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Isn't it comical? At the end of the day troll thread is still, in fact, troll. Never feed troll after midnight.

OP is an attention whore.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

Originally posted by: PJABBER
"the guy has a pretty unique victory, captures the hearts if not the minds of the electorate, has a Congress dominated by Democrats and... an innate inability to deliver".

That's because he ran as a phony moderate with media becoming part of the campaign and supporting the ruse while hiding the dirt. I watched papers and magazines carry on for weeks about Romney's Mormonism while Obama's intimate connection to a demented, liberation Marxist preacher was ignored.

Now that America sees what it elected and just how radical Obama is there is of course a reaction of rejection like a body that wants to reject a transplanted organ. Obama has more in common with petty, anti-US UN bureaucrats than a leader that actually cares about the country. Obama's heart beats in sympathy with thugs and dictators and against the US and it's allies.

He ran on UHC. Also his pastor "scandal" was all over the news. You have a fail memory.

No, he's just a partisan troll.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Carmen813
Gee, another attack on "academics". Color me surprised.

hey, those that can, do... those that can't, teach

all i'm saying is that having innumerable degrees is completely useless, IMO, without practical experience

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Carmen813
Gee, another attack on "academics". Color me surprised.

hey, those that can, do... those that can't, teach

all i'm saying is that having innumerable degrees is completely useless, IMO, without practical experience

And I always thought that was an ancient Chinese proverb that those too old to work should teach their skill to the young. "Those that can't, teach those that can, what to do." Probably a translation error no one bothered to correct and got fixed into common culture through misuse.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

YAPJC&PTT with trite, pseudo-intellectual commentary for the fail... SSDD /plonk

Complete with a link to an opinion piece from the right wingnut word manglers from "National Review," the same fine folks who pimped the war of LIES in Iraq for his thankfully EX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal of traitors, murderers, torturers, war criminals, war profiteers and general incompetents.

YAWN!!! :roll:

 

[Schmide]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Carmen813
Gee, another attack on "academics". Color me surprised.

hey, those that can, do... those that can't, teach

all i'm saying is that having innumerable degrees is completely useless, IMO, without practical experience

I find it easier to do than to teach. When someone says, "write me a program to do this," I charge X. When they say, "Teach me how to write a program to do this," I charge double. Hand holding is a bitch.

 

[TheSkinsFan]

Regardless of the political aspects of this article, I personally believe that every single Professor needs to be hit over the head with a solid chunk of real life before they earn their fancy titles and tenure. AFAIC, a universal requirement of 10+ years of OTJ public or private sector experience should be included in their screening. The majority of my own professors suffered from a severe detachment from reality.

Another thread, another time...

 

[LumbergTech]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Regardless of the political aspects of this article, I personally believe that every single Professor needs to be hit over the head with a solid chunk of real life before they earn their fancy titles and tenure. AFAIC, a universal requirement of 10+ years of OTJ public or private sector experience should be included in their screening. The majority of my own professors suffered from a severe detachment from reality.

Another thread, another time...

MOST of your professors were basically insane? what school did you go to?

 

[Schmide]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Regardless of the political aspects of this article, I personally believe that every single Professor needs to be hit over the head with a solid chunk of real life before they earn their fancy titles and tenure. AFAIC, a universal requirement of 10+ years of OTJ public or private sector experience should be included in their screening. The majority of my own professors suffered from a severe detachment from reality.

Another thread, another time...

MOST of your professors were basically insane? what school did you go to?

Maybe Glenn Beck's "University of I don't Remember?"

Sorry I had to. Not directed towards TheSkinsFan.

 

[TheSkinsFan]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Regardless of the political aspects of this article, I personally believe that every single Professor needs to be hit over the head with a solid chunk of real life before they earn their fancy titles and tenure. AFAIC, a universal requirement of 10+ years of OTJ public or private sector experience should be included in their screening. The majority of my own professors suffered from a severe detachment from reality.

Another thread, another time...

MOST of your professors were basically insane? what school did you go to?

I'm going to guess that you actually know what I meant, but I'll explain it again anyways: They simply had no concept of life beyond the walls of the academic institutions. If they bothered to experience life -- business, politics, social circumstances, etc. -- outside of school, even for just a few years, perhaps they could return to the classrooms and pass on much more important and much more accurate lessons that would truly prepare students for real life.

There is nothing more annoying than someone who may be well-read, but completely lacking real experience, trying to preach or dictate truisms to someone who is actually experienced.

As someone who did not attend college until I was in my thirties, I often found my professors' disconnects from reality, or "the real world," very disturbing. On more than one occasion, and in more than one subject, I had to correct my professors -- and none of them ever took it well when I did.

For many, if it wasn't in a book, or they hadn't heard/seen it in the faculty lounge, then it wasn't true or didn't exist. That's a dangerous philosophy when the future of our world depends on the success and quality of our students.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Regardless of the political aspects of this article, I personally believe that every single Professor needs to be hit over the head with a solid chunk of real life before they earn their fancy titles and tenure. AFAIC, a universal requirement of 10+ years of OTJ public or private sector experience should be included in their screening. The majority of my own professors suffered from a severe detachment from reality.

Another thread, another time...

MOST of your professors were basically insane? what school did you go to?

I'm going to guess that you actually know what I meant, but I'll explain it again anyways: They simply had no concept of life beyond the walls of the academic institutions. If they bothered to experience life -- business, politics, social circumstances, etc. -- outside of school, even for just a few years, perhaps they could return to the classrooms and pass on much more important and much more accurate lessons that would truly prepare students for real life.

There is nothing more annoying than someone who may be well-read, but completely lacking real experience, trying to preach or dictate truisms to someone who is actually experienced.

As someone who did not attend college until I was in my thirties, I often found my professors' disconnects from reality, or "the real world," very disturbing. On more than one occasion, and in more than one subject, I had to correct my professors -- and none of them ever took it well when I did.

For many, if it wasn't in a book, or they hadn't heard/seen it in the faculty lounge, then it wasn't true or didn't exist. That's a dangerous philosophy when the future of our world depends on the success and quality of our students.

This perpetuates the completely batshit view conservatives have of academics. To be in academia, one constantly tries to learn and keep up with the pulse of the "real world." One must publish constantly, and conduct research through both the media, press and personal interviews. Professors are part of the community too, have friends and families, watch tv and movies, and experience everything non-academics experience. What makes your experiences somehow more authentic exactly?

I've never seen a professor get pissed when learning something new from a student, or being corrected if the point being contested was one of fact and not opinion. I don't know what school you went to, but I have seen students clearly in the wrong argue with professors, or merely arguing their opinion, and later mouth off about how they know so much and how the professor was an idiot or that he lives in some bubble. Are there some professors out there who can't admit being wrong? Sure, they are human. But the conservative/right-wing view of academics as bookish isolationists who refuse to or are incapable of understanding the "real world" is a fiction the right perpetuates. As if the talking heads or journalists or for gods sake, politicians!, have a better idea about "real life"? This goes double for grad school profs who are often practicianers in their given field, i.e. lawyers/judges teaching at law schools, business owners/vps teaching at business schools.

As to the OP article, that's seriously unhinged stuff right there. I've seen Obama called lots of things. Baffled is not one of them.

 

[TheSkinsFan]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
I'm going to guess that you actually know what I meant, but I'll explain it again anyways: They simply had no concept of life beyond the walls of the academic institutions. If they bothered to experience life -- business, politics, social circumstances, etc. -- outside of school, even for just a few years, perhaps they could return to the classrooms and pass on much more important and much more accurate lessons that would truly prepare students for real life.

There is nothing more annoying than someone who may be well-read, but completely lacking real experience, trying to preach or dictate truisms to someone who is actually experienced.

As someone who did not attend college until I was in my thirties, I often found my professors' disconnects from reality, or "the real world," very disturbing. On more than one occasion, and in more than one subject, I had to correct my professors -- and none of them ever took it well when I did.

For many, if it wasn't in a book, or they hadn't heard/seen it in the faculty lounge, then it wasn't true or didn't exist. That's a dangerous philosophy when the future of our world depends on the success and quality of our students.

This perpetuates the completely batshit view conservatives have of academics. To be in academia, one constantly tries to learn and keep up with the pulse of the "real world." One must publish constantly, and conduct research through both the media, press and personal interviews. Professors are part of the community too, have friends and families, watch tv and movies, and experience everything non-academics experience. What makes your experiences somehow more authentic exactly?

I've never seen a professor get pissed when learning something new from a student, or being corrected if the point being contested was one of fact and not opinion. I don't know what school you went to, but I have seen students clearly in the wrong argue with professors, or merely arguing their opinion, and later mouth off about how they know so much and how the professor was an idiot or that he lives in some bubble. Are there some professors out there who can't admit being wrong? Sure, they are human. But the conservative/right-wing view of academics as bookish isolationists who refuse to or are incapable of understanding the "real world" is a fiction the right perpetuates. As if the talking heads or journalists or for gods sake, politicians!, have a better idea about "real life"?

You'd have to be one dumb partisan son-of-a-bitch to assign what I'm saying to "conservatives" or "the right" -- especially since I'm not a sworn affiliate to either of those, and my voting record has more often than not been quite the opposite.

This tangent in the disucssion has absolutely NOTHING to do with politics and everything to do with many professors living in an academic elitist box of their own design.

Are you a life-long academic? That might help explain your defensiveness. Or, perhaps you've never attended an Ivy League school...?

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero

• "" Help! Help! I'm being repressed! ""

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

• "" Help! Help! I'm being repressed! ""

[by da Libruls in media and academia]

 

[alchemize]

It's really cute watching all the lefties thrash and threadcrap and cry "troll!" at these opinion articles. Almost like 2000 - 2008 never even occurred.