Bank lobbyist suffer rare defeat

PokerGuy

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Do all you libtards get your drivel from the huffington blog or something? Apparently that's where idiots gather online to get their fill of left wing propaganda. Well, maybe that and salon.
 

CallMeJoe

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Do all you libtards get your drivel from the huffington blog or something? Apparently that's where idiots gather online to get their fill of left wing propaganda. Well, maybe that and salon.
"Libtards" again. No points for originality here.
Also, another lame ad hominem. Something's not necessarily untrue just because it's on HuffPo or Fox; as they say, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. I'm guessing that's also somewhere around your average, PG...
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Do all you libtards get your drivel from the huffington blog or something? Apparently that's where idiots gather online to get their fill of left wing propaganda. Well, maybe that and salon.

YABNTR (yet another buttsore neocunt troll response)

 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Do all you libtards get your drivel from the huffington blog or something? Apparently that's where idiots gather online to get their fill of left wing propaganda. Well, maybe that and salon.

YABNTR (yet another buttsore neocunt troll response)

Oh that's sig worthy :D

 

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If you people are not interested in discussing the topic, I will be happy to lock the thread.

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Common Courtesy
 

CallMeJoe

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Defeat of the amendment is a step in the right direction, but it's hard to put much faith in real banking reform from either of the current parties. Too many Congressmen taking too many contributions from too many lobbyists.
 

Lemon law

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We have allowed bankers to sell us a total fictional bill of goods, on the premise that are all whip smart people who create value out of total thin air. And that therefore they deserve compensation and salaries beyond all belief.

And even after the financial community laid a total egg and tanked the economy, that myth still dies hard. Even after certain firms bet the moon and stars, backed by nothing, and we had to bail their sad and sorry asses out.

Its long past time to regulate these firms, realize they are nothing more than a service industry, and totally incapable of creating wealth out of thin air.

And until we tell those jerks they do not deserve the fantastic salaries they would like to become accustomed to, we still buy into their bill of goods.

Simply tell them no, no, no, and no again. If you take a dime of Federal bail outs, no bonuses for you boopsie.

And instead we tell they, when they bet right they get to keep the profits, and if they bet wrong, we bail them out plus let them keep the commissions on the bad bets.

How stupid is that???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Defeat of the amendment is a step in the right direction, but it's hard to put much faith in real banking reform from either of the current parties. Too many Congressmen taking too many contributions from too many lobbyists.

Too many voters voting based on the expensive marketing campaigns that force the politicians to raise huge funds - or lose to those who will - that are only available from the big corporate interests, who use their wealth to pursue agendas with zero concern for the public interest and 100% concern for their narrow shareholder interests.

Unless we reduce the role of money in politics, there's no other fix I can see for this.

Basically, we're asking politicians to *have* to raise huge funds from these interests - and to then completely vote against those interests for the public who donates little.

Gee, what could go wrong?

Why don't we have the police entirely funded by donations from the criminals, and then wonder why they start to serve the criminals more often?
 

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Defeat of the amendment is a step in the right direction, but it's hard to put much faith in real banking reform from either of the current parties. Too many Congressmen taking too many contributions from too many lobbyists.

Too many voters voting based on the expensive marketing campaigns that force the politicians to raise huge funds - or lose to those who will - that are only available from the big corporate interests, who use their wealth to pursue agendas with zero concern for the public interest and 100% concern for their narrow shareholder interests.

Unless we reduce the role of money in politics, there's no other fix I can see for this.

Basically, we're asking politicians to *have* to raise huge funds from these interests - and to then completely vote against those interests for the public who donates little.

Gee, what could go wrong?

Why don't we have the police entirely funded by donations from the criminals, and then wonder why they start to serve the criminals more often?

Locked in as Free speech by the USSC

 

Craig234

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The Democrats who are on the side of the banks and not the public are terrible. But:

The preemption fight is not over, however. "I think that it will continue to be an issue. And it's not that some Republicans will support it. Every Republican would support it," said Miller.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Defeat of the amendment is a step in the right direction, but it's hard to put much faith in real banking reform from either of the current parties. Too many Congressmen taking too many contributions from too many lobbyists.

Too many voters voting based on the expensive marketing campaigns that force the politicians to raise huge funds - or lose to those who will - that are only available from the big corporate interests, who use their wealth to pursue agendas with zero concern for the public interest and 100% concern for their narrow shareholder interests.

Unless we reduce the role of money in politics, there's no other fix I can see for this.

Basically, we're asking politicians to *have* to raise huge funds from these interests - and to then completely vote against those interests for the public who donates little.

Gee, what could go wrong?

Why don't we have the police entirely funded by donations from the criminals, and then wonder why they start to serve the criminals more often?

I think it would help if more people were engaged in politics and see how the politicians they vote for actually vote. I think this is coming into fruition with the healthcare bill because you are seeing alot of Dems who are bought off by the lobbyists actually getting heat from their constituents.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
If you people are not interested in discussing the topic, I will be happy to lock the thread.

Senior Anandtech Moderator
Common Courtesy

Excuse me... it is not the THREAD.. it is those who derailed it INTENTIONALLY

I have had a temp ban for thread hijacking

Warn your republican counterparts about hijacking please and dont blame the thread
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Defeat of the amendment is a step in the right direction, but it's hard to put much faith in real banking reform from either of the current parties. Too many Congressmen taking too many contributions from too many lobbyists.

Too many voters voting based on the expensive marketing campaigns that force the politicians to raise huge funds - or lose to those who will - that are only available from the big corporate interests, who use their wealth to pursue agendas with zero concern for the public interest and 100% concern for their narrow shareholder interests.

Unless we reduce the role of money in politics, there's no other fix I can see for this.

Basically, we're asking politicians to *have* to raise huge funds from these interests - and to then completely vote against those interests for the public who donates little.

Gee, what could go wrong?

Why don't we have the police entirely funded by donations from the criminals, and then wonder why they start to serve the criminals more often?
Locked in as Free speech by the USSC
Yes, and that was a tremendous mistake for American democracy. Though there are obviously other factors too, this one decision is the root of why our government is dominated by special interest whores ... and yes, that's on both sides of the aisle.

 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Defeat of the amendment is a step in the right direction, but it's hard to put much faith in real banking reform from either of the current parties. Too many Congressmen taking too many contributions from too many lobbyists.

Too many voters voting based on the expensive marketing campaigns that force the politicians to raise huge funds - or lose to those who will - that are only available from the big corporate interests, who use their wealth to pursue agendas with zero concern for the public interest and 100% concern for their narrow shareholder interests.

Unless we reduce the role of money in politics, there's no other fix I can see for this.

Basically, we're asking politicians to *have* to raise huge funds from these interests - and to then completely vote against those interests for the public who donates little.

Gee, what could go wrong?

Why don't we have the police entirely funded by donations from the criminals, and then wonder why they start to serve the criminals more often?

Locked in as Free speech by the USSC

I support a simple constitutional amendment:

Rights in the constitution for persons means only natural persons.

That's all we need to get rid of the corrupt history at the height of the robber baron era when big business owned the court and got this ridiculous prcedent passed.

There are a lot of things we can do in the meantime too. Go check Common for one source of proposals.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
If you people are not interested in discussing the topic, I will be happy to lock the thread.

Senior Anandtech Moderator
Common Courtesy

Excuse me... it is not the THREAD.. it is those who derailed it INTENTIONALLY

I have had a temp ban for thread hijacking

Warn your republican counterparts about hijacking please and dont blame the thread

Zing :thumbsup:

Consumer Financial Protection Agency my ass.

It will actually mean Fuck Consumers Even More Agency.


 

Munky

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Good. I want those banks regulated back to the stone age (figurative speech). I believe the deregulation of the 1990's is what allowed the banks to bring about this crisis. We had the Glass-Steagall Act established after the Great Depression which separated commercial banks from the Wall St speculators in order to prevent this kind of thing from happening. But in their insatiable greed, the bankers lobbied to repeal the act, and all the "wealth and prosperity" just vanished, while we have to bail their asses out.