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Bangladeshis try to hijack Koreatown

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This is madness! This is Koreatown!

Koreans and Bangladeshis Vie in Los Angeles District
By MIRA JANG

LOS ANGELES ? In the last 30 years or so, a six-square-mile area west of downtown Los Angeles has become an enclave of some 50,000 Korean-Americans, the largest concentration of Koreans in the country. The district is now commonly known as Koreatown.

But on the city?s official maps, Koreatown is nowhere to be found, because until 2006 Los Angeles had no formal process for designating neighborhoods, whether well recognized or little known. Korean civic groups say they always simply assumed that the area was officially Koreatown.

They were surprised, then, when an application was filed with the city clerk?s office in October to name dozens of square blocks in what they consider the heart of the neighborhood. The name sought was Little Bangladesh.

The application, submitted by a committee of the growing number of Bangladeshis in Los Angeles, has brought a struggle between two mainly immigrant groups that reflects the complexities of negotiating space and official recognition in an increasingly crowded urban center.

The last official count of the Bangladeshi population, in the 2000 census, showed only 1,700 in all of Los Angeles County. But the Bangladeshi consul general here, Abu Zafar, estimates that there are now 10,000 to 15,000 in Los Angeles and some 25,000 in Southern California, making the region the nation?s second-largest home to Bangladeshis, after New York City.

In what the Koreans thought was Koreatown, a handful of Bangladeshi stores have cropped up, Mr. Zafar said, and the community is growing as a result of migration from out of state.

Moshurul Huda, a member of the Little Bangladesh Project, the committee that filed for official designation, said of the effort, ?We just want to show our pride for future generations.?

But that goal is shared by the other side.

?We don?t want to seem like bullies, but this is Koreatown,? said Chang Lee, chairman of the Korean American Federation of Los Angeles. ?We will fight for it.?

So the federation, along with several other community groups, filed its own application last month, asking that six square miles between downtown and Hancock Park, an area including the proposed Little Bangladesh, be officially Koreatown.

?This cross-ethnic tension is somewhat new,? said Jan Lin, a sociology professor at Occidental College here whose specialty is ethnic enclaves. ?Historically, it?s been whites against nonwhites as new immigrants move into established white neighborhoods.?

But the tension is not surprising, Mr. Lin said, given the tendency of immigrant groups to live in close proximity to one another. In Hollywood, Thai Town is inside Little Armenia. Little Tokyo and Chinatown occupy distinct but neighboring spaces downtown. And a Salvadoran business corridor lies adjacent to Koreatown.

Korean immigrants, who withstood the 1992 riots here, began transforming the city?s core in the 1970s from a depressed neighborhood into what is today a business and social hub so large and dotted with so many Korean-language signs that it has been compared to Seoul. Formal recognition would bolster tourism there and help preserve ethnic heritage, Mr. Lin said.

Bangladeshi leaders acknowledge the de facto existence of Koreatown; many of them live or work in Korean-owned buildings.

?But we have the same aspirations as the Koreans,? said Shamim Ahmed, a Bangladeshi vice consul. ?Having a sign doesn?t mean we own it. It?s just symbolic.?

Symbolism also resonates strongly with many Koreans, but their objections to the Little Bangladesh designation, they say, go further. The Wilshire Center-Koreatown Neighborhood Council wrote a letter to the city opposing it on the ground that it would cause ?irreparable harm? to Koreatown?s commercial ambitions and cultural influence.

Either designation requires a majority vote of the City Council, and prospects for an official Koreatown appear brighter than those for Little Bangladesh, which is opposed by Councilman Tom LaBonge, who represents much of the area.

?Koreatown has been around for so long that it predates any regulation,? Mr. LaBonge said in an interview. ?It?s just as formal, and justified. It is Koreatown.?

Mr. LaBonge has recommended that the Little Bangladesh Project instead erect a monument at a local park as a starting point for a possible future name designation, perhaps of a nearby area.

?I want to see that they are invested in the area,? he said, ?and that they?re here to stay.?

Korean leaders say that there is room for a Little Bangladesh, but that there are boundaries.

?It?s nice to embrace other communities,? said Brad Lee, a member of the Koreatown neighborhood council?s board, ?as long as it?s not in our backyard. Or in our front yard.?
 
That seems like a really stupid move. Why would you antagonize the neighborhood when you're trying to settle and do business in that neighborhood?
 
haha damn lol. I didn't even realize there are people/stores from people of Bangladesh. When I went to Seoul for the first time, it really did feet like I was in Koreatown, hahaha.
 
Regardless of what the 'official' name may be, I have a feeling if the Koreans remain there it will always be known as Koreatown.
 
Originally posted by: n yusef
Aren't you guys some of the same people who objected to the black couple who were shopping at black-owned businesses? Isn't this a little similar?

Who are these 'you guys'? Wanna be a little bit more specific if you're going to be calling people hypocrites.
 
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: n yusef
Aren't you guys some of the same people who objected to the black couple who were shopping at black-owned businesses? Isn't this a little similar?

Who are these 'you guys'? Wanna be a little bit more specific if you're going to be calling people hypocrites.

Hmm, I'm sorry. I got some people from my thread confused. If my post does not apply to you, please do not take offense.
 
Originally posted by: n yusef
Aren't you guys some of the same people who objected to the black couple who were shopping at black-owned businesses? Isn't this a little similar?

I didn't participate in that thread, but I don't see the parallel.
 
Originally posted by: n yusef
Aren't you guys some of the same people who objected to the black couple who were shopping at black-owned businesses? Isn't this a little similar?

hmmmm... korean grocery store welcome most people ....
 
If the council would spend 5 minutes walking the area, it is clearly koreatown.

hell I'm gonna be heading out there in an hour.
 
ROFL! Now the koreans know how the blacks felt when they were displaced decades ago...but of course, that's different...😛
 
aren't there banners on the city light posts that say "welcome to koreatown"? I guess it's not official or anything but IT still seems like that's what that area is known as.

Originally posted by: Looney
Wow, is your geography fvcked up. I guess it is true that US Americans do not have maps.

I have a map! MAP

 
Originally posted by: oogabooga
aren't there banners on the city light posts that say "welcome to koreatown"? I guess it's not official or anything but IT still seems like that's what that area is known as.

Nope, just the fact that all the signs for every freaking business within that area are written in Korean. I used to work with some of the Korean auto repair shops in that area and I dated a Korean woman for a while. Nice people actually. I like Korean BBQ.
 
Originally posted by: freesia39
Little Bangladesh there? I don't think I've ever seen anything Bangladeshi in that area.

According to the article, NYC has the most and I haven't seen a single sign of it in all my years.
 
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