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BAN Animal Testing on Cats and Dogs

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Originally posted by: NewPhone
They need to BAN Animal Testing on Cats and Dogs because they have done so much humans.

The law should be specific to cats and dogs only. If you try to ban it on all animals people will want medical stuff tested on rats etc. Also if you only ban it for Cats and Dogs no Politician that wants to get reelected or the has a brain or that has a hart will try to block the laws

What makes dogs and cats special? If u want to be emo about animals why not ban it for all and not just cats and dogs


Oh ya.... Where is my free ipod
 
I agree. We should use humans who are against animal testing like the OP as test subjects instead. It's more direct and effective. You know those domestic terrorists (PETA) who fire bomb research scientists' cars and homes? They would be the perfect test subjects. If they love animals so much, it's only fitting that they take over the role.
 
Originally posted by: NewPhone
They (who?) need to ban animal testing on cats and dogs, because they have done so much for humans.

The law should be specific to cats and dogs only. If you try to ban animal testing on all animals people (who?) will want (poor word choice) medical stuff (poor word choice) tested on other animals such as rats. If you only ban it for cats and dogs no politician that wants to get re-elected or that has a brain or heart will try to block the laws. (appeal to emotion, weak argument)


D+, needs more work.
 
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: NewPhone
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: Jeff7
All in favor of allowing product testing on NewPhone?


Why ban it for cats and dogs, but not rats?

Are cows ok? Horses? Chimps? Tapirs?

Fuck those Tapirs. damn scammers!

Ahahah cheers zinfamous :beer:

And yes, I am now done with the semester, so that :beer: represents a real one 😉

no i do not think they should test on those animals either. But if they ban testing on those cats and dogs first that most people will vote for then the next law can ban testing on other animals. Plus Cats and Dogs are very speical because they have done so much for Humans.

So other than being seeing eye dogs, and cats crapping in a sandbox tell me just what have animals done for us?

I personally love animals, I have 2 cats but you are clearly retarded in your reasoning...



countless times dogs have saved human lives.
also police uses dogs
fire dept uses dogs
people with pets live longer and are happier



 
Originally posted by: NewPhone
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: NewPhone
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: Jeff7
All in favor of allowing product testing on NewPhone?


Why ban it for cats and dogs, but not rats?

Are cows ok? Horses? Chimps? Tapirs?

Fuck those Tapirs. damn scammers!

Ahahah cheers zinfamous :beer:

And yes, I am now done with the semester, so that :beer: represents a real one 😉

no i do not think they should test on those animals either. But if they ban testing on those cats and dogs first that most people will vote for then the next law can ban testing on other animals. Plus Cats and Dogs are very speical because they have done so much for Humans.

So other than being seeing eye dogs, and cats crapping in a sandbox tell me just what have animals done for us?

I personally love animals, I have 2 cats but you are clearly retarded in your reasoning...



countless times dogs have saved human lives.
also police uses dogs
fire dept uses dogs
people with pets live longer and are happier

Stop posting.
 
Originally posted by: NewPhone

countless times dogs have saved human lives.
also police uses dogs
fire dept uses dogs
people with pets live longer and are happier

You forgot to add that testing on dogs helps us too 😉 Have you left the forum yet? I don't see you lasting long 🙂
 
Ha on a side note I remember when PETA was spouting this shit on campus and organized a event in the commons, they recruited a few helpers, the one who ordered the pizza was blonde and ordered lots of pizza with lots of tasty meat on it.
 
Originally posted by: NewPhone
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: NewPhone
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: Jeff7
All in favor of allowing product testing on NewPhone?


Why ban it for cats and dogs, but not rats?

Are cows ok? Horses? Chimps? Tapirs?

Fuck those Tapirs. damn scammers!

Ahahah cheers zinfamous :beer:

And yes, I am now done with the semester, so that :beer: represents a real one 😉

no i do not think they should test on those animals either. But if they ban testing on those cats and dogs first that most people will vote for then the next law can ban testing on other animals. Plus Cats and Dogs are very speical because they have done so much for Humans.

So other than being seeing eye dogs, and cats crapping in a sandbox tell me just what have animals done for us?

I personally love animals, I have 2 cats but you are clearly retarded in your reasoning...



countless times dogs have saved human lives.
also police uses dogs
fire dept uses dogs
people with pets live longer and are happier

You do realize the police department will send in a dog to take the bullet for the officers that will be standing outside, right?
 
Originally posted by: slackwarelinux
Originally posted by: NewPhone
They (who?) need to ban animal testing on cats and dogs, because they have done so much for humans.

The law should be specific to cats and dogs only. If you try to ban animal testing on all animals people (who?) will want (poor word choice) medical stuff (poor word choice) tested on other animals such as rats. If you only ban it for cats and dogs no politician that wants to get re-elected or the has a brain or that has a heart will try to block the laws. (appeal to emotion, weak argument)


D+, needs more work.

Yeah........ reading the OP........ my head almost exploded. I think it would make baby hooked on phonic Jesus cry 🙁

Cheers,
Aquaman
 
Why just on cats and dogs? Because they're cute? Because they've done so much to benefit humans? Other animals fall under that heading too.
 
OK. I will now randomly test products on all cats and dogs I can catch in my neighborhood.
I may have to get a trap other than a spring trap. Time will tell.
 
Originally posted by: NewPhone
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: NewPhone
Originally posted by: Howard
Get the **** out of here, now!


only a insecure loser would use language like that. You are basically saying I lack self confidence and therefore I need to add a bad word to make my self feel bigger. It?s like Napoleon syndrome for speech and text

You act smarter than you are.

What is wrong with testing on animals?

If cows could conduct tests on you, they would...in a heartbeat

if you want to test on something then test on rats

Do not test on Dogs
My pet rat hates the OP.

 
The OP is a perfect example of what happens when we fail to teach children the difference between thinking and feeling.

Too many people today are confusing feeling with thinking and resorting to knee-jerk emotional responses to issues.

Time to stop the "self esteem" crap in schools and get back to basic logic and critical thinking.

 
Originally posted by: NewPhone
Originally posted by: rudeguy
I love how all these people are all in favor of animal rights but they have family sized jars of peanut butter on their headboards....

people that are selfish and want testing on cats and dogs are the ones with the low iq

And I'm sure you have proof to back that up. Please post some.
 
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: NewPhone
Originally posted by: rudeguy
I love how all these people are all in favor of animal rights but they have family sized jars of peanut butter on their headboards....

people that are selfish and want testing on cats and dogs are the ones with the low iq

And I'm sure you have proof to back that up. Please post some.



Proof positive that the OP has a low IQ.
 
Common platforms for scientific testing, in order of complexity:
E. Coli (bacteria) -- cheap to culture, very fast replication, easy
S. Cerevisiae (yeast) -- cheap to culture, FREAKING INDESTRUCTIBLE, slightly slower replication. Simplest eukaryote commonly used.
D. Melanogaster (fruit fly) -- a little bit more expensive to culture, bit more of a pain to deal with, but multicellular eukaryote. Reproduction is fairly fast (but nothing compared to the single-celled organisms). No one cares about invertebrates.
D. Rerio (zebrafish) -- A little bit more expensive yet. More complex organism. Simplest vertebrate commonly used. Reproduction is, again, slower. Animal rights people start to shift around uncomfortably.
M. Musculus (mouse) -- Expensive. Simple mammal. Slightly closer to human physiology, but still pretty far off. Much more paperwork, much slower reproduction. PETA might firebomb your office, but most people understand the need for a mammal model.
C. Lupus (dog) -- Expensive. Slow reproduction. Slow maturation. Good respiratory and circulatory similarity to humans. OP might mail you anthrax.


Basically, the pressure on scientists not to test on dogs and other "higher" organisms is financial, not moral. Believe me, if we could test every single drug on E. Coli and get good results, we would. No one likes having to pay for dogs. No one really LIKES having to test on dogs. Plus the ethics boards are all over you to make sure that they don't suffer (which is good, but involves a lot of paperwork!).

But ultimately, people > dogs, and I can 100% guarantee that you have directly benefitted from animal research. Ever died of smallpox? No? How about polio, ever gotten that? What do you expect us to test new drugs on, third world children?

Originally posted by: rudeguy
I love how all these people are all in favor of animal rights but they have family sized jars of peanut butter on their headboards....

Won't somebody please think of the peanuts😕
 
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