Baldur's Gate

junkerman123

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you...

Does this quote not represent what D&D is so often about? How many times have you played through an RPG only to wonder what it would be like to do it again while being horribly, gruesomely evil?

It's little touches like this quote that make the great RPG's just a touch above the good ones. The Baldur's Gate series is delightful, if you like D&D, get it and play it.
 

junkerman123

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Not really news here.
On the other hand, I'll be damned if I argue with you.

Best way to win an argument is to state the obvious as my mum always told me!
 

ubercaffeinated

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Originally posted by: junkerman123
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you...

Does this quote not represent what D&D is so often about? How many times have you played through an RPG only to wonder what it would be like to do it again while being horribly, gruesomely evil?

It's little touches like this quote that make the great RPG's just a touch above the good ones. The Baldur's Gate series is delightful, if you like D&D, get it and play it.


HALF A DECADE LATE, AND A DOLLAR SHORT is what shortylickens meant.
 

ubercaffeinated

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yes, great game though. too bad we have to wait years inbetween for games like that to come out. NWN2 HURRY UP! COME OUT OF THE OVEN.
 

Ika

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BG2 and IWD2 had some of the coolest quotes I'd seen in a game. The only ones that tops them are "all your base are belong to us" and "somebody set up us the bomb"
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: junkerman123
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you...

Does this quote not represent what D&D is so often about? How many times have you played through an RPG only to wonder what it would be like to do it again while being horribly, gruesomely evil?

It's little touches like this quote that make the great RPG's just a touch above the good ones. The Baldur's Gate series is delightful, if you like D&D, get it and play it.

That's a quote by Nietzsche btw.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: junkerman123
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you...

Does this quote not represent what D&D is so often about? How many times have you played through an RPG only to wonder what it would be like to do it again while being horribly, gruesomely evil?

It's little touches like this quote that make the great RPG's just a touch above the good ones. The Baldur's Gate series is delightful, if you like D&D, get it and play it.

That's a quote by Nietzsche btw.


Was just going to throw that out there. That opening actually started my Nietzsche and the n existentialist studies. BG rulllleessss.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: Aflac
BG2 and IWD2 had some of the coolest quotes I'd seen in a game. The only ones that tops them are "all your base are belong to us" and "somebody set up us the bomb"

Are you kidding? Baldur's Gate II had awful script writing and the voice actors that said the lines are even worse. I love the game but just press 1 or enter as fast as possible to ignore all the cheesy fantasy crap that they say in that game. Edwin is an exception but most of the others were pretty lame.
 

BW86

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I've never played Baldurs Gate and I'm thinking about borrowing it from my friend. He said he has both 1 and 2. Which one do you guys think I should get? Is one that much better than the other?
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: Aflac
BG2 and IWD2 had some of the coolest quotes I'd seen in a game. The only ones that tops them are "all your base are belong to us" and "somebody set up us the bomb"

Are you kidding? Baldur's Gate II had awful script writing and the voice actors that said the lines are even worse. I love the game but just press 1 or enter as fast as possible to ignore all the cheesy fantasy crap that they say in that game. Edwin is an exception but most of the others were pretty lame.

did you ever listen to minsc, keldorn, or anomen? the BG series has some of the best voice acting in games, period!
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
did you ever listen to minsc, keldorn, or anomen? the BG series has some of the best voice acting in games, period!

Keldorn is ok too but Minsc was very annoying and Anomen was just your average British sounding fantasy character.
 

skace

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Not as cool as planescape's "What can change the nature of a man" infamous question.

But that BG / Nietzsche quote shares a common theme with Berserk, which is just as freakin awesome.
 

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Originally posted by: BW86
I've never played Baldurs Gate and I'm thinking about borrowing it from my friend. He said he has both 1 and 2. Which one do you guys think I should get? Is one that much better than the other?

Get Baldurs Gate 1 - play it and be amazed. Repeat with Baldurs Gate 2 :D :beer:
 

junkerman123

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I liked BG1 more than 2, but that's only because I like working with a lower-level character and building him up, I thought the rest of the games in the series were also fantastic though.

It just seems so freaking rare that a truly great RPG comes along...I can pretty much count the ones from the past 10 years on one hand: Fallout 1 and 2, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, Oblivion. Games like Morrowind, Arcanum, NWN are all very very good, and quite fun, but they are just missing that one last little step that makes an RPG truly amazing. If only people used early 90s concepts with current graphics to make RPG's.

Edit: And I knew that it was a Nietzsche quote thank you very much. :) Although I believe the two parts of the quote are actually separate, Bioware just put them together. :thumbsup:
 

Ika

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: Aflac
BG2 and IWD2 had some of the coolest quotes I'd seen in a game. The only ones that tops them are "all your base are belong to us" and "somebody set up us the bomb"

Are you kidding? Baldur's Gate II had awful script writing and the voice actors that said the lines are even worse. I love the game but just press 1 or enter as fast as possible to ignore all the cheesy fantasy crap that they say in that game. Edwin is an exception but most of the others were pretty lame.

did you ever listen to minsc, keldorn, or anomen? the BG series has some of the best voice acting in games, period!

Edwin (and for a kick, Edwina) FTFW!
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: Aflac
BG2 and IWD2 had some of the coolest quotes I'd seen in a game. The only ones that tops them are "all your base are belong to us" and "somebody set up us the bomb"

Are you kidding? Baldur's Gate II had awful script writing and the voice actors that said the lines are even worse. I love the game but just press 1 or enter as fast as possible to ignore all the cheesy fantasy crap that they say in that game. Edwin is an exception but most of the others were pretty lame.


What's the point in playing a story rich RPG when you're going to ignroe the cheesy fantasy crap? That's half the fun :p
 

Dethfrumbelo

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Originally posted by: skace
Not as cool as planescape's "What can change the nature of a man" infamous question.

But that BG / Nietzsche quote shares a common theme with Berserk, which is just as freakin awesome.

You mean Berserk, the manga/anime series? Kono sekai niwa...




 

crownjules

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Originally posted by: junkerman123
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you...

When you gaze into the abyss, take care the abyss does not gaze into you.

- Nietzche, "Beyond Good and Evil" (not the video game, either)
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
What's the point in playing a story rich RPG when you're going to ignroe the cheesy fantasy crap? That's half the fun :p

Long gameplay at billions of different options to upgrade your characters. When a friend made his mage he actually got pissed off that he had to choose between hundreds of different spells.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
What's the point in playing a story rich RPG when you're going to ignroe the cheesy fantasy crap? That's half the fun :p

Long gameplay at billions of different options to upgrade your characters. When a friend made his mage he actually got pissed off that he had to choose between hundreds of different spells.


Ah, more of a hack n' slasher?
 

skace

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Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
You mean Berserk, the manga/anime series? Kono sekai niwa...

Yea. Although I have no idea what you said because I've never learned a lick of japaneese.
 

Ika

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
What's the point in playing a story rich RPG when you're going to ignroe the cheesy fantasy crap? That's half the fun :p

Long gameplay at billions of different options to upgrade your characters. When a friend made his mage he actually got pissed off that he had to choose between hundreds of different spells.

Yeah that's one reason why I don't play Baldur's Gate. The artifact/spell selection pisses me off, as well as the sidequest mumbo-jumbo. There's too damn many of them....!!