Balance The FEDERAL Budget

[MotF Bane]

Defense is a national issue.

Educataion and infrastructure are largely state issues. Children do not attend national schools - they attend state schools. What good is the department of education getting us? NCLB? Stafford loans? Things like that can be handled at a state level.

You might run into a problem with out-of-state college students. NH will say "you're going to Harvard, so use MA's loan program", and MA will say "you're from NH, use their loan program".

 

[heyheybooboo]

If we could tax Anus and BLABBER troll threads we could easily return to the days of $200 billion surpluses in the Unified Budget.





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[jstern01]

They're the same ones that voted to give the unions their generous pensions.

That would be.... the CEO's of major companies!

 

[theeedude]

Balance the 2010 FEDERAL budget.
Remember, nothing is stopping your state, county, city, ect. from providing local services.

Umm, in case you haven't noticed, states, counties, and cities are having even bigger budget problems that ARE stopping them from providing local services.

 

[yllus]

Eliminate
$290 billion – Medicaid
$51.7 billion – Department of State and Other International Programs
$47.5 billion – Department of Housing and Urban Development
$46.7 billion – Department of Education
$26.0 billion – Department of Agriculture
$13.8 billion – Department of Commerce
$13.3 billion – Department of Labor
$1.1 billion – Corporation for National and Community Service
$105 billion – Other

Reduce
$663.7 billion – Department of Defense (including Overseas Contingency Operations) (10%)

Great priorities you've got there. Cut Medicaid, education, agriculture, labour and science entirely but heaven forbid you give the military anything more than the slightest haircut.

 

[Deeko]

You might run into a problem with out-of-state college students. NH will say "you're going to Harvard, so use MA's loan program", and MA will say "you're from NH, use their loan program".

Yea, out of state schools would be a snag to deal with, but I think whichever state you (or your parents, if you're a dependant like most college students) reside in should be the state that handles your government-backed loans. That's where the tax money to fund it comes from, so that's where the funds should come from, ya know?

 

[Deeko]

Umm, in case you haven't noticed, states, counties, and cities are having even bigger budget problems that ARE stopping them from providing local services.

That's because typically states/cities are not allowed to operate under a defecit. They are required to balance their budget.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Education is a state issue until your country is filled with illiterate retards.

replace education and illiterate retards with department and problem of your choice.

 

[Hacp]

That would be.... the CEO's of major companies!

Ceos already cut pensions and union workers. Only place union workers are increasing is the government. Government is the only entity stupid enough to hire union workers.

 

[Patranus]

Umm, in case you haven't noticed, states, counties, and cities are having even bigger budget problems that ARE stopping them from providing local services.

If the states, counties, and cities could tax tax the 40% the federal government takes instead of the 10% they are able to tax, would they still be having those problems?

If the states, counties, and cities told the federal government to fuck off with their "unfunded mandates" (which over step their authority) would they still be having those problems?

 

[Genx87]

hehe, if it were only as easy as changing some numbers, it would have been done Decades ago.

Isnt that what democrats did when they supposedly slashed Medicare to make the healthcare bill revenu neutral?

 

[Hacp]

Umm, in case you haven't noticed, states, counties, and cities are having even bigger budget problems that ARE stopping them from providing local services.

The difference is that citizens can choose to move out of the state and get away from all the problems of that said state. If the state wants to have huge unfunded pensions, all people need to do if they are discontent is to move to a state without the taxes and liabilities.

 

[ElFenix]

If we could tax Anus and BLABBER troll threads we could easily return to the days of $200 billion surpluses in the Unified Budget.





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when were those?

 

[Genx87]

Education is a state issue until your country is filled with illiterate retards.

replace education and illiterate retards with department and problem of your choice.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news...ng-scores-hold-steady-on-nationwide-test.html

Fourth-grade students scored 221 on average out of a 500-point scale, with 33 percent at the proficient level, which is considered at grade level. Eighth-graders scored an average of 264, with 32 percent considered proficient. The scores for each grade are four points higher than they were in 1992.

 

[cubby1223]

(The April Fools joke is that the federal budget cannot be balanced)

Gotta start somewhere, though...

Like the other day when Obama was selling his college load changes rammed through on a health care bill for some reason only the corrupt "progressives" know...

Obama first states that these changes will save the government like $70 billion - and I'm like HELL YEAH!!!

... then he continues right on to say he will reinvest all the money ... FUCK!!!!

Moral of the story is, I hate liberals.

 

[Deeko]

Gotta start somewhere, though...

Like the other day when Obama was selling his college load changes rammed through on a health care bill for some reason only the corrupt "progressives" know...

Obama first states that these changes will save the government like $70 billion - and I'm like HELL YEAH!!!

... then he continues right on to say he will reinvest all the money ... FUCK!!!!

Moral of the story is, I hate liberals.

Meh, both sides are terrible when it comes to this issue. Look at defecits under "conservative" regimes the past three decades....they skyrocketed.

 

[marincounty]

You had your chance to vote for Al Gore and his lockbox, but you blew it. 🙂

 

[Anarchist420]

I would abolish all but the four original executive departments, and have them as they were in 1792, with nothing added other than different people and a different building I guess. I would abandon all military bases not on U.S. soil and remove all troops from foreign lands immediately, if I were president. I would have popular sovereignty at the state level fund Medicare and SS, and my budget would look like this:
DoWar 100B
DoState 5B
DoTreasury 5B
DoJ 5B

and whatever the Interest on national debt

 

[Harvey]

Balance the 2010 FEDERAL budget.
Remember, nothing is stopping your state, county, city, ect. from providing local services.

Total revenue: $2.381 trillion
Total expenditures: $3.552 trillion
Deficit: $1.171 trillion
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Discretionary spending: $1.368 trillion
$663.7 billion – Department of Defense (including Overseas Contingency Operations)
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$42.7 billion – Department of Homeland Security

Since when does any right wingnut consider defense and homeland security as "discretionary?" A quick review of your posting history supporting the Bushwhackos war of LIES in Iraq shows you're blithering hypocrite.
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$52.5 billion – Department of Veterans Affairs

And it says much more and much worse about you that you consider funding the Department of Veterans Affairs to be "discretionary." Remember, those are the folks we send to fight and die to support the activities of the DOD. I'm sure implimenting your dumbass priorities tossing military casualties under the bugetary bus the will encourage plenty of able bodies to sign up for our volunteer military. 🙄

Mandatory" spending: $2.184 trillion
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$164 billion – Interest on National Debt

While we're evaluating your brilliant ideas, do you happen to recall whose illegal war of LIES in Iraq is responsible for trillions of dollars of that debt? 😕

Can you give us any reason why your post paints you as anything other than a hypocritical moron? :whiste:

 

[Patranus]

Since when does any right wingnut consider defense and homeland security as "discretionary?" A quick review of your posting history supporting the Bushwhackos war of LIES in Iraq shows you're blithering hypocrite.
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And it says much more and much worse about you that you consider funding the Department of Veterans Affairs to be "discretionary." Remember, those are the folks we send to fight and die to support the activities of the DOD. I'm sure implimenting your dumbass priorities tossing military casualties under the bugetary bus the will encourage plenty of able bodies to sign up for our volunteer military. 🙄



While we're evaluating your brilliant ideas, do you happen to recall whose illegal war of LIES in Iraq is responsible for trillions of dollars of that debt? 😕

Can you give us any reason why your post paints you as anything other than a hypocritical moron? :whiste:

I didn't categorize those categories as "discretionary" spending, the government did.

 

[theeedude]

If the states, counties, and cities could tax tax the 40% the federal government takes instead of the 10% they are able to tax, would they still be having those problems?

If the states, counties, and cities told the federal government to fuck off with their "unfunded mandates" (which over step their authority) would they still be having those problems?

The difference is that citizens can choose to move out of the state and get away from all the problems of that said state. If the state wants to have huge unfunded pensions, all people need to do if they are discontent is to move to a state without the taxes and liabilities.

And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

 

[Harvey]

I didn't categorize those categories as "discretionary" spending, the government did.

Irrelevant. This is the second time, today alone, you've started a thread to pimp some patently absurd idea, cut and pasted some text as justification for it, then, when you're called on it, tried to back away from owning your own bullshit. 🙄

In this thread, you posted only one paragraph of a story in the WSJ with a title that strongly implied Obama is a racist. When I busted your chops for not including the following paragraph, let alone any more of the article, that put the quote in context, you tried to pull the same shit as you're doing here by pointing to your quote and denying the obvious meaning of your thread title and OP.

Do you understand the meaning of "pathetic, disingenuous hypocrite?" If you need help with the big words, just grab a mirror. :hmm:

 

[Patranus]

Irrelevant. This is the second time, today alone, you've started a thread to pimp some patently absurd idea, cut and pasted some text as justification for it, then, when you're called on it, tried to back away from owning your own bullshit. 🙄

I never knew examining the current state of the federal budget was an "absurd idea".
Thank you for enlightening me.
Lets just ignore the problem and not talk about possible solution to fixing it.

In this thread, you posted only one paragraph of a story in the WSJ with a title that strongly implied Obama is a racist. When I busted your chops for not including the following paragraph, let alone any more of the article, that put the quote in context, you tried to pull the same shit as you're doing here by pointing to your quote and denying the obvious meaning of your thread title and OP.

Looks to me like quite a few other posters agree that affirmative action policies are in fact "racist" (under its current definition).

Do you understand the meaning of "pathetic, disingenuous hypocrite?" If you need help with the big words, just grab a mirror. :hmm:

How are is having an adult conversation on an internet forum "dangerous"?
How are either of the two posts you point out "hypocritical"?

I am sorry if you do not agree with my political views but quite a few of my views are shared by posters here and are fairly main stream throughout America (according to polling data).

 

[piasabird]

Sure if you just reduced federal taxes, the state could have its own tax and not send it to the federal government which wastes 2/3rd of all funds you send it in administrative costs.

The problem is the community college is where the poorest of the poor get help in their education needs. Whithout this help only rich people could afford to go to college.

 

[Harvey]

I never knew examining the current state of the federal budget was an "absurd idea".
Thank you for enlightening me.
Lets just ignore the problem and not talk about possible solution to fixing it.

Disingenuous, hypocritical statement, #1. In fact, your OP didn't state or define any problem related to the Federal budget, let alone "discuss" or talk about any ideas related to it. Your only original words were:

Balance the 2010 FEDERAL budget.
Remember, nothing is stopping your state, county, city, ect. from providing local services.

You then posted a list of manditory and discretionary expenditures from the budget, but you didn't say jack shit about which of those expenditures should, or even could, be cut in the real world. You didn't "discuss" anything, nor did you posit any ideas worthy of discussion by sentient human beings.

All you did was mumble some inane crap suggesting that over-stretched states, counties and cities could provide "local services" which convenienetly suggests that those services would suffice to replace those provided by the Federal government and listed as "discretionary."

If you think you can make that point, have the balls to post some serious ideas about how that could be accomplished.

Looks to me like quite a few other posters agree that affirmative action policies are in fact "racist" (under its current definition).

Disingenuous, hypocritical statement, #2. What people think of "affirmative action" is irrelevant. In the other thread, your title, the quote of one paragraph from your linked article out of context and the rest of your OP were blatantly racist. I called you on your hypocritical bullshit, including where I replied:

The title of your thread is:

Where did I claim that Obama was a racist?

I simply put that he is pushing a policy that IS by definition racist.

The title of your thread is:

Obama Pushes Racist College Admissions Policies Reply to Thread

Your OP quotes ONLY the first paragraph of the article which, in isolation and without the rest of the story, implies that the Obama administration is "pushing" (note the strongly active verb) an indiscriminate racist policy. That simply is not the case. What they actually did was ask the court to uphold a 2003 Supreme Court decision, which, incidentally, occurred on the watch of your thankfully EX-Traitor In Chief.

How was that NOT implying Obama is a racist? 😕

Then, you concluded your OP with this blunderbus indictment that includes everyone having a "progressive" political viewpoint.

Yet another example of the "progressive" institutionalizing racism.

At best, your entire post is intellectually dishonest. At worst, it is, itself, blatantly racist. :thumbsdown:

If you truly did not intend your post to include any racist meaning or implication, try posting that as a declarative statement instead of trying to divert attention from it and weaseling around the issue with a lame rhetorical question. And while you're at it, you could include an apology for the obvious racist implications of what you actually posted.

If you can't manage that, you're a total fraud and a waste of everyone's time.

How are is having an adult conversation on an internet forum "dangerous"?
How are either of the two posts you point out "hypocritical"?

That's only three out of three disingenuous, hypocritical statements. You posted nothing resembling participation in "an adult conversation." You couldn't even manage a straight ahead declarative statement that you didn't intend racism in that thread. All you posted was hypocritical bullshit and evasive, dissembling rhetorical questions, just as you did in this thread.

I am sorry if you do not agree with my political views but quite a few of my views are shared by posters here and are fairly main stream throughout America (according to polling data).

Just like your views throughout the administration of your Mercifully EX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal's illegal war in Iraq, their illegal use of torture and other war crimes and crimes against humanity, their shredding of the rights guaranteed to every American citizen under our once honored, once valued U.S. Constitution are "shared by posters here and are fairly main stream throughout America." :'(

In a word... BULLSHIT!!! :thumbsdown: