Bain is the reason Romney will lose this election

[OneOfTheseDays]

Bain just sticks. It will not go away no matter what Romney does. Ultimately Obama will define him as a swindler who ripped companies off and laid off thousands of people to make himself and his rich friends even richer.

Here's the thing, it doesn't matter if this is the truth or not. There's no effective counter argument to this that you can explain in laymans terms to the average person. With angst against Wall Street at an all time high, the Republicans did perhaps the dumbest thing they could do and nominated the guy who lived and breathed Wall Street his entire life.

This will single handedly undermine any economic advantage he has over Obama once the full bore of scrutiny is upon him. Swift boating will be nothing compared to this. It's all Obama needs to take him out.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Obama and especially Romney are why Romney is going to lose. Do you know how many people in this country are bullied every year by some prick like Mitt? If he wins it is just proof that the voting system is rigged.

 

[santz]

only time will tell...

 

[Anarchist420]

What's actually going to be his downfall is his when he starts talking about the deficit, because he's already said he wants to raise military spending by $150Bn in the first year.

When Romney talks about the deficit, it's just as ironic as how Obama's 2008 campaign slogan was "Change"

 

[Doppel]

Gotta hand it to the Republicans. Romney is a really bad pick right now.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Eh, it's way too early to be writing anyone or anything off.

Much as I dislike Romney, there are effective counters to the Bain attacks.

Prodigy is correct, though, that Romney's biggest problem is Romney. He's a dislikable phony with a very questionable track record, and he's also incredibly gaffe-prone (which is why he is currently hiding from the media, pretty much).

As for Romney being a bad pick, if you were watching during the primaries, you know that the Republican voters recognized that. Unfortunately for them, there wasn't anyone better.

And that's what the election may boil down to as well -- Obama's not the best, but there's not anyone better being offered.

 

[Genx87]

Romney will lose because Romney isnt a compelling pick. What is his major policy difference from Obama? Bailouts, check, form of universal healthcare, check, expanded military, check, war mongering, check. Both tossed people out on their ass. Romney while at Bain, Obama with the govt take over of GM. So one used a private organization while the other used a public. Whoopie effing do.

 

[a777pilot]

What's is wrong with Bain. They were very successful. Bain created a lot of jobs and money for many people.

 

[nageov3t]

and here I thought he'd lose because Obama is a brilliant campaigner and the fact that it's inherently hard to unseat a sitting president.

but no... clearly, it's Bain.

 

[nextJin]

What's is wrong with Bain. They were very successful. Bain created a lot of jobs and money for many people.

Well for liberals since they laid off people from failing businesses or had to sell off bad investments they are pretty much enemy number one. If your a free market guy then what they did was try and turn a profit off failing businesses and reorganize them. If they failed with the venture they would have to cut their losses. When the government does this they don't cut their losses they just use taxpayers to keep the boat floating.

Attacking Bain is basically like asking for a birth certificate they are both a bunch of bs playing to an ignorant public.

 

[nehalem256]

Why doesnt he just claim he had no idea what Bain was doing?

After all it worked out ok for Obama and his pastor.

 

[a777pilot]

Why doesnt he just claim he had no idea what Bain was doing?

After all it worked out ok for Obama and his pastor.

LOL!

Good one, but Romney is not "black" so it would not work.

 

[cybrsage]

Bain is only convincing those who love Obama that they should vote for Obama. Obama is clinging to it as if it is his lifeline, but it really is nothing. Obama would be better off calling him Bush and running against Bush again. Those who like Obama are already quite happy with him always blaming Bush for things anyway.

 

[xBiffx]

Bain is the reason Romney will lose this election

ROFL. I am going to get a real kick out of Obama attacking someone else's resume. I am going to get a huge laugh out of the liberal media comparing one to the other and trying to say that Romney's stinks while Obama's is somehow perfect. ROFL.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

The backlash against Obama's smear ads continues to escalate within the party.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/dem_ads_to_chorus_against_mitt_bashing_rCe2mZflGVfTyVzktgoJ0O

Dem ‘ads’ to chorus against Mitt-bashing

President Obama’s Bain damage is only getting worse.

Former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell became the latest Democratic heavyweight to break with Obama over his TV ads that demonize Mitt Romney’s corporate-raider career at Bain Capital.

“They’re very disappointing,” said Rendell. “I think Bain is fair game . . . But I think how you examine it, the tone, what you say, is important as well.”

It also emerged that a big Obama fund-raiser is a longtime Bain executive who was deeply involved in 2000 shutdown of American Pad & Paper of Marion, Ind. — which is the focus of an Obama attack ad.

Boston Celtics co-owner Jonathan Lavine, who has raised more than $200,000 for Obama, represented Bain on the paper company’s board, making him more involved than Romney, ABC News reported.

Romney yesterday raked in nearly $5 million at a fund-raiser in New York City with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, bringing his haul from a three-day swing through the region to $15 million.

“We need to do everything we can together to make sure this November we show Barack Obama the door,” Christie told the crowd of 400 donors.

The Bain blowback was started by Newark Mayor Cory Booker, a Democrat, who called the ads nauseating in a Sunday interview.

 

[cybrsage]

I think it is because people like Rendell have just as many similiar skeletons in their closets and they do not want Obama creating an atmosphere where these things are front and center.

Obama is known for throwing his own party under the bus though...

 

[PricklyPete]

In my opinion, Bain is the only reason he should win.

 

[QuantumPion]

Obama has a good chance of being relected since he well understands that lying big, frequently, and in a shotgun approach can fool enough of the people to win. Romney I fear, after going all out against Newt and Santorum, will wussy out and turn into McCain in the general election. Right now I predict Obama will win although the situation could easily change depending on how the campaign goes.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Obama has a good chance of being relected since he well understands that lying big, frequently, and in a shotgun approach can fool enough of the people to win.

Congratulations - you just described Romney's GOP primary campaign in full. There's no reason to believe that the general will be any different.

What exactly is Obama lying about, incidentally? Just curious if you actually have any specific objections or you are just ranting like everyone else.

Attacking Bain is basically like asking for a birth certificate they are both a bunch of bs playing to an ignorant public.

Some of these comments are pretty mind-boggling. You folks really have yourselves convinced of whatever you want to believe.

Attacking Bain is not "like asking for a birth certificate". Bain is a key part of Romney's record and the basis upon which he is claiming to be qualified to be president.

It's every bit as relevant as Obama's record as president. And not in any way comparable to the "birtherism" foolishness.

 

[xBiffx]

Bain is a key part of Romney's record and the basis upon which he is claiming to be qualified to be president.

No, it isn't. He is claiming much more than Bain. Bain is just all the left wants to focus on right now because it gives the best bang for the buck in the derailing department at the moment.

 

[cybrsage]

It's every bit as relevant as Obama's record as president. And not in any way comparable to the "birtherism" foolishness.

If Obama runs on his record he will ensure his own loss. That is why you do not hear him mentioning his record, but instead attacking his opponent.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

No, it isn't. He is claiming much more than Bain. Bain is just all the left wants to focus on right now because it gives the best bang for the buck in the derailing department at the moment.

He worked at Bain from 1977-1999 roughly.

Thats most of his working life.

 

[xBiffx]

He worked at Bain from 1977-1999 roughly.

Thats most of his working life.

So the amount of time worked at a particular institution is all that matters? If he worked as a shoe clerk for 20+ years would that have more weight than four years as governor?

Furthermore, he started heading Bain Capital in 1984. Before he was working at but not in charge of Bain and Company. Two totally different entities. Fifteen years is not much time for a 65 year old.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Fuck Bain, failure should not lead to profit. That in and of itself is why people do not believe in capitalism anymore. What point is there in selling the profit motive when I can artificially create a profit and work in an environment with zero risk to my financial well being whilst also having a vested interest in making a company fail?

Imagine every person you hired working under this environment.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

No, it isn't. He is claiming much more than Bain. Bain is just all the left wants to focus on right now because it gives the best bang for the buck in the derailing department at the moment.

Sorry, but Romney's entire campaign is oriented around his being a "great businessman". Examining his business record is entirely appropriate.

If Obama runs on his record he will ensure his own loss. That is why you do not hear him mentioning his record, but instead attacking his opponent.

This is flatly false. Obama *is* running on his record, he has put out numerous ads discussing it and will put out many more.

If you care so much about running on record, then you should have no problem discussing what Romney did at Bain. Furthermore, let's also discuss what he did in Massachusetts. Oh wait -- Romney doesn't want to talk about his signature achievement (universal healthcare) or his actual record in job creation (abysmal).

So the amount of time worked at a particular institution is all that matters? If he worked as a shoe clerk for 20+ years would that have more weight than four years as governor?

He doesn't want to talk about either.

Romney is running from his record far more than Obama is.