Bahamas: Marital rape bill runs into opposition

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: JEDI
Coralee Clarke told the Journal that although she is not married, she believes that a man is entitled to sex from his wife whenever he feels like it.

I'm guessing that here is a woman who's never actually been raped.

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: Phokus

"It is ridiculous for them to try to make that a law, because I don?t think a man can rape his own wife. After two people get married, the Bible says that they become one ? one flesh. How is it possible to rape what is yours?" asked Mr. Sutherland.

:roll:

The Bible also says if a man kills your son, you can kill his. If he sleeps with his wife, you can kill him, or something. Plus a bunch of other "eye for an eye" guidelines (he kills your calf you get like 20 shekels and bullshit like that)

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: yh125d

Originally posted by: Phokus

"It is ridiculous for them to try to make that a law, because I don?t think a man can rape his own wife. After two people get married, the Bible says that they become one ? one flesh. How is it possible to rape what is yours?" asked Mr. Sutherland.

:roll:

The Bible also says if a man kills your son, you can kill his. If he sleeps with his wife, you can kill him, or something. Plus a bunch of other "eye for an eye" guidelines (he kills your calf you get like 20 shekels and bullshit like that)

touch the flesh of dead swine, wear cloth made from two types of fabric

 

[Gothgar]

haha, wow

 

[SlitheryDee]

There is something strange about rape in a marriage setting. I've always considered married couples as a single "unit"; no more capable of raping each other than I am capable of raping myself. I know that's not right...but I still have a "wait...what"? moment every time I think about it.

 

[SonnyDaze]

Coralee Clarke told the Journal that although she is not married, she believes that a man is entitled to sex from his wife whenever he feels like it.

I like her style. 😎 She will make a great wife.

 

[Rastus]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: BudAshes
Martial rape lol. Is that the final thing you have to learn before you are a martial arts master?

Yep, that move is right up there with the 5 point exploding donkey punch and the Hadouken.

fixed

 

[paulney]

Marshmallow rape?

 

[Liet]

I knew a girl with an abusive husband and two young kids, who she was trying to leave. She'd kicked him out of the house and was working to get a divorce. One day she gets home from work, opens the door, and he slugs her in the face and fucks her. Sounds like rape to me.

 

[Bibble]

Spousal rape was not a crime in England until 1991 or 1992. I think most people will come around eventually (hopefully).

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: Bibble
I think most people will come around eventually (hopefully).

I see what you did there

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: Liet
I knew a girl with an abusive husband and two young kids, who she was trying to leave. She'd kicked him out of the house and was working to get a divorce. One day she gets home from work, opens the door, and he slugs her in the face and fucks her. Sounds like rape to me.

I'd like to slug him in the face and rape him... not in a gay way, but like in a punitive way.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Liet
I knew a girl with an abusive husband and two young kids, who she was trying to leave. She'd kicked him out of the house and was working to get a divorce. One day she gets home from work, opens the door, and he slugs her in the face and fucks her. Sounds like rape to me.

also should have been able to be prosecuted under current rape law.
dont need another one for this special case.

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Liet
I knew a girl with an abusive husband and two young kids, who she was trying to leave. She'd kicked him out of the house and was working to get a divorce. One day she gets home from work, opens the door, and he slugs her in the face and fucks her. Sounds like rape to me.

also should have been able to be prosecuted under current rape law.
dont need another one for this special case.

Unfortunately, that is not the case in the Bahamas and many other nations, and it is only recently (1993) that spousal rape has been outlawed in all 50 states.

Wiki

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: JEDI
http://forums.somethingawful.c...d.php?threadid=3187137

"Even if a woman says no to her husband it still can?t be considered surprise sex because she is his wife. He already paid his dues at the church and she already said ?I do,? so from then on, even if [a man] forces sex on his wife, it isn?t surprise sex," he said.

:Q

Coralee Clarke told the Journal that although she is not married, she believes that a man is entitled to sex from his wife whenever he feels like it.

"If a man wants to have sex with his wife he is supposed to [have sex with her] regardless of what the circumstances [are]. I don?t see why he should be charged with raping his own wife, she is never supposed to say no," said Ms. Clarke.

"If I were married and my husband wanted to have sex with me I wouldn?t stop him, [because] I?m not supposed to, even if I was tired or feeling sick, I wouldn?t tell him no."

:Q

i'm guessing the feminist movement is weak in the Bahamas.

This one I have a hard time with. I agree, no means no, in every sense of the word. However, it just seems to open a whole alley of crazy law suits. IE "They where both drunk when he had sex with her, now she claims rape" type stuff. Heck, every divorce suit could have a rape attached with it because the wife will say something like "We had sex, but I was afraid to tell him no ect.."

And no, I'm not saying marital rape is not bad or doesn't exist. I'm just saying, that with a couple that has been having sex for several years, it is hard to separate rape from just sex.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: SonnyDaze

Coralee Clarke told the Journal that although she is not married, she believes that a man is entitled to sex from his wife whenever he feels like it.

I like her style. 😎 She will make a great wife.

:beer:

im willing to bet, though, that once shes married she'll be like eeeeeeeeeeeevery other woman

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: JEDI
http://forums.somethingawful.c...d.php?threadid=3187137

"Even if a woman says no to her husband it still can?t be considered surprise sex because she is his wife. He already paid his dues at the church and she already said ?I do,? so from then on, even if [a man] forces sex on his wife, it isn?t surprise sex," he said.

:Q

Coralee Clarke told the Journal that although she is not married, she believes that a man is entitled to sex from his wife whenever he feels like it.

"If a man wants to have sex with his wife he is supposed to [have sex with her] regardless of what the circumstances [are]. I don?t see why he should be charged with raping his own wife, she is never supposed to say no," said Ms. Clarke.

"If I were married and my husband wanted to have sex with me I wouldn?t stop him, [because] I?m not supposed to, even if I was tired or feeling sick, I wouldn?t tell him no."

:Q

i'm guessing the feminist movement is weak in the Bahamas.

This one I have a hard time with. I agree, no means no, in every sense of the word. However, it just seems to open a whole alley of crazy law suits. IE "They where both drunk when he had sex with her, now she claims rape" type stuff. Heck, every divorce suit could have a rape attached with it because the wife will say something like "We had sex, but I was afraid to tell him no ect.."

And no, I'm not saying marital rape is bad or doesn't exist. I'm just saying, that with a couple that has been having sex for several years, it is hard to separate rape from just sex.

Sometimes, it's tough to tell between arson and an accidental fire. Do you "have a hard time" with arson laws?

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: JEDI
http://forums.somethingawful.c...d.php?threadid=3187137

"Even if a woman says no to her husband it still can?t be considered surprise sex because she is his wife. He already paid his dues at the church and she already said ?I do,? so from then on, even if [a man] forces sex on his wife, it isn?t surprise sex," he said.

:Q

Coralee Clarke told the Journal that although she is not married, she believes that a man is entitled to sex from his wife whenever he feels like it.

"If a man wants to have sex with his wife he is supposed to [have sex with her] regardless of what the circumstances [are]. I don?t see why he should be charged with raping his own wife, she is never supposed to say no," said Ms. Clarke.

"If I were married and my husband wanted to have sex with me I wouldn?t stop him, [because] I?m not supposed to, even if I was tired or feeling sick, I wouldn?t tell him no."

:Q

i'm guessing the feminist movement is weak in the Bahamas.

This one I have a hard time with. I agree, no means no, in every sense of the word. However, it just seems to open a whole alley of crazy law suits. IE "They where both drunk when he had sex with her, now she claims rape" type stuff. Heck, every divorce suit could have a rape attached with it because the wife will say something like "We had sex, but I was afraid to tell him no ect.."

And no, I'm not saying marital rape is bad or doesn't exist. I'm just saying, that with a couple that has been having sex for several years, it is hard to separate rape from just sex.

Sometimes, it's tough to tell between arson and an accidental fire. Do you "have a hard time" with arson laws?

Big difference. Marital rape is entirely hearsay in nature. Where as arson requires some level evidence to convict the offender. I don't like laws that can convict someone entirely based on hearsay.

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: Cogman
Big difference. Marital rape is entirely hearsay in nature. Where as arson requires some level evidence to convict the offender. I don't like laws that can convict someone entirely based on hearsay.

I'm not aware of any rape convictions, and certainly no spousal rape convictions, based purely on verbal testimony. But I do know that 8-14% of American women claim to have been raped by their husbands. Text

 

[dmw16]

I am not so sure that marital rape is illegal in all 50 states in this country.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Surprise.... BUTTSECKS!

 

[randay]

what if its a gay couple?

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: dmw16
I am not so sure that marital rape is illegal in all 50 states in this country.

Judging by some of the responses in this thread, I'm not surprised.