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bad to use system hdd for video capturing?

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draggoon01

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hi all, i got 1 western digital 120gb se. wondering if it puts that much more wear on it by using the same drive to catpure video to. is it more likely to break down? do hdd in tivo's break down faster than one's used in pc?

in the same regard, does running windows put much more wear on drive? i have old 6gig, and could run off windows off of that (speed difference isn't that noticeable to me except large file transfers). would that save significant wear on 120gig drive?
 
Originally posted by: isekii
I dont know about you but 6gb is way too small for video capturing ( DV ? )
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oh, i meant those as two separate questions.

the second one about windows off of 6gig, was just tangent thought

i only use about 30gig off of 120gig drive, so in one sense reluctant to buy another drive. but am concerned about hdd failure
 
I've had similar results capturing onto the 160 Ultra Maxtor when it's a boot drive or when its a slave.
Frames will drop; that can't be helped. But having the big/fast drive as slave helps prevent fragmented vid files.

What really helped me minimize frame drops was optimizing XP services 🙂 Try it!
 
Video should always be captured to a seperate drive. Capturing to your system drive will usually kill performance and result in dropped frames.


Lethal
 
Originally posted by: draggoon01
i'm not worried about performance, captures are good. i'm just worried about hdd breaking down.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there was more wear and tear on the HDD sense the same drive is attempting to run programs and provide a constant stream of video.


Lethal
 
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Video should always be captured to a seperate drive. Capturing to your system drive will usually kill performance and result in dropped frames.
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What kind of capture are you talking about. I've never dropped a frame doing vid cap pn my rig with a single 120 Gig HD. Full quality DV capture requires 3.5 MB/s, which is nothing. When I was doing analog cap, I never had any dropped frame problem either. What kind of performance gets "killed"? I've never had that problem either.

 
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Video should always be captured to a seperate drive. Capturing to your system drive will usually kill performance and result in dropped frames.


Lethal
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That is not necessarily true...maybe if you're on a 3 year old, 5400 RPM drive, but any modern 7200 RPM drive should be able to keep up no problem.

wondering if it puts that much more wear on it by using the same drive to catpure video to. is it more likely to break down?
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I guess technically the more you use a drive, the more likely it is to break. However, you will not do any damage to a drive by having an OS on it and also capturing to it Whoever gave you that idea is nuts 🙂 Your 120gig SE will have no problems with captures. Now, that setup WILL probably be slightly slower during editing and encoding, than if you were to have all your capture material on a separate drive. But the difference there is probably like 1, 2, 3 fps if that 🙂
 
Originally posted by: oldfart
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Video should always be captured to a seperate drive. Capturing to your system drive will usually kill performance and result in dropped frames.
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What kind of capture are you talking about. I've never dropped a frame doing vid cap pn my rig with a single 120 Gig HD. Full quality DV capture requires 3.5 MB/s, which is nothing. When I was doing analog cap, I never had any dropped frame problem either. What kind of performance gets "killed"? I've never had that problem either.
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Talk to anyone else who edits for a living and they'll tell you the same thing I did.

If all you are doing is basic cutting of yer home movies then you probably won't have issues but if/when you start doing bigger, more complicated projects it's dropping frames becomes more of an issue. Better safe than sorry, IMO. My media has their own drives and I've never had any problems but if I wanted to I could fairly quickly make a sequence that would push the HDDs past their limits and start dropping frames (DV on a pair of 80gig 7200RPM Maxtors each on their own cable).


The "killed" performance is yer HDD not being able to keep up resulting in dropped frames.


Lethal
 
anyone with tivo have any comments? does the hdd in there seem to last as long as one in a pc?

i plan on using pc like vcr, so it'll be regular records. but again, i've got like 80gigs free, so feel funny buying a new hdd for encoding. but with cheap hdd deals nowadays, i guess it's not a big deal
 
You will want to format your drive to NTFS so you can capture large files. I did this because an hour of video takes up 13 gigs. FAT has a limit of 2.8 gigs. No problems with NTFS. I capture to a separate drive so that I can format the drive after I am done with it to reduce fragmentation and genuinely free up some space.
 
I use a western digital 40 gig 7200 RPM (older drive) that I run windows XP off of and I also capture some video to it.. (hard usage.. and have used it heavily for a long time now)
 
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