Bad performance in SupremeCommander

[manowar821]

So I have an OK system, am2 4200+ @ 2.8ghz, 8800GTX, 4gig 6400 ram, etc.

I can turn all the settings to high, I can even enable 16x AA, and have little/no performance hit. However, my FPS drop to 10-15 if I have my "fidelity" setting at anything but "Low".

All settings at high, even AA x16, with fidelity at low = 40+ fps

All settings at LOW or MED, AA off, with fidelity at MED or HIGH = 10-20fps

What. The. Hell.

Is there a known issue pertaining to this, or is it my CPU speed? I can play at low fidelity, but it's not nearly as satisfying.

Thanks in advance.

 

[stevty2889]

Hmm, you could try using the core maximizer, thats on the supreme commander forums, you shouldn't be having any issues. What resolution are you running at? My X2 is a 2.6ghz, but with a 1900XTX running at 1280x1024 and doesn't seem to have that issue, although I don't use AA.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: stevty2889
Hmm, you could try using the core maximizer, thats on the supreme commander forums, you shouldn't be having any issues. What resolution are you running at? My X2 is a 2.6ghz, but with a 1900XTX running at 1280x1024 and doesn't seem to have that issue, although I don't use AA.

I, too, run at 1280x1024. I'm using Vista, as well, so I shouldn't have to use that dual-core optimizer. I did use it when I had XP installed, but I've been using Vista since this summer. Am I wrong? Do I still have to use the dual-core patch?

And like I said, I can turn AA up all the way and not get any kind of performance hit.

This is so strange!

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: stevty2889
Hmm, you could try using the core maximizer, thats on the supreme commander forums, you shouldn't be having any issues. What resolution are you running at? My X2 is a 2.6ghz, but with a 1900XTX running at 1280x1024 and doesn't seem to have that issue, although I don't use AA.

I, too, run at 1280x1024. I'm using Vista, as well, so I shouldn't have to use that dual-core optimizer. I did use it when I had XP installed, but I've been using Vista since this summer. Am I wrong? Do I still have to use the dual-core patch?

And like I said, I can turn AA up all the way and not get any kind of performance hit.

This is so strange!

Ah, I gave up running games in Vista all together. The only game I've tried that hasn't done considerably worse in Vista was World in Conflict. Supreme Commander kept crashing on me in Vista after about an hour, so I switched back to XP.

Also do you have all the hotfixes installed, and what version of the Nvidia drivers are you using?

 

[manowar821]

Bump, because I still need help on this. Now I've got my 2.2ghz 4200+ overclocked to 2.8ghz... Everything is stable. Newest stable drivers for everything, all my other games run beautifully.

Has anyone else had this happen, or does anyone know how to fix it?

 

[MarcVenice]

What does fidelity do? What's it mean Trying to wrap my mind around what it could be. Can you monitor memory usage? How big is your swapfile? Maybe for some reason either or both are filling up and make things run slow? What about putting fidelity on high, then everything on low and work your way up? Perhaps it's a combination of high fidelity and something else ?

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
What does fidelity do? What's it mean Trying to wrap my mind around what it could be. Can you monitor memory usage? How big is your swapfile? Maybe for some reason either or both are filling up and make things run slow? What about putting fidelity on high, then everything on low and work your way up? Perhaps it's a combination of high fidelity and something else ?

It's the overall quality of the graphics, I'll find a link for you showing the differences...
Here you go:

http://www.gamespot.com/featur...98/p-3.html?msg_sort=1

I have run the game with everything at low and fidelity on med or high, and I still get no more than 20fps.

My system is supposed to run this game on high, according to all the examples I've found.

 

[manowar821]

*ahem* ::shameless bump::

 

[MarcVenice]

You tried reinstalling the game itself ? Updated to the latest drivers, or did you recently update to the latest drivers, that could have caused it perhaps ... And try monitoring your vram and normal ram usage... With your rig and at that resolution it indeed should not be a problem ... Are you running anything in the background? Can you dualboot with XP/Vista ?

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
You tried reinstalling the game itself ? Updated to the latest drivers, or did you recently update to the latest drivers, that could have caused it perhaps ... And try monitoring your vram and normal ram usage... With your rig and at that resolution it indeed should not be a problem ... Are you running anything in the background? Can you dualboot with XP/Vista ?

Hm, perhaps I could reinstall, and then check my ram usage. 4GB should be plenty, but there could be a hole somewhere.

I update drivers usually when they become available, and I just got my GTX, so I don't know how it's supposed to behave... All I know is the game should run at full graphics on my system, in theory.

Thanks!

Edit: Not running anything in the background except for FRAPS. I CAN dual boot, but I don't. I don't have a copy of XP Pro 64. All I have is Solaris 10 and maybe a gentoo disk... lol

 

[stevty2889]

You never answered my questions..what version of the Nvidia drivers(newest stable drivers doesn't really say much) are you using, there are several beta drivers that actually work better than the current release drivers, did you install the microsoft hotfixes related to nvidia and game performance.

I don't think it's ram. When you go over 2gb with Supcom it will just crash(3gb if you use the fix on the GPGnet supreme commander forums, actually did you try posting your problem there?) Also, do you have the latest supcom patch?

You should also try using the core maximizer thats also on the GPGnet forums. Gernally supcom seems to be using the first core heavily, and the second core a little. The core maximizer balaces it out more between the cores, so you have some head room since one core isn't always pegged at 100%, it can make a big differance.