Bad I.T. market? Move to Texas.

[StattlichPassat]

Information Technology

Texas will need up to 57,000 new Systems Analysts, Database Administrators, and Computer Support Specialists within the next seven to ten years. According to the U.S. Department of Commerce's Office of Technology Policy, even the slowest growing occupation, computer programmers at 29.5 percent, is expected to grow at more than twice the average for all other occupations in the nation, currently projected at 14.4 percent growth.

With salaries ranging from $30,000 to over $50,000, IT occupations earn at least 10% more than the statewide average income of $26,834. Special programs and incentives are available to help people become and remain IT professionals.

Find out more about making a living and making a difference in Information Technology in Texas? Linkage

 

[NogginBoink]

Right.

I trust the State of Texas to provide an unbiased commentary on Texas jobs.

(Of course, on the other hand, I'm employed in the IT industry in Texas and am making a decent living...)

 

[CPA]

The problem is not that there are a lack of IT jobs in most states, but a lack of 6 figure jobs now that the bubble burst. It's hard for people to take a step back in pay, even if they were overpaid to begin with.

 

[Ameesh]

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[bozo1]

Originally posted by: CPA
The problem is not that there are a lack of IT jobs in most states, but a lack of 6 figure jobs now that the bubble burst. It's hard for people to take a step back in pay, even if they were overpaid to begin with.

You got that exactly right. I was laid off a while back and have been looking for work. There are jobs out there, not near as many as there were a year or two ago, but they are paying far less. I've come to the realization that I'll have to step back about $20K in pay.

 

[StattlichPassat]

Originally posted by: NogginBoink
Right.

I trust the State of Texas to provide an unbiased commentary on Texas jobs.

(Of course, on the other hand, I'm employed in the IT industry in Texas and am making a decent living...)

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Originally posted by: NightFlyerGTI
Information Technology

Texas will need up to 57,000 new Systems Analysts, Database Administrators, and Computer Support Specialists within the next seven to ten years. According to the U.S. Department of Commerce's Office of Technology Policy, even the slowest growing occupation, computer programmers at 29.5 percent, is expected to grow at more than twice the average for all other occupations in the nation, currently projected at 14.4 percent growth.

With salaries ranging from $30,000 to over $50,000, IT occupations earn at least 10% more than the statewide average income of $26,834. Special programs and incentives are available to help people become and remain IT professionals.

Find out more about making a living and making a difference in Information Technology in Texas? Linkage

You have read the Dallas Morning News and the jillions of laid off IT admins right? About how many have taken jobs at Walmart, some are going back to school, etc. My friend who just graduated last August found absolutely nothing here and moved to Boston after Christmas to find work. I trust that as much as I'd trust HiveMaster for unbiased Republican party information

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: bozo1

Originally posted by: CPA
The problem is not that there are a lack of IT jobs in most states, but a lack of 6 figure jobs now that the bubble burst. It's hard for people to take a step back in pay, even if they were overpaid to begin with.

You got that exactly right. I was laid off a while back and have been looking for work. There are jobs out there, not near as many as there were a year or two ago, but they are paying far less. I've come to the realization that I'll have to step back about $20K in pay.

Just at the beginning of last year my company (a fortune 125 company located in Houston) was paying signing bonuses and sizeable salaries (I should know, I work in Payroll/Benefit Accounting). Now, no more bonuses and salaries have crept down.

 

[flavio]

Yeah sure live in Texas

Do you think we're stupid? Why would anyone subject themselves to that?

 

[StattlichPassat]

Originally posted by: flavio
Yeah sure live in Texas

Do you think we're stupid? Why would anyone subject themselves to that?

What, the 2nd strongest state in Information Technology companies? Oh I don't know.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: flavio
Yeah sure live in Texas

Do you think we're stupid? Why would anyone subject themselves to that?

I used to think that, now I've been here 9 years and with the exception of a few places, wouldn't think of moving out at this time. Work is too good, house prices are still relatively cheap and the heat and humidity really doesn't last all year long

 

[Crab cake]

Go to Austin and see it for yourself. I've seen more abandoned construction projects in this tiny town than I've seen my entire life living in CA.

 

[Red Dawn]

Please, all of those who moved to the Silicon Valley from out of state during the Tech Boom please move to Texas. Go raise their housing costs and crowd their Freeways like you did ours and give us back our State.

You better watch what you wish for Nihtflyer, you just might get it. A place overcrowded with Yuppie Scum driving BMW's is less than desirable. They will make a nice area hell and ruin the quality of life you and those who live there now enjoy just like they did the Bay Area.

 

[RGN]

hmm, I got hired in April and make 45K. No 4-year degree. Not near Texas.

 

[NetworkDad]

Originally posted by: RGN
hmm, I got hired in April and make 45K. No 4-year degree. Not near Texas.

Ditto. It's amazing what a few quick cisco certifications will get you. Texas is too damn hot anyways.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Please, all of those who moved to the Silicon Valley from out of state during the Tech Boom please move to Texas. Go raise their housing costs and crowd their Freeways like you did ours and give us back our State.

You better watch what you wish for Nihtflyer, you just might get it. A place overcrowded with Yuppie Scum driving BMW's is less than desirable. They will make a nice area hell and ruin the quality of life you and those who live there now enjoy just like they did the Bay Area.

Freeways have always been crowded in Houston. Housing prices, while rising, will not escalate at the rate Calis did, because Houston has expansion capabilities beyond most large cities. We do not have zoning laws nor housing construction limitations. All large Texas cities have eminant domain powers that allow them to annex and tax areas within 5 miles of their existing city border. While this is not a win/win for everyone, they are some of the reasons housing prices, at least in Houston, have stayed relatively mild.

 

[Hammer]

Which ones? I see a lot of contruction being completed. The only one I can think of you might be referring to is the Intel building. I don't see who that is Texas' fault, guess what state Intel is hq'ed in?

Originally posted by: Crab cake
Go to Austin and see it for yourself. I've seen more abandoned construction projects in this tiny town than I've seen my entire life living in CA.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Crab cake
Go to Austin and see it for yourself. I've seen more abandoned construction projects in this tiny town than I've seen my entire life living in CA.

Houston, has one skyscraper just completed and another about half way done. Look all around and cranes are a workin'. No slowdown here.

 

[Red Dawn]

guess what state Intel is hq'ed in?

OK, explain to me how Intel being HQ'd in CA is revelent to that building in TX not being completed. It's not that I doubt what you have to say, the reason behind it just alludes me.

 

[Red Dawn]

Freeways have always been crowded in Houston. Housing prices, while rising, will not escalate at the rate Calis did, because Houston has expansion capabilities beyond most large cities

As does San Jose and other cities in the Bay Area. They really had to build a lot of Housing as there wan't any vacany for the longest time. Of course the Bay Area probably has some of the best weather in the world and the senery, when it isn't smoggy, is beautiful.

That said I hope TX is successful in luring a lot of IT workers there and for their sake and your sake, Houston and the rest of the cities can keep up with building new housing to fill the need so the prices don't become atronomical.

 

[roncarter]

Originally posted by: flavio
Yeah sure live in Texas

Do you think we're stupid? Why would anyone subject themselves to that?

hey. wats wrong with TEXAS?

 

[RGN]

Originally posted by: NetworkDad

Originally posted by: RGN
hmm, I got hired in April and make 45K. No 4-year degree. Not near Texas.

Ditto. It's amazing what a few quick cisco certifications will get you. Texas is too damn hot anyways.

I wouldn't mind Texas, I like it hot and they have friendly gun laws.

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Please, all of those who moved to the Silicon Valley from out of state during the Tech Boom please move to Texas. Go raise their housing costs and crowd their Freeways like you did ours and give us back our State.

You better watch what you wish for Nihtflyer, you just might get it. A place overcrowded with Yuppie Scum driving BMW's is less than desirable. They will make a nice area hell and ruin the quality of life you and those who live there now enjoy just like they did the Bay Area.

Freeways have always been crowded in Houston. Housing prices, while rising, will not escalate at the rate Calis did, because Houston has expansion capabilities beyond most large cities. We do not have zoning laws nor housing construction limitations. All large Texas cities have eminant domain powers that allow them to annex and tax areas within 5 miles of their existing city border. While this is not a win/win for everyone, they are some of the reasons housing prices, at least in Houston, have stayed relatively mild.

Red Dawn is absolutely correct.

While growth is good and everybody feels "superficially" happy, the overall quality of life degrades to the point of a suburban hell. Austin suffered badly from the mass immigration of everybody and their brother, sister, friend, foe, whatever during the mid-90s. Now, with the tech bust, Austin has suddenly become a nice place to live again.

The town of Kyle, near Austin is a prime example of what he's talking about. What was once a sleepy town of around 900 people, 5 years ago, is now over 3,000. Kyle exceeded its water quota greatly and is being forced to pay about 5 percent of the yearly budget for a water fine. The numbers are off the top of my head, but the story was in last Monday's Austin American Statesman.

 

[phatcow]

you think thats bad...


here in hawaii, there was a fulltime systems admin position for a local tech company. MCSE requirement, 3-5 years experience, etc.....

I sent in my resume to them, and they called me back the following day. I was way more than qualified. Met all the requirements.
First issue she brought up was pay. Not how much I wanted to negotiate, but what the flat pay for that position is.

Salary 22. no... not per hour.... 22k per year....

i laughed her off the phone....

the sad part is that by them hiring someone for that pay, that means someones willing to work for such low meesly pay. It will eventually devaulue the whole industry where it wont be worth it to be in it.

 

[NogginBoink]

Originally posted by: phatcow

the sad part is that by them hiring someone for that pay, that means someones willing to work for such low meesly pay. It will eventually devaulue the whole industry where it wont be worth it to be in it.

Hey! I think you've discovered a new economic theory here! You oughta call it something like "the law of supply and demand."

Oh. Waitamint.... never mind.