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Bad experience with Yamaha CD-RW

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AluminumStudios

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One of the best way to learn about products is by word of mouth. So I wanted to share my BAD Yamaha experience.

I had a Yamaha CRW8824SZ x8x824 Ultra SCSI CD-RW. When it turned exactly 1 year 1 month it died! I called Yamaha and they couldn't help since it was out of warrenty. I figured I'd bit the bullet and was willing to pay maybe $60-$80 to have it reparied. The rep. told me that it would cost at least $170 for repair!!!! This is blatently to get consumers to buy new drives.

Then they tried to offer me a "customer loyalty rebate" which is a $50 rebate if I buy a new Yamaha and send my dead one in. This was rather insulting because number one if they die so easily I don't want another, and number two, my dead one would likely become a refurbished one that gets shipped back out as a replacement for someone's whos dies under warrenty - hence Yamaha benefits from my misfortune.

Anyway, I just went out and bought an LG GCE-8160B. It has buffer underrun protection, 16x10x40 and is working splendidly! I bought it from Best Buy and spent the extra $30 for a 3 year extended warrenty!

I don't like to give companies a 2nd chance when something dies right at the end of it's warrenty then I'm left in the cold.

~William Milberry
 
yes, yamaha cd-rw is not good, I'm using 8824 ide, the dma must be turn off otherwise coaster, so I can't put a cd-rom/dvd-rom with it in the same ide channel - that'll make the cd-rom/dvd-rom without dma too.
I don't understand why yamaha ide cd-rw must with dma off while all other brands - sanyo engine based are with dma on.
 
wow, I had a Yamaha CRW8824SZ x8x824 Ultra SCSI CD-RW installed in my PC at my previous employer. I'll call and check with the new guy who had my PC to see if it's still working.
 
<<yes, yamaha cd-rw is not good>>

What kind of bull is that? ... Yamaha's 24x CD-RW is the best in its class. If you had bad experience with the 8x, Im sorry, but it doesn't mean anything today since Yamaha totally renovated their CD-RW drives.


<<I don't understand why yamaha ide cd-rw must with dma off while all other brands - sanyo engine based are with dma on.>>

Well, my 24x is doing fine with DMA on, on the same channel as my DVD-ROM. Maybe it was a problem with their 8x, but you're not going to find that same problems on their new burners.
 
How many disc have you burnt with that 8x burner AluminumStudios?? I have a 4416(4x4x16) SCSI that is 3+years old and running great. IMHO Yamaha makes some of the best CD-Recorders on the market. You bought an LG??? I've never had an LG product that lasted very long for me. I bought a 32x LG cd-Rom from Circuit City. In 6 months I returned it 5 times for new ones. Circuit City used to sell PC parts that had been returned at a discount and you would always see LG cd-roms in the pile(8x/10x/12x/16x/24x/32x). They were all crap....

Good luck with your LG, but I would be ready to buy a new one in 6 months if not sooner.....
 
I have a 4x4x16 and 16x10x40 Yamaha, one is 3 years old the other about a year, both work fine with DAM enabled. Depending on how much you burn getting a year out of a drive may be doing well and considering you can pick up CDRW for less than $100 they have become throw away items.
 
My Yamaha 2100S 16x10x40 works great. It's a very nice drive and has given me no problems at all. I also have an ancient 4x Yamaha SCSI CD-R drive that still works perfectly. Every company makes products that fail.

I'm wondering about someone who spends $30 for an extended warranty on a $75 item.
 


<< <<yes, yamaha cd-rw is not good>>

What kind of bull is that? ... Yamaha's 24x CD-RW is the best in its class. If you had bad experience with the 8x, Im sorry, but it doesn't mean anything today since Yamaha totally renovated their CD-RW drives.


<<I don't understand why yamaha ide cd-rw must with dma off while all other brands - sanyo engine based are with dma on.>>

Well, my 24x is doing fine with DMA on, on the same channel as my DVD-ROM. Maybe it was a problem with their 8x, but you're not going to find that same problems on their new burners. >>



Uhm, with all due respect, this has to be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard, as follows:

"If you had bad experience with the 8x, Im sorry, but it doesn't mean anything today since Yamaha totally renovated their CD-RW drives."

What do you mean it means nothing just because they "renovated" their previous product, be it a CDRW, be it Yahama, be it any product or company.. THAT, my friend, doesn't means anything to someone who has paid money for their PREVIOUS product, if anything!

Personally, I use to have a Yamaha 16x16x4x CDRW, it failed within 1 year and 1-2 months and I was furious.. I hadn't even used it a lot, so I know I didn't wear it down or anything.. One day, it just failed to work anymore..

Now, I know things will fail, but ask me if I'll buy another Yamaha CDRW -- the answer is a resounding NO, not only because I experienced this problem, but I've read a lot of people having had the same experience with their PREVIOUS products and THAT should mean A LOT to Yamaha..
 


<< No two piece of electronics are going to last as long for two people. >>



Absolutely, the best way to judge something is based on how often you hear about problems with a certain product.. However, even with that, if you get a product that doesn't function properly or you get poor support, chances are you won't go with that company again no matter how well it works for others..

Personally, my bad Yamaha CDRW experience combined with the "more than the norm" occurence of other people having had the same experience has turned me off Yamaha, no matter how better their current products may or may not be..
 
Never had a Yamaha or LG; only Mitsumi. I have 2 Mitsumi's that have never let me down. You really are better off with a 3rd party warranty. They will ask no questions and exchange for a new item as long as you are under warranty. I hear good and bad stuff all the time about Yamaha. I don't believe their MTBF is very good, though.
 
<<What do you mean it means nothing just because they "renovated" their previous product, be it a CDRW, be it Yahama, be it any product or company.. THAT, my friend, doesn't means anything to someone who has paid money for their PREVIOUS product, if anything!>>

Perefect examples of that statement include AMD in CPUs, VIA and SiS in chipsets, and ATI in graphics. The list goes on, because this happens too often. Companies that use to make unreliable products totally turned themselves around. Are you gonna tell me those bad chipsets VIA and SiS made a few years ago make any difference to our buying decisions today? Do you still consider AMD inferior to Intel even today? What happened to ATI which was known as merely an OEM graphics manufacturer? I can care less about what you think of Yamaha, it's your loss. The fact is, you've only used one Yamaha product, and you claim others have had the same problems without any kind of backup; if that wasn't enough, you're wrong if you think you can make a connection from their current products to your experience with their ancient pruducts.


<<Yamaha 16x16x4x CDRW>>

It doesnt seem like you even know which Yamaha product you owned.
 
I searched forums, etc., and heard nothing but good about LG's newer products. I bought mine for $100 with a $20 rebate (making it $80) and I paid $30 for a 3 year warrenty from Best Buy. So even if it does turn out to not be a quality device, I'm covered.

So far I've burnt about 25 CDs at 16x and haven't had a single problem. I'm very happy with my new LG GCE 8160b.

I'm not saying Yamaha is crap, but I did have an unpleasent experience and will not buy another one again. There are enough companies to choose from so I can afford to not give 2nd chances.

 
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