Bad day driving....

Meractik

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imagine how scary it would be driving along and hearing the ice crack and eventually falling in, man id be so flipping out.
 

NuclearNed

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I would like to have heard the phone conversation that the tractor-trailer driver had with his boss immediately following that incident.
 

SaigonK

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
wow, they have cables on that last one... Do you think they could possibly tow that out of there?!

I think they could, probably use a bucket loader or a dozer....
I know up here in Maine this happens once a yaer that some shmuck decides to drive his truck or car out there and it falls in...

 

Armitage

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I saw a cool documentary on the ice road truckers once - I think it's mostly done on the Great Slave Lake up in the Yukon - I think the pictures linked were also in the documentary.

Some interesting trivia -

- They plow the snow off the ice with smaller trucks because the snow would insulate it and prevent the ice from getting thick enough to drive the big trucks on it.
- There are strict speed limits, particularly when approaching shores, as the weight of the truck causes a leading bulge in the ice (like a bow wave), which can blow out the ice at the shore if its to big.
- There are strict environmental restrictions which require accidents & breakthroughs like the picture to be recovered, rather then left to sink & written off.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: Armitage
I saw a cool documentary on the ice road truckers once - I think it's mostly done on the Great Slave Lake up in the Yukon - I think the pictures linked were also in the documentary.

Some interesting trivia -

- They plow the snow off the ice with smaller trucks because the snow would insulate it and prevent the ice from getting thick enough to drive the big trucks on it.
- There are strict speed limits, particularly when approaching shores, as the weight of the truck causes a leading bulge in the ice (like a bow wave), which can blow out the ice at the shore if its to big.
- There are strict environmental restrictions which require accidents & breakthroughs like the picture to be recovered, rather then left to sink & written off.

Yeah, I seen something on these ice roads of tv. I believe they may have shown them pulling one of these semi's out of the water. Costs alot of money if I remember.
 

Nohr

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I believe they have to use a crane of some sort to pull the big rigs out. Apparently it costs more to lose the rig and it's cargo than it does to salvage it.
 

radioouman

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Originally posted by: Nohr
I believe they have to use a crane of some sort to pull the big rigs out. Apparently it costs more to lose the rig and it's cargo than it does to salvage it.

Is that surprising?
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: radioouman
Originally posted by: Nohr
I believe they have to use a crane of some sort to pull the big rigs out. Apparently it costs more to lose the rig and it's cargo than it does to salvage it.

Is that surprising?

Yea, kind of. Some of the stuff shipped this way isn't terribly valuable in itself, but is simply to big to be moved over this terrain any other way. Combine that with the costs & risks of operating in that environment, and I could see some salvage operations costing more then the truck + cargo is worth.
 

Slacker

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Ha!, funny thing about ice hiways, the pucker factor is exponentially reversed when the ice breaks :eek:
 

SaigonK

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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

http://www.imagetex.com/displayimage.php?album=273&pos=41

prolly has one hell of a 1/4 mile time too, those things get up and move.

MIKE

Big time! I watched a few sleds race against cars, I dont care what you do to your
ricer or muscle car, you still cant beat one of these off the line and to the end of the 1/4 mile...check this out...some right out of the box stock numbers!


2000 Woody's Top Gun Shootout

1/4 mile elapsed time
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Ski-Doo MX Z 800 11.325 sec.
Arctic Cat ZR 800 11.569 sec.
Polaris XC 800 11.816 sec.

And another one

1/4 Mile ET: 10.920
1/4 Mile MPH: 117.680
1/8 Mile ET: 0.000
1/8 Mile MPH: 0.000
0-60 Foot ET: 0.000
Temperature F: 0.0
Car Make: Arctic Cat
Car Model: Snowmobile
Car Type: 900cc dragster
Car Year: 1996
Driver: Colin Moore


At 90 miles per hour, a snowmobile moves at 131 feet per second

Thats scary! I never thought my 700cc snowmbile was that fast...sweet! ;D
 

SaigonK

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Originally posted by: Nohr
I believe they have to use a crane of some sort to pull the big rigs out. Apparently it costs more to lose the rig and it's cargo than it does to salvage it.

I imagine it costs a ton of $$ to get it out...but you cant leave it in there of course...
I saw that special on NG, it was awesome how they make ice roads like this!
 

cavemanmoron

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http://www.rotella.com/iceroads/index.html


Shell ROTELLA Takes On Canada's Ice Roads

50-ton payloads. 430-hp engines. Four feet of gently shifting ice. Welcome to Canada?s ice roads, 800 miles of frozen ribbons carved across the lakes and tundra of the rugged Northwest Territories, and the latest testing ground for Shell ROTELLA® T.

At 10 mph, your engine strains. At 15 mph, it sinks.

There?s no room for the unprepared here. Not in the face of howling winds and temperatures that warm to minus 40º. The urge is to get off the ice as quickly as possible. The reality is, anything over a crawl can send a rig crashing through the surface and to the bottom of some of the deepest lakes in the world.

For the two months a year that they exist, these brittle roads are lifelines connecting remote Arctic villages with civilization. They begin where the pavement ends in Hay River and head north to where the world ends in towns only the locals can pronounce. The trucks that drive them bring thousands of times the amount of fuel and supplies that seaplanes and dog sleds could ever carry. And it?s only a matter of time before the roads and the ice melt away for another year.