Bad choice to get 64 bit Vista Ultimate.

[balane]

Geeze, where to start. A lot of my software won't run, well not a lot but many things I like. Star Wars Galaxies, 3DMark06, no overclocking software for my 8800GTS card, a bunch of drivers may or may not be installed, I can't really tell for sure since many of them failed at the end of the install even though Vista shows no conflicts in Device Manager.

My printer doesn't work worth beans, lots of errors but sometimes I can get a page or two out of it. HP Laser Jet 1012.

I might as well give up on my Canon Canoscan scanner. I've been pretty much informed by them to write that model off. N1240U I think is the part number.

Networking is a complicated and dicey task with my XP laptops.

I have no idea how to make the sidebar function properly. Even when I right click on the control icon in the notification area it always says Open Sidebar, regardless if it's opened or closed. But, hey, I always know the date at a split second glance on the always colored orange calendar.

But I'll be damned if my window borders aren't translucent and that's pretty nifty even though it doesn't quite take the sting out of losing all of my peripherals.

The mouse wheel no longer scrolls the page on the window I'm hovering over like it used to, I know have to click the window or frame first and make that section active.

Why, oh why did I pop for the 64 bit OEM version of Vista Ultimate.

Oh yeah, no java or flash plugins available for the browser, that sort of stinks.

I thought beta tests were supposed to be free.

One nice silver lining, though, is that I can still play Oblivion and even at the stock clock speed on my card the frame rate is pretty decent.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Welcome to the world of 64bit computing, brought to you by Intel.

 

[Rage187]

can you install the 32bit version of Ultimate and later have it change to the 64 bit?

 

[Nothinman]

My printer doesn't work worth beans, lots of errors but sometimes I can get a page or two out of it. HP Laser Jet 1012.

I find it hard to believe that there's not generic PCL or PS drivers for a LaserJet printer.

Welcome to the world of 64bit computing, brought to you by Intel.

Actually brought to you by AMD.

can you install the 32bit version of Ultimate and later have it change to the 64 bit?

No, you'll have to reinstall in order to migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit or vice versa.

Networking is a complicated and dicey task with my XP laptops.

I have no idea how to make the sidebar function properly. Even when I right click on the control icon in the notification area it always says Open Sidebar, regardless if it's opened or closed. But, hey, I always know the date at a split second glance on the always colored orange calendar.

Those should have nothing to do with the 64-bit-ness of the OS.

Oh yeah, no java or flash plugins available for the browser, that sort of stinks.

I consider those pros, not cons.

I thought beta tests were supposed to be free.

Tell that to Canon and HP since they're the ones screwing you, not MS.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

It helps to wade in the kiddy pool before jumping into the deep end without arm floaties.

 

[Nothinman]

It helps to wade in the kiddy pool before jumping into the deep end without arm floaties.

I thought Windows was the kiddy pool...

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: balane
Geeze, where to start. A lot of my software won't run, well not a lot but many things I like. Star Wars Galaxies, 3DMark06, no overclocking software for my 8800GTS card, a bunch of drivers may or may not be installed, I can't really tell for sure since many of them failed at the end of the install even though Vista shows no conflicts in Device Manager.

My printer doesn't work worth beans, lots of errors but sometimes I can get a page or two out of it. HP Laser Jet 1012.

I might as well give up on my Canon Canoscan scanner. I've been pretty much informed by them to write that model off. N1240U I think is the part number.

Networking is a complicated and dicey task with my XP laptops.

I have no idea how to make the sidebar function properly. Even when I right click on the control icon in the notification area it always says Open Sidebar, regardless if it's opened or closed. But, hey, I always know the date at a split second glance on the always colored orange calendar.

But I'll be damned if my window borders aren't translucent and that's pretty nifty even though it doesn't quite take the sting out of losing all of my peripherals.

The mouse wheel no longer scrolls the page on the window I'm hovering over like it used to, I know have to click the window or frame first and make that section active.

Why, oh why did I pop for the 64 bit OEM version of Vista Ultimate.

Oh yeah, no java or flash plugins available for the browser, that sort of stinks.

I thought beta tests were supposed to be free.

One nice silver lining, though, is that I can still play Oblivion and even at the stock clock speed on my card the frame rate is pretty decent.

I'm also using x64 version,no problems to report.

Canon printer works great.

Sidebar settings are in properties,right click on it.



Mouse wheel scrolling works fine for me with my Razor Diamondback.


Java ,flash plug-ins work with Firefox 2 on my Vista x64,not surprising considering Firefox is a 32 bit browser.

FYI lot of happy Vista x64 users .

 

[Nothinman]

Java ,flash plug-ins work with Firefox 2 on my Vista x64,not surprising considering Firefox is a 32 bit browser.

Just to be pedantic, there are 64-bit builds of FF.

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Java ,flash plug-ins work with Firefox 2 on my Vista x64,not surprising considering Firefox is a 32 bit browser.

Just to be pedantic, there are 64-bit builds of FF.

I know,but no sure if my Firefox extensions will work and you don't really need 64 bit for browsing,however I might try it later to see if my extensions work.

 

[fyleow]

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[Mem]

Originally posted by: fyleow
Call up Nvidia and complain, your 8800 box does have a "Windows Vista ready" sticker on it right?

I'm not having issues with Firefox extensions, java or flash. Make sure to run Firefox in administrator mode for some plugin installation though or download the separate installer.

You could get your printer and scanner working by using a virtual machine until the drivers get sorted out.

Problem with Java and flash is the 64 bit versions are not available at this time,don't believe me try Firefox 3.0a1(64 bit version),32 bit version of Firefox with java/flash has no problems in VISTA x64

 

[Joemonkey]

Originally posted by: balane
The mouse wheel no longer scrolls the page on the window I'm hovering over like it used to, I know have to click the window or frame first and make that section active.

Since when has this worked? I'm running 32bit XP Pro and I've never had this work.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Welcome to the world of 64bit computing, brought to you by Intel.

What exactly does Intel have to do with Vista? We're not running Vista on IA64 systems.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

It helps to wade in the kiddy pool before jumping into the deep end without arm floaties.

I thought Windows was the kiddy pool...

Kiddy Pool: Ultimate Edition.


I think that's more like what a Mac is. It's easy to use and intuitive, and there's really no easy ways of hurting yourself.

Windows is feature rich. It's a 3 foot kiddy pool. With a diving board.


I intend to stick with WinXP Pro as long as I can. It works, it runs my software and my hardware, and it's stable.
My roommate tried Vista, after a few months, was disgusted with it; he now has a Macbook Pro. He seems to be quite thrilled with it. He doesn't miss his games either - he's a console gamer.

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Welcome to the world of 64bit computing, brought to you by Intel.

What exactly does Intel have to do with Vista? We're not running Vista on IA64 systems.

because INTEL's first 64bit processors sucked and had little following, drivers never had to mature. Even when AMD's 64bit solution came out most hardware vendors will still sucking the INTEL teet.

 

[crazedmodder]

Not to mention Intel's Core processor is 32 bit, if MS had (or could have) made Vista 64 bit only there would be many more drivers available.

Anyways that stings, why don't you re-install XP and wait a couple months for everything to pan out? I mean you have the OEM so unless you're willing to spend more money to get the 32 bit version then your best bet would be wait, or dual boot.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Welcome to the world of 64bit computing, brought to you by Intel.

What exactly does Intel have to do with Vista? We're not running Vista on IA64 systems.

because INTEL's first 64bit processors sucked and had little following, drivers never had to mature. Even when AMD's 64bit solution came out most hardware vendors will still sucking the INTEL teet.

That makes no sense except to fanboys. I don't want to accuse you of being a fanboy, but how else is someone supposed to interpret your comment? Intel's had x86-64 processors on the market for a few years now.

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Welcome to the world of 64bit computing, brought to you by Intel.

What exactly does Intel have to do with Vista? We're not running Vista on IA64 systems.

because INTEL's first 64bit processors sucked and had little following, drivers never had to mature. Even when AMD's 64bit solution came out most hardware vendors will still sucking the INTEL teet.

That makes no sense except to fanboys. I don't want to accuse you of being a fanboy, but how else is someone supposed to interpret your comment? Intel's had x86-64 processors on the market for a few years now.

Go back further.

We are talking Itanium's not Conroe's. Itanium was INTEL's initial venture into the 64bit market and it stunk. At that time xp 64 was also in development but since Itanium sucked and AMD had such a small user base(pre2003) development of drivers never had to mature.

 

[Nothinman]

Go back further.

We are talking Itanium's not Conroe's. Itanium was INTEL's initial venture into the 64bit market and it stunk. At that time xp 64 was also in development but since Itanium sucked and AMD had such a small user base(pre2003) development of drivers never had to mature.

How about going back even further and blaming the problems on DEC and SGI, they had 64-bit systems long before Intel released IA64. And Windows even ran on the Alpha until MS and HP decide to kill it. So if DEC had employed some decent marketers and MS kept Windows running on Alpha all of your 64-bit issues would have been taken care of before Intel even decide to work on IA64.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Welcome to the world of 64bit computing, brought to you by Intel.

What exactly does Intel have to do with Vista? We're not running Vista on IA64 systems.

Intel dismissed x86-64 for a long time, if they had adopted x86-64 at the same time as AMD, 64bit would have far more support now, not an AMD fanboy, I use Intel CPUs in my notebooks and Conroe (or its successor) is on my upgrade roadmap.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

The sad part ... your problems probably have little to do with anything 64 bit.