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Jschmuck2

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So if you were me and the last character you played was a level 70 Priest about a year ago...what class would you play this time?
 

Aikouka

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Nothing wrong with a 70 shadow priest :). Personally, I've always enjoyed rogues, regardless of spec.
 

CKent

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Depends what you want to do. Group PvP, resto druid or arms warrior. Batltegrounds, rogue or hunter. PvE, druid for tanking, druid or shaman for healing, warlock for dps.
 

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Just saw an ad for WoW on [adult swim] Fix. Amazed that it's being advertised.

ehh they have adds on during sunday NFL football as wel las college football and then there are the William shatner and Mr T ones
 

Lamont Burns

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If you want to DPS, I would go MS War. I have one just in mixed S1-2-3 gear with just a T1 BS Weapon atm and it's funny how powerful he is, even without a healer...

If you want to heal, I would use the priest again, as I think resto druids should you reroll to 70 will be toned down a bit by then.

Err, I guess you might be a PvEer... in that case Destro Lock! So fun as a class, but not so hawt in da PvP.

Overall tho I say go with Lupi on this one.
 

Xavier434

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I am a big fan of the resto druid. With the free spell damage these days, they rock in both PvE and PvP. Being a druid also gives you the opportunity to respec to feral if you want more melee dps and tank action.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: LAMONTBURNS
Err, I guess you might be a PvEer... in that case Destro Lock! So fun as a class, but not so hawt in da PvP.

Drakedog does pretty well as a destro lock :p.

EDIT: Of course he doesn't use the typical PVE 0/21/40 build.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
So if you were me and the last character you played was a level 70 Priest about a year ago...what class would you play this time?

Why put yourself through that grief?

Surely there are other things to better occupy your time.

 

Lamont Burns

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Drakedog's movies are indeed very fun to watch. Nothing is absolute in saying X class is not good for Y... just throwing out generalities for the non-Drakedogs out there.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: LAMONTBURNS
If you want to DPS, I would go MS War. I have one just in mixed S1-2-3 gear with just a T1 BS Weapon atm and it's funny how powerful he is, even without a healer...

If you want to heal, I would use the priest again, as I think resto druids should you reroll to 70 will be toned down a bit by then.


Err, I guess you might be a PvEer... in that case Destro Lock! So fun as a class, but not so hawt in da PvP.

Overall tho I say go with Lupi on this one.

I doubt it. Blizz keeps reinforcing how much they believe resto druids are balanced right now and they don't want to change them. On top of that, they have done nothing but buff resto druids during patches for 2 years and counting now. The closest they will come to a nerf is the upcoming change to Lifebloom which will stop people from doing the healing trinket exploit which I don't really consider a nerf. That's just fixing something which wasn't intentional in the first place.



To the OP, let me briefly describe the difference healing as a resto druid vs a priest.

Healing is just different as a priest vs a resto druid. One is not "better" than the other in terms of capabilities in a PvE environment. Priests are kind of a step below a pally in terms of single target healing effectiveness. They are much better burst damage healers than resto druids and shamans. However, resto druids are considered to be the best healers in terms of healing many targets at once. Manipulating the strengths of HoT spells allows them to contribute tremendously to healing the tanks while maintaining a 25 man raid in terms of the damage they take. Shamans are good at this too but they just don't do it using HoT spells. The healing weakness of the resto druid is when the damage requires fast burst healing and you do not have pallys and priests to back you up. You can counter this weakness by using Healing Touch more but that means not being in tree form which will result in using mana much faster. Still, at least the option is there which is the beauty of the druid being a great hybrid class.

Just to give an example, my resto druid's triple Lifebloom stack without trinket does 700 healing per tick (one tick per second) alone and he is not even completely finished with the loots available from TK and SSC yet.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
So if you were me and the last character you played was a level 70 Priest about a year ago...what class would you play this time?

Why put yourself through that grief?

Surely there are other things to better occupy your time.

Fun is fun and hobbies and hobbies no matter how you do it.
 

Lamont Burns

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Right, but the next paragraph past what you bolded kind of signifies that everything up to that point was in regards to PvP only. Additionally, the toning down I am referring to has nothing to do with healing efficiency. That is not what makes them so desireable in PvP.

Raiding is not my bag. Could not care less.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: LAMONTBURNS
Drakedog's movies are indeed very fun to watch. Nothing is absolute in saying X class is not good for Y... just throwing out generalities for the non-Drakedogs out there.

Yeah... I always giggle during 7 when he kills that warrior with 3 spells :p. There's also nothin' wrong with learning how to be "a drakedog" too. I find playing with a succubus to be quite fun on my lock even though I'm affliction (which makes it kind of worthless, but I'm too lazy to waste a soul shard :p). Specs are always a bit weird for me because I play two characters at once so difficulties are nullified.

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
The closest they will come to a nerf is the upcoming change to Lifebloom which will stop people from doing the healing trinket exploit which I don't really consider a nerf. That's just fixing something which wasn't intentional in the first place.

This reminds me of back in the day when they were fixing the Rogue's Seal Fate talent as it was giving too many combo points on crit. Rogues were complaining left and right, "we're being nerfed!!" No, you imbeciles, we're being fixed... just so happens the broken-ness wasn't bad :p.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: LAMONTBURNS
Right, but the next paragraph past what you bolded kind of signifies that everything up to that point was in regards to PvP only. Additionally, the toning down I am referring to has nothing to do with healing efficiency. That is not what makes them so desireable in PvP.

Raiding is not my bag. Could not care less.

Fair enough. I'm the opposite. PvP doesn't do it for me although I am constantly told that resto druids are amazing now in PvP thanks to the free spell damage and instant cast heals. That plus I am begged all the time to join Arena teams. I am told that a War + resto druid is quite the deadly 2vs2 team.
 

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It's not that resto druids are balanced, it's that Blizzard only cares about 5vs5 arena for balance. Resto druids don't fare very well in that bracket so Blizzard doesn't care about how overpowered they are for 2vs2.

(has a 70 resto shaman and a 70 affliction warlock)
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: dgevert
It's not that resto druids are balanced, it's that Blizzard only cares about 5vs5 arena for balance. Resto druids don't fare very well in that bracket so Blizzard doesn't care about how overpowered they are for 2vs2.

(has a 70 resto shaman and a 70 affliction warlock)

I should have been more specific. They are very well balanced for PvE. In terms of the Arena, they are overpowered but there are many things about the Arena which are broken. Plus, I am sure Blizz cares about 2vs2 balance since that is by far the most popular. At least, that is what they are telling us.

In any case, I will say what I always say about PvP and WoW. WoW has always been and will always be a PvE game with PvP slapped on top of it. Never expect PvP to be completely balanced. Even the most powerful developers at Blizz are in charge of mostly with PvE content. If I were a PvP kind of guy, I would give it up and find another game that is PvP with PvE slapped on top instead.
 

skace

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
In any case, I will say what I always say about PvP and WoW. WoW has always been and will always be a PvE game with PvP slapped on top of it. Never expect PvP to be completely balanced. Even the most powerful developers at Blizz are in charge of mostly with PvE content. If I were a PvP kind of guy, I would give it up and find another game that is PvP with PvE slapped on top instead.

Goodluck ever expecting an MMO game of any kind to be perfectly balanced for every class combo in every #. IE, 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, 5v5, 6v6, 7v7, RvR, etc. That is just an epic amount of balancing and Blizzard has done a really good job even if their game was geared PvE. Most of the good PvP MMOs never gave a shit about class balance: Shadowbane and UO. You either picked a strong build or you died and were considered a newbie. Blizzard actually has the patience to try and make everyone's choices lead them to a decent character.