Back to the Future question???

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Chadder007

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Um, has anyone in real life traveled through time? Can you prove what you're saying is right? It's a fvcking movie, get a life
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Duhh.... John Titor. :D
 

VIAN

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Well, you have to understand that first, it's a movie and people do mess up sometimes. Second, these are all theories to time travel. Personally, I like the theory of the Terminator better. How John Conner sent a guy back to the past to become his father. In BTTF that would be known as a paradox. But if time existed in a moment, and that moment represented all moments in time and in all alternate realities, then everything that you are gonna do has been done already and everything that you did, you are living by.

Here is a weird example. I go back in time to 1945 to rob gold from a couple of banks. I come back and nothing changed. Why? Because I was supposed to go there. Meaning that I had existed in 1945 just to rob a bank. This theory might be kind of hard to believe for those of you who are scared that they are not in control of their own destiny. But it's only a theory joined together with all the others other theories.

What will really screw with your mind is at the end of BTTF3 when Doc says that the future is unwritten. BTTF2 shouldnt have happened then...
Definitely, LOL.

LOVE THE TRILOGOGY, have the DVD box set.

BTTF used the Theory D in the link. Also, different theories suggest on how long the trip takes and where you will land. BTTF you leave one spot in one time and appear in another time in the same spot. Well, how do you know that at that time in the past, the earth was still at that point in rotation or otherwise. Very interesting questions. Very unsolvable until we build a time machine. Oh well.
 

MartyMcFly3

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Originally posted by: FFactory0x
Flea is needles. I always was like ive seen that guy somewhere. Thats awesome

Yeah. Anthony Kiedis has been in stuff too. Both of them were in "The Chase" with Charlie Sheen and Kristy Swanson.
 

Titan

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that's not quite true, actually.

Technically, marty mcfly never sees himself as an old man in the future. remember the doc's warning about the paradox that will unravel the space-time contiunuum?

In short, the more you think about time travel, the less it makes sense, it is paradoxical. I, personally like to think that the future affects the past like the end of ST:TNG, or like in beast wars when they think they are saving their ancestors from destruction so they can exist in the future, and they are in fact creating their own history after going back in time.
 

Bassyhead

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Originally posted by: AvesPKS
He travelled into the future, and then back to the present time, meaning he continued his existence from the point where he left.

Makes sense to me
 

VIAN

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This is where the theory I like comes into play. The future hasn't happened yet in that theory, so how can you go into the future. You can't, but my theory, you can, cause it is happening. And if the present were at 1985, it is only present to you, the people in 1955 perceive that as the present, so how could there be a future to that, that hasn't happened. Understand. Same thing with our present. I don't think it goes from here to there, I think time is 1.
 

dfi

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Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Originally posted by: dfi
After a bit of quick thinking, it seems to all work out ok. As long as you assume that nothing in time can be ever changed, aka it was all destined to happen.

Because, if I remember BttF3 correctly, Fox would've never existed unless he had gone back in time and saved his grandfather. Which couldn't have happened unless time travel was inevitable. I could be remembering the movie wrong, it's been a long time.

Then this also means that the change in Fox's family in BttF2, when Biffs becomes their lackey, is a destined discontinuity in Fox's timeline. Weird.

Doc must've been lying, or simply wrong, about the future being unwritten. Otherwise anytime you traveled in time, that timeline moves forward without you in it, and thus you would never see your own future. And thus the movie wouldn't work. We can't have that now, can we?

dfi

Which is why i said BTTF2 wouldnt happen. Because in BTTF3 the "You're Fired!" erased after Marty decided not to race Flea from the chili peppers, err Needles :p and when jennifer asked why this happened doc said because "your future is what you make of it" meaning its unwritten. Man what a mindfvck! :D

Doc's a liar! He just said that to give Marty hope. It was always destined for him to see that piece of paper and to undo it. Time is not smooth; it's totally chopped up.

See, now the movie works again. And all we had to do was make wild assumptions about the movie universe's working of time and Doc's motives for (my assumption of Doc) lying to Marty. Perfect!

dfi

 

ndee

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I know what you mean dude. He enters the car in 1985 and travels to 2005. So... he walked to the car... entered the car... and boom, he's away. He should cease to exist IMO too.
 

Chaotic42

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Adding that second temporal dimension messes things up, doesn't it?

He travels to the future, then returns back to 1985. The him he sees in the future is the him that returned back to 1985, and also the one that saw himself in the future.