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Back in the game...need some component compatibility advice!

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LandDweller

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I have been doing a lot of research, and this is my first pc build in years (last was featuring an amd phenom 9500!). Finding myself slightly lost in the wave of recent technology -- so I need some opinions on the components as well as IF THEY GO TOGETHER CORRECTLY lol......

Here is my build for $700 (Trying to achieve a high bench of ~4500 hopefully in ffxiv). I will be doing very minimal overclocking -- maybe 2-300 mhz

The Build:

VIDEO EVGA GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 169.99
CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz AM3 Six-Core 199.99
COOLER COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus 29.99
MOBO ASUS M4A79XTD EVO 108.99 (Additional $20 Mail-In Rebate Through 9/30)
PSU RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W 49.99 (Additional $10 Mail-In Rebate Through 9/30)
RAM G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 84.99
CASE Antec Three Hundred 59.95
HDD Recycled (Seagate 7200 RPM) 00.00
DVD Recycled 00.00


Total: $703.88 (http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=11583114)

Thanks guys!
 
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You don't need 650W PSU, ~400-450W should be plenty with your specs. Get this combo instead and save yourself some $50. Same Antec 300 case, with 430W PSU. Heck, after rebate it's cheaper than the case by itself, the PSU is -$2:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129065


I'd also go with 880G chipset since you're only dealing with one video card, and the Sata 6Gbps and USB 3.0 will be more useful to you than the features on the 790.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128445
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131654
 
I would probably not bother with the X6 for gaming (assuming that this is a gaming build because of the GTX 460).

Grab this 955BE + M4A87TD/USB3 combo for $222 instead. With the money you saved, either get the GTX 460 1GB or the GTX 470. The GTX 470 will increase your total cost by a bit, but it is very fast. $250 for a GTX 470 is ridiculous deal IMHO.
 
guys, you have given me so much to think about! i am piecing together a revised build as we speak and will post it up.

so happy i came back to AT.
 
mfenn said:
I would probably not bother with the X6 for gaming (assuming that this is a gaming build because of the GTX 460).

Grab this 955BE + M4A87TD/USB3 combo for $222 instead. With the money you saved, either get the GTX 460 1GB or the GTX 470. The GTX 470 will increase your total cost by a bit, but it is very fast. $250 for a GTX 470 is ridiculous deal IMHO.
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I was questioning the hex-core myself, but I have no idea how well threaded FFxiv is? Or what else he might be doing with the computer? Without a doubt, the combo above is a great bang-for-buck proposition; however, as far as the motherboard goes, the one listed above does not have on-board graphics. I kinda like having an on-board chip "just in case", but judge for yourself if this is necessary or not.

One final note on video cards, the next gen ATI 67xx and/or 68xx is widely believed to be released mid-late October and I would very much expect it to overtake the current mid-range king (460 GTX). At the very least, you should see a decent price drop across the board in the $150-250 GPU market within 4-8 weeks if you can hang on for that long.
 
jaydee said:
You don't need 650W PSU, ~400-450W should be plenty with your specs. Get this combo instead and save yourself some $50. Same Antec 300 case, with 430W PSU. Heck, after rebate it's cheaper than the case by itself, the PSU is -$2:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129065
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The 400-450W PSUs usually don't have two PCIe 6-pin connectors that the GTX 460 will need. Though adapters can be used, I'd rather play it safe and use a PSU that comes with the required connectors. Also, the BP430 combo'd with the case is not nearly as good as other Antec PSUs. Efficiency maxes out at 78% and it only has 30A on combined +12v rails which is more typical of 400W PSUs, not 430W.
 
Hey guys! Thanks so much for the help! Since i can score a i7-930 at MicroCenter for $200 -- I am basing my system around that. it will primarily be used for gaming (ffxiv) and video and audio editing:

Code: 
CASE    Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 
CPU    Intel Core i7-930
GPU    GIGABYTE GV-N470D5-13I-B GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card 
PSU    CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI
RAM    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
MOBO  ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
 
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LandDweller said:
Hey guys! Thanks so much for the help! Since i can score a i7-930 at MicroCenter for $200 -- I am basing my system around that. it will primarily be used for gaming (ffxiv) and video and audio editing:

Code: 
CASE    Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 
CPU    Intel Core i7-930
GPU    GIGABYTE GV-N470D5-13I-B GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card 
PSU    CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI
RAM    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
MOBO  ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
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The 930 is not worth it when you can get a 750 for $150 or a 760 for $170 at MC. LGA 1156 mobos are also much cheaper.
 
Zap said:
The 400-450W PSUs usually don't have two PCIe 6-pin connectors that the GTX 460 will need. Though adapters can be used, I'd rather play it safe and use a PSU that comes with the required connectors. Also, the BP430 combo'd with the case is not nearly as good as other Antec PSUs. Efficiency maxes out at 78% and it only has 30A on combined +12v rails which is more typical of 400W PSUs, not 430W.
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The load power consumption for either GTX 460 was tested at less than 300W in Anandtech's test (w/i7-920 oc'd to 3.33Ghz). 78% efficient vs. 82% efficient, meh. It's not the best PSU in it's class, but it would definitely do the job IMO.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-the-200-king/17

This is moot though, if he's now looking at 470 GTX's though. Have to bump up to a 500+ watt unit, and that 650W is still more than he needs, but a great pick for the money right now.


OP, if you're going Intel now, like mfenn said stick with 1156. Even an i7-870 is a better deal (usually) than i7-930 considering mobo costs.
 
mfenn said:
The 930 is not worth it when you can get a 750 for $150 or a 760 for $170 at MC. LGA 1156 mobos are also much cheaper.
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is there really that little of a difference in power between the i7-930 and the 75/60? i am a bit behind in currently technology, so there could be..
 
All 9xx procs use a max of 130W, doesn't matter if it's the 920 or the 980X. They will idle using different power however.
 
i think i made my final decision..what it comes down to now is ...is there any compatibility issues here?...i really think i got a great machine for the price!


Code: 
case	Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case	59.95
gpu	GIGABYTE GV-N470D5-13I-B GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi)		294.99 - $25 Coupon Code VGAGIG47038 (ends 9/26) - $20 Mail In Rebate (ends 9/26)
psu	CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready		89.99 - 10% Coupon Code sept10 (limited offer) - $30 Mail In Rebate (ends 9/27)
ram	G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600		84.99
mobo	ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366					159.99 - 10% Coupon Code MBTEN923 (limited offer)
cpu	i7-930								199.99		
dvd	owned								0
hdd	owned								0

grand total = 839.90 after rebates
 
LandDweller said:
thats what i got in my list 😀 😀 😀 great deal indeed

any comments on the component compatibility? i dont trust myself 100% yet and i need to pull the trigger by tomorrow to get the sale prices
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What you have will work together, although I'm not sure why you want the 930. The 760 has higher turbo modes and thus will be faster at most tasks. Maybe I'm just old school, but faster and cheaper seems good to me.
 
mfenn said:
What you have will work together, although I'm not sure why you want the 930. The 760 has higher turbo modes and thus will be faster at most tasks. Maybe I'm just old school, but faster and cheaper seems good to me.
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I am using this computer for a lot of non-gaming tasks. I beleive 930 has HT and the 760 does not...so I might take a hit in apps like adobe after effects
 
LandDweller said:
I am using this computer for a lot of non-gaming tasks. I beleive 930 has HT and the 760 does not...so I might take a hit in apps like adobe after effects
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You are correct that the 930 has HT and the 760 does not. If you feel that you need HT, I would get the 870 for $230 from MC. It's got a faster base clock than the 930, turbos higher, and is still cheaper when you consider the total platform cost.
 
mfenn said:
You are correct that the 930 has HT and the 760 does not. If you feel that you need HT, I would get the 870 for $230 from MC. It's got a faster base clock than the 930, turbos higher, and is still cheaper when you consider the total platform cost.
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Actually a great compromise -- what 1156 motherboard do you reccomend?
 
LandDweller said:
I am using this computer for a lot of non-gaming tasks. I beleive 930 has HT and the 760 does not...so I might take a hit in apps like adobe after effects
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The i7 860 beats the 930 by a bit in encoding and rendering video, so you would actually take a hit getting the 930, unless you plan on using 4 way SLI or the full 24GB RAM you're taking a hit with the 9xx over the 8xx chip.

The only real reason to get a 930 is if you're into scientific calculation/ 3D Rendering with raytracing, otherwise go for the 8xx.

Reasons to get 9xx

CAD/3DS Max

Simulation

Reasons to get the 8xx

Gaming

Encoding

2D Rendering

More Plentiful, Cheaper RAM

I'm guessing (and this is only a guess so...) that the only apps that are programmed to utilize the 9xx Hyperthreading are 3D app render engines because of how demanding and time consuming 3D Rendering is.
 
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