Back in Stock, CAT5e Kits @ ComputerGeeks

Jugernot

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Originally posted by: Shark_II
OT: What's with the "e" in Cat5e? 2nd time I've seen it today.....:confused:

Yes, it means enhanced. Basically it means you can run 1000Mbit on it.
 

Shark

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Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: Shark_II
OT: What's with the "e" in Cat5e? 2nd time I've seen it today.....:confused:

Yes, it means enhanced. Basically it means you can run 1000Mbit on it.

Gigabit ethernet... ok cool. Didn't know it took different cable though.. oh well.

thanks for the info.
 

Shrooms420

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thats a good deal!!! i picked one up last time and still have about 200ft left. saved my friends and i a lot of money!!! thanks!!
 

Shrooms420

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oh dont forget to use the 10% coupon and there is also a creative Multimedia Remote w/$50+ Order. i dont know if you can use both coupons. also hurry and buy this if you are going to because it's not considered a geek special yet( after so long, they put this deal as a geek special).
 

2canSAM

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Just FYI

Cat5e can run @ 350mhz, not 1000mhz for Gigabit
Cat6 runs @ 1000mhz for Gigabit

Still a very HOT deal though

 

dealseaker

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just bought 63.10 total, i dont think u can use both coupon codes 19 dollars to ship oh well i posted that i wanted the cat5 cable in the fst board but no replys i guess i got alot of it now bump for a great deal
 

fastman

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On the Specs for the tester it says "Some of the labels on this tester are in Chinese" any important ones?
 

Salvador

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Great deal. I thought my local Home Depot had a great deal for just the CAT5 cable for about $60 for 1000 ft.

Sal
 

rzrshrp

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The tester is mostly english and yes all the important labels are english....actually there's so little chinese I didn't really notice it until you asked :)
 

cmbehan

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Originally posted by: 2canSAM
Just FYI

Cat5e can run @ 350mhz, not 1000mhz for Gigabit
Cat6 runs @ 1000mhz for Gigabit

Still a very HOT deal though


Not true. You can run Gigabit ethernet over standard Cat5 and Cat5e. SOURCE



And the only difference between Cat5, Cat5e and Cat6 are the number of twists per foot and the amount of shielding.
 

winter

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Originally posted by: 2canSAM
Just FYI

Cat5e can run @ 350mhz, not 1000mhz for Gigabit
Cat6 runs @ 1000mhz for Gigabit

Still a very HOT deal though
AFAIK
Cat5 and Cat5e are both 100mhz
Cat6 (which is not a ratified standard) is spec'd to 250mhz
There are people offering enhanced version of Cat 5e tested to 350mhz but thats not the std
All switches I know of will run gigabit ethernet over regular cat5e just fine.
YMMV

 

trikster2

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I was gonna jump on this deal a few months ago but someone pointed out that this is solid core cable designed for punch down blocks and not stranded cable designed for patch cords.

While you can make patch cords out of solid cable, it is harder and the cables will not be as reliable.

Now. I'm no expert by any means. Was that guy all wet or is this stuff the cats meow for making a bunch of 6 to 100 foot patch cables????
 

Yo2

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Overall a great deal - not for any one of the parts but for the sum of all:

- The 100 caps go for $10 (computer show) to $50 (yes - home depot) alone.
- The cable is worth about $40 it is in-wall cable though - not quite as flexible as patch cord. Not really suitable if the cable is frequently unplugged.
- the tester is a very basic polarity tester only. It is good enough for conductivity tests though.
- The crimping tool is very cheap (crappy).

All in all an excellent deal for the beginner or for a larger project.

Yo
 

wintermute908

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I still have about 600ft left of a spool I bought a few months back (different deal), but someone might want to call CompGeeks to see whether this is solid core or stranded cables. Each has its advantages depending on what type of installation you will be doing. Back when I bought my spool I checked into the solid vs. stranded issue and essentially this is what I found:

Stranded:
- More flexible
- More tolerant to constant bending/flexing
- More susceptible to interference

Solid:
- Less flexible
- Can break wires internally if flexed too often
- Better for permanent installation (i.e. inside the wall)
- Higher tolerance to interference caused by nearby electric wiring (esp. the Plenum style cables)

This is not to say that you can't use solid cables as patch cables, but that if you are going to be re-connecting or moving the cables on any regular basis, stranded cable is the better choice. With solid-core Cat5e cables, just like any other type of solid wire, enough bending back & forth will eventually break the wires. Given that the average person isn't going to be installing this cable inside the walls of their house or near high voltage lines, interference isn't much of a concern. Just some things you may want to think about before making a purchase. Either way, its still a great price for the kit...

BTW, I have part of my network running at GigE speeds using the 350MHz Cat5e cable I have. I haven't had any problems...
 

Mallow

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Hello Anandtechers-

I need some advice. So I hear this kit comes with "solid core" cables, what exactly does that mean? All cables are made of "solid metal" eh? What is the exact difference between solid and stranded core cables?

I basically want to use this to connect mine and my friends computers on LANs. The cables won't be moved a bunch but they will need to bend around corners and go under carpet. I may even want to make cable and sell them to people @ a certain length. What kind of usage will a "solid core" cable undergo before it actually breaks? lol, I have never heard of cat5 cable breaking but I'm by no means an expert LAN person. Are these thinks really coarse??

Any information anyone could give I would greatly appreciate. Also, if anyone bought this kit, give feed back please.
 

tedinde1

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The brand is Geneca, got it last night. I've gotten cases from them that say Genica brand Ie GENERIC.

Cables ok, tester works, Crimps are cheap, but work no problem.
 

dealseaker

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ok this is my first attempt to make a cable, i got the cable cut and ends on and it even checks good in the tester but when i plug it in the lan cards i cant get a connection to internet, i unplug and plug in my old cords and they work just fine, any help would be appriciated, thanks---- chris
 

Lark888

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Not sure why tester says ok & not. Believe you are only checking continuity versus quality and that may be the reason. However, if first attempt - just do it again.

It is important that you maintain the twisted pairs right up to entering connector and that the ends are evenly spaced when spread out. I put a little extra twist into pairs and "shape" the 8 wires before inserting into connector. By "shaping", I mean that I flatten them out and bend the ones on the outer edges so that they just slide into the connector all at one time. I also cut them after "shaped" to ensure the ends will all be fully inserted prior to crimp.

You should be able to look through the plastic connector after assembly and see that each end it firmly against the connector. Then crimp and inspect again. Should still be firmly against connector and the metal prongs evenly pressed into the 8 wires. As a final check make sure that you have same color wires in same connector location - easy to let a pair change places. :)

Oh, and one other fact I forgot - You should be using a stripper that doesn't nick the wires. My first one was a simple plastic stripper with a Cat5 groove with a razor-like blade that extended the thickness of the insulation. I think it came with some round telephone wiring kit. I've puchased an upgraded (if Radio Shack can be called an upgrade) stripper for ~$10 that also works great. I don't believe that I would be successful using standard stripping tools (knives, teeth, or those ubiquious wire strippers made for single conductor wires).
 

FiDo14DiDo

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Looks like they dropped the price on this deal. Not bad when you use the coupon (if its still working)