Baby boy survives for nearly two days after abortion

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Atreus21

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Judicial activism is never a good thing.

Judicial activism is a supreme court decision that doesn't agree with your worldview. It's a completely relative term now. You probably don't think Roe v. Wade was judicial activism, but I do.

I don't seek a supreme court decision making abortion illegal across the country. I seek the overturn of Roe v. Wade, which I believe to be gross judicial activism, so that the issue returns to the states. That doesn't strike me as a horrible imposition.

Sure it does.. because, with data, mine would be applicable to a majority of the unborn. Yours wouldn't.

Would you clarify that statement? I don't understand.
 

zsdersw

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Judicial activism is a supreme court decision that doesn't agree with your worldview. It's a completely relative term now. You probably don't think Roe v. Wade was judicial activism, but I do.

As a matter of fact I do think Roe v. Wade was judicial activism.

I don't seek a supreme court decision making abortion illegal across the country. I seek the overturn of Roe v. Wade, which I believe to be gross judicial activism, so that the issue returns to the states. That doesn't strike me as a horrible imposition.

That would be fine, but what do you think would happen once it does return to the states? Do you think the number of abortions will magically decrease significantly simply because states are now free to ban it if they so elect?

Would you clarify that statement? I don't understand.

Ok.. I've explained this many times in this thread, but I'll explain it again:

If data on the survival rate of premature births is collected there will be a pretty clear point before which the survival rate drops significantly. That point could be used to determine viability and, thus, where the right to have an abortion is determined. This statistically relevant data would be applicable to the majority of the premature unborn.
 
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If you are against safe legal abortions, it stands that you are for dangerous illegal ones, because women are going to continue to have abortions, no matter what you want.

But hey, late term abortions are going to be pretty much impossible soon, as thanks to the fucking retarded pro-life movement, there aren't going to be any doctors left who can do it. Now some women will have to carry a baby to term that might kill them, which only a few years ago could have been safely dealt with.
You never answered my questions. I asked these questions in order to get you to actually think for a second...but I see that my effort failed.

Here we go again...looks like I need to be a little more direct so that you can understand.

First of all, I never said I was against safe legal abortions...you seem to have a real problem with jumping to conclusions....don't you? You think you understand...but you understand nothing. I guess this is what happens when one doesn't have the intellectual capacity to grasp anything beyond a pea-brained stereotype of "fucking retarded" pro-lifers.

Secondly, my actual point revolves around when it becomes too late to abort...as a baby is capable of feeling pain and is apparently self-aware enough to recognize another human being at 20 months. You apparently don't have issues with this...but here's something to think about...believe it or not, there's a lot of "fucking retarded" people that do.

Many, many "fucking retarded" countries throughout the world recognized what happens around 20 weeks gestation and their laws reflect this distinction. Late term abortions are considered barbaric by most people. But I'm sure that you consider your self a compassionate caring person...only a "fucking retard" wouldn't...right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_law
"As of 1998, among the 152 most populous countries, 54 either banned abortion entirely or permitted it only to save the life of the pregnant woman.[8] In contrast, another 44 of the 152 most populous countries generally banned late-term abortions after a particular gestational age: 12 weeks (Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cuba, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Georgia, Greece, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Norway, Russia, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Ukraine, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and the former Yugoslavia), 13 weeks (Italy), 14 weeks (Austria, Belgium, Cambodia, Germany, Hungary, and Romania), 18 weeks (Sweden), viability (Netherlands and to some extent the United States), and 24 weeks (Singapore and the United Kingdom [Northern Ireland excluded]).["
 

Corn

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The loony lefts lack of compassion, and desire to kill babies is a sickening thing. Comparing a human baby that survived an abortion to a cow in the slaughterhouse tells everyone you are a disgusting human.

Almost as disgusting as someone who has had and/or performs an abortion.
 

OutHouse

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You repuglicans are such dumb asses.

Keep your hand off a persons body, you pervert.

if labeling me a repuglican makes you feel better then fine. however the fact still remains that the woman and doctor killed a human being. if you cant see that then you are a sad person.
 

OutHouse

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TruePaige View Post
You repuglicans are such dumb asses.

Keep your hand off a persons body, you pervert.
Unless I want salt in the foods I buy, or trans fats in the food I order from a restaurant.. then you are all for regulating what happens to my body.

pure ownange.
 

CitizenKain

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Safely dealt with = killing a child. I suppose that's safe. Horrible? Also yes. Civilized? Hardly.

So, lets say you have a baby that will be born without a brain. The child will die within weeks of being born. Now, due to complications, the chance of the mother dying during birth is extremely high. So you are telling her that she has to potentially kill herself to make you feel better? Not horrible, and extremely civilized. Unless its in crazy religious backwards land where the wife is property.

Something you guys seem to be missing is that no one is getting late term abortions (22 weeks+) because they suddenly felt like it. Tiller only did ones that were medically necessary, or in cases of rape or incest. Same with the other remaining doctor the pro-life movement hasn't gotten around to killing yet.
 

TruePaige

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pure ownange.

Actually no, I am against regulating what people do with their bodies, as said above. I'm not a dumb partisan hack like you.

Now go flip some burgers and talk about issues that don't affect you but that you want to stop people from doing like a whiny little bitch.
 

TruePaige

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if labeling me a repuglican makes you feel better then fine. however the fact still remains that the woman and doctor killed a human being. if you cant see that then you are a sad person.

Fool.

Doesn't affect you, mind your own business.

Maybe we should stop you from taking tapeworms out of your body and just let you die

Or maybe you can care for all the unwanted pregnancies on your own, since you can't mind your own damn business.

It's funny to see people say they are for freedom and then act like such Orwellian assholes.
 

WHAMPOM

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Rise above the animal instinct to reproduce and control your reproduction. Intellect over instinct.
 

spittledip

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Fool.

Doesn't affect you, mind your own business.

Maybe we should stop you from taking tapeworms out of your body and just let you die

Or maybe you can care for all the unwanted pregnancies on your own, since you can't mind your own damn business.

It's funny to see people say they are for freedom and then act like such Orwellian assholes.

Who is going to mind the business of the baby that is killed?
 

Kappo

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Fool.

Doesn't affect you, mind your own business.

Maybe we should stop you from taking tapeworms out of your body and just let you die

Or maybe you can care for all the unwanted pregnancies on your own, since you can't mind your own damn business.

It's funny to see people say they are for freedom and then act like such Orwellian assholes.

Minding my own business would also include not paying for a bunch of kids squirt out by a ghetto rat. Or paying for some crapbag to live off welfare. Or feeding children because their parents fail. You are basically saying "the government needs to stay out of my life".

That sure doesn't coincide with your love for Liberalism.