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Geekbabe

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www.theshoppinqueen.com
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: waggy
Also i asked my wife ...

So does she think the plane will take off or not? :D

she looked at me like i was a retard. she said "only a idiot thinks it won't take off" than asked if i really thought we would ever face the situation. lol

Hmmm your wife might have something here.. a new name for the place "Only idiots"
catchy sounding title for the place :D
 

iamwiz82

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Wait a second, what is the argument? They aren't saying no pictures are to be posted, just that they are to be posted in a specific thread. Why is this a travesty?

:confused:
 

olds

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Wait a second, what is the argument? They aren't saying no pictures are to be posted, just that they are to be posted in a specific thread. Why is this a travesty?

:confused:

Because the nerds only know how to click on the link for OT. they don't know how to click other links.
 

Nik

Lifer
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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Nik
... Offtopic.com has an awesome way to go about it. Simply mark the thread NSFW in the thread list. Boom, problem solved.
This is how I would do it. Only problem here is some people are too stupid (or contrary) to follow the rules and it ruins it for everyone else.
Of course I'd just nuke those people but that's not touchie/feely enough for these forums.

No it's not. You break the rules, you get banned. As it stands, mods have no problem banning people who post porn. Why can't they just ban people who post NSFW threads without marking them NSFW? There's no difference in handling the two situations.

It seems like a perfectly reasonable solution :confused:

Break the rules? Get banned. That's how it is now, anyway. Hell, you can get banned for not breaking the rules at all, and for a month at that. :roll:

I just don't understand why this tiny bump in the road is causing so much of a commotion without being addressed faster.

If anybody's got a more reasonable compromise, lets hear it :)
 

olds

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Nik
... Offtopic.com has an awesome way to go about it. Simply mark the thread NSFW in the thread list. Boom, problem solved.
This is how I would do it. Only problem here is some people are too stupid (or contrary) to follow the rules and it ruins it for everyone else.
Of course I'd just nuke those people but that's not touchie/feely enough for these forums.

No it's not. You break the rules, you get banned. As it stands, mods have no problem banning people who post porn. Why can't they just ban people who post NSFW threads without marking them NSFW? There's no difference in handling the two situations.

It seems like a perfectly reasonable solution :confused:

Break the rules? Get banned. That's how it is now, anyway. Hell, you can get banned for not breaking the rules at all, and for a month at that. :roll:

I just don't understand why this tiny bump in the road is causing so much of a commotion without being addressed faster.

If anybody's got a more reasonable compromise, lets hear it :)

They need to pass a bill in congress to ban anyone any more.
 

Nik

Lifer
Jun 5, 2006
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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Wait a second, what is the argument? They aren't saying no pictures are to be posted, just that they are to be posted in a specific thread. Why is this a travesty?

:confused:

Can we post full frontal spread eagle?
 

Joemonkey

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i hate to say this, but why can't we follow the model of the somethingawful forums? instead of the $10 price tag hell make it a $1 price tag, that'll keep the fuckhole anons out at the very least. It will also allow us to ban those that post NSFW content w/o a NSFW tag and still generate $ when those idiots rejoin
 
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Originally posted by: Joemonkey
i hate to say this, but why can't we follow the model of the somethingawful forums? instead of the $10 price tag hell make it a $1 price tag, that'll keep the fuckhole anons out at the very least. It will also allow us to ban those that post NSFW content w/o a NSFW tag and still generate $ when those idiots rejoin

This forum is hemorrhaging members. It wouldn't survive a fee.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
i hate to say this, but why can't we follow the model of the somethingawful forums? instead of the $10 price tag hell make it a $1 price tag, that'll keep the fuckhole anons out at the very least. It will also allow us to ban those that post NSFW content w/o a NSFW tag and still generate $ when those idiots rejoin

This forum is hemorrhaging members. It wouldn't survive a fee.
It has in the past.

 

Nik

Lifer
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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
i hate to say this, but why can't we follow the model of the somethingawful forums? instead of the $10 price tag hell make it a $1 price tag, that'll keep the fuckhole anons out at the very least. It will also allow us to ban those that post NSFW content w/o a NSFW tag and still generate $ when those idiots rejoin

This forum is hemorrhaging members. It wouldn't survive a fee.
It has in the past.

That was for faster servers, not for plain ol' access. I'd gladly pay for faster server access (again). However, I won't pay just to have access here.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
i hate to say this, but why can't we follow the model of the somethingawful forums? instead of the $10 price tag hell make it a $1 price tag, that'll keep the fuckhole anons out at the very least. It will also allow us to ban those that post NSFW content w/o a NSFW tag and still generate $ when those idiots rejoin

This forum is hemorrhaging members. It wouldn't survive a fee.
It has in the past.

That was for faster servers, not for plain ol' access. I'd gladly pay for faster server access (again). However, I won't pay just to have access here.

You will, and you will like it.

I'd pay double the old fee if it got me a vote on who gets banned.
 

PlasmaBomb

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: cliftonite


What do you base this on? New rules are much better and the place is much more civil.

You must not have participated much just a few years ago. At one time OT was hard to keep up with it was so fast. There was as much activity in the middle of the night back then as there is during prime time today. The number of posts per day in OT is mere fraction of what it was 5 years ago.

At what cost is it more civil? How long would an adult want to hang out in a day care and be forced to abide by absurdly childish rules?

Sorry, but I remember the ATOT of five years ago, and like I said, it was bit more wild BUT it was a HELL of a lot more intelligent, engaging, exciting and FAR more active.

The new rules are insanely childish and the forum splits make posting an OT topic so it gets the most number of views and thus responses a pain in the ass and not worth it.

YOU may like the new rules, but obviously the silent majority do not, and have voted with their feet.

The squeeky wheels like you may be the loudest, but they are most often the minority. The greatly diminished activity level of OT proves this.

What is this based on? Please find me atleast one instance where I have complained to the mods about a rule?(I dont ever remember even PMing a mod/derek) You seem to be the wheel that is squeeking the loudest and perhaps should join the silent majority in leaving?

AT used to have one of the Top 10 forums according to the Big-Boards.com rankings. Now we don't even crack the Top 50.

http://www.big-boards.com/highlight/245/

I'm not from USA or HK...

http://www.big-boards.com/img/graphs/nc245.png
 

0roo0roo

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yup activity and popularity have taken a nose dive since the mods instituted "culture change".
 

Newbian

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Wait a second, what is the argument? They aren't saying no pictures are to be posted, just that they are to be posted in a specific thread. Why is this a travesty?

:confused:

Can we post full frontal spread eagle?

Lets check.


---------------------------
Cute

Senior Anandtech Moderator
Common Courtesy
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
yup activity and popularity have taken a nose dive since the mods instituted "culture change".
Quality before quantity.

Now with Derek in charge, it is the least common denominator.

 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
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Shimpi never intended to start a business. He had been custom-building computers as a hobby for two years and saw the site as a way to share what he learned with other hardware enthusiasts. But a few months after it went online, a manufacturer of the products he covered discovered it and wanted to advertise there. At that point, Shimpi wasn't interested in advertisers, so he asked the manufacturer to send a piece of hardware for him to review for the site.

When other manufacturers began sending their products for review, he took them on and expanded the site from covering mostly motherboards to include CPUs, sound and video cards, and processors. Interest - and the number of reviews - continued to grow, and he incorporated in 1999.

Drew Prairie, in the public relations department of AMD, a manufacturer of computer processors, has worked closely with Shimpi for more than a year. He says Shimpi "has become one of the major Internet sources for information on the latest computer hardware, and he has a loyal following of readers. Combine that with the fact that he has only just graduated from high school, and I think Anand is probably far from done in terms of making his mark when it comes to the computer industry."

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"We can't compromise the investment that
readers make in the products we review."
Anand Lal Shimpi, AnandTech.com

Because readers trust what they read there, Shimpi, who is editor-in-chief and CEO, is very careful to ensure there is no overlap between the editorial side of the house and advertising. In a time when even some newspapers have some trouble with this distinction, Shimpi says, "We have a strong focus on integrity. We can't compromise the investment that readers make in the products we review."

To ensure the proper separation of editorial and advertising, "no member of the editorial team knows what the banner ads will be before they go up," he explains.

AnandTech.com currently works with a dozen independent contract writers who test products and write the reviews. Another dozen, all based across the country in California, make up the ad sales force. One person handles the Web site development.

The company recently purchased two acres in Morrisville, N.C. and will construct a new building there. Plans are not finalized yet, but it will be bigger than the current facility, which will provide room for additional testing labs and a larger staff.

AnandTech.com was recently named the Number One Business in this year's Young Biz 100 survey from KidsWay and YoungBiz magazines. At this rate, this is only the first of many awards to come for Shimpi.
http://www.bizstarz.com/search/anandtech.html
 

Freshgeardude

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
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Site Stats for anandtech.com:

* Anandtech.com has a traffic rank of: 94929,107 (down2,752)
older stats
Young Hobbyist Turns Passion
Into Highly-Regarded Web Site

ANANDTECH.COM
Eighteen year old Anand Lal Shimpi's heavily trafficked and widely respected Web site for computer hardware reviews has a staff of 25 and annual advertising revenues of $1 million.

RALEIGH, N.C. - Like many companies, AnandTech.com began as a result of its owner's passion. Anand Shimpi had an interest in computer hardware, and in the spring of 1997, he created a small Web site on a free hosting service to publish his product reviews. Today, the site is generating $1 million in annual advertising revenue, and Shimpi, 18, is waiting to start college in the fall.

Shimpi never intended to start a business. He had been custom-building computers as a hobby for two years and saw the site as a way to share what he learned with other hardware enthusiasts. But a few months after it went online, a manufacturer of the products he covered discovered it and wanted to advertise there. At that point, Shimpi wasn't interested in advertisers, so he asked the manufacturer to send a piece of hardware for him to review for the site.

When other manufacturers began sending their products for review, he took them on and expanded the site from covering mostly motherboards to include CPUs, sound and video cards, and processors. Interest - and the number of reviews - continued to grow, and he incorporated in 1999.

Drew Prairie, in the public relations department of AMD, a manufacturer of computer processors, has worked closely with Shimpi for more than a year. He says Shimpi "has become one of the major Internet sources for information on the latest computer hardware, and he has a loyal following of readers. Combine that with the fact that he has only just graduated from high school, and I think Anand is probably far from done in terms of making his mark when it comes to the computer industry."

AnandTech.com has become one of the most heavily trafficked sites for computer hardware reviews, jumping from 8 million page views a month at the end of 1999 to 20 million or more a month by June 2000. Ad rates range from $15 CPM (cost per thousand) to $35 CPM, with discounts for multiple-month contracts.

"We can't compromise the investment that
readers make in the products we review."
Anand Lal Shimpi, AnandTech.com

Because readers trust what they read there, Shimpi, who is editor-in-chief and CEO, is very careful to ensure there is no overlap between the editorial side of the house and advertising. In a time when even some newspapers have some trouble with this distinction, Shimpi says, "We have a strong focus on integrity. We can't compromise the investment that readers make in the products we review."

To ensure the proper separation of editorial and advertising, "no member of the editorial team knows what the banner ads will be before they go up," he explains.

AnandTech.com currently works with a dozen independent contract writers who test products and write the reviews. Another dozen, all based across the country in California, make up the ad sales force. One person handles the Web site development.

The company recently purchased two acres in Morrisville, N.C. and will construct a new building there. Plans are not finalized yet, but it will be bigger than the current facility, which will provide room for additional testing labs and a larger staff.

AnandTech.com was recently named the Number One Business in this year's Young Biz 100 survey from KidsWay and YoungBiz magazines. At this rate, this is only the first of many awards to come for Shimpi.
http://www.bizstarz.com/search/anandtech.html



damn man anand was smart!
 

JJChicken

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Originally posted by: freshgeardude
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Text

Employees: 100 - 250
Ownership: Privately Held
Revenue: $10 - 50M

Site Stats for anandtech.com:

* Anandtech.com has a traffic rank of: 94929,107 (down2,752)
older stats
Young Hobbyist Turns Passion
Into Highly-Regarded Web Site

ANANDTECH.COM
Eighteen year old Anand Lal Shimpi's heavily trafficked and widely respected Web site for computer hardware reviews has a staff of 25 and annual advertising revenues of $1 million.

RALEIGH, N.C. - Like many companies, AnandTech.com began as a result of its owner's passion. Anand Shimpi had an interest in computer hardware, and in the spring of 1997, he created a small Web site on a free hosting service to publish his product reviews. Today, the site is generating $1 million in annual advertising revenue, and Shimpi, 18, is waiting to start college in the fall.

Shimpi never intended to start a business. He had been custom-building computers as a hobby for two years and saw the site as a way to share what he learned with other hardware enthusiasts. But a few months after it went online, a manufacturer of the products he covered discovered it and wanted to advertise there. At that point, Shimpi wasn't interested in advertisers, so he asked the manufacturer to send a piece of hardware for him to review for the site.

When other manufacturers began sending their products for review, he took them on and expanded the site from covering mostly motherboards to include CPUs, sound and video cards, and processors. Interest - and the number of reviews - continued to grow, and he incorporated in 1999.

Drew Prairie, in the public relations department of AMD, a manufacturer of computer processors, has worked closely with Shimpi for more than a year. He says Shimpi "has become one of the major Internet sources for information on the latest computer hardware, and he has a loyal following of readers. Combine that with the fact that he has only just graduated from high school, and I think Anand is probably far from done in terms of making his mark when it comes to the computer industry."

AnandTech.com has become one of the most heavily trafficked sites for computer hardware reviews, jumping from 8 million page views a month at the end of 1999 to 20 million or more a month by June 2000. Ad rates range from $15 CPM (cost per thousand) to $35 CPM, with discounts for multiple-month contracts.

"We can't compromise the investment that
readers make in the products we review."
Anand Lal Shimpi, AnandTech.com

Because readers trust what they read there, Shimpi, who is editor-in-chief and CEO, is very careful to ensure there is no overlap between the editorial side of the house and advertising. In a time when even some newspapers have some trouble with this distinction, Shimpi says, "We have a strong focus on integrity. We can't compromise the investment that readers make in the products we review."

To ensure the proper separation of editorial and advertising, "no member of the editorial team knows what the banner ads will be before they go up," he explains.

AnandTech.com currently works with a dozen independent contract writers who test products and write the reviews. Another dozen, all based across the country in California, make up the ad sales force. One person handles the Web site development.

The company recently purchased two acres in Morrisville, N.C. and will construct a new building there. Plans are not finalized yet, but it will be bigger than the current facility, which will provide room for additional testing labs and a larger staff.

AnandTech.com was recently named the Number One Business in this year's Young Biz 100 survey from KidsWay and YoungBiz magazines. At this rate, this is only the first of many awards to come for Shimpi.
http://www.bizstarz.com/search/anandtech.html




damn man anand was smart!

It seems he lacks the passion for this site that he once had :(
 

olds

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Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Originally posted by: freshgeardude
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Text

Employees: 100 - 250
Ownership: Privately Held
Revenue: $10 - 50M

Site Stats for anandtech.com:

* Anandtech.com has a traffic rank of: 94929,107 (down2,752)
older stats
Young Hobbyist Turns Passion
Into Highly-Regarded Web Site

ANANDTECH.COM
Eighteen year old Anand Lal Shimpi's heavily trafficked and widely respected Web site for computer hardware reviews has a staff of 25 and annual advertising revenues of $1 million.

RALEIGH, N.C. - Like many companies, AnandTech.com began as a result of its owner's passion. Anand Shimpi had an interest in computer hardware, and in the spring of 1997, he created a small Web site on a free hosting service to publish his product reviews. Today, the site is generating $1 million in annual advertising revenue, and Shimpi, 18, is waiting to start college in the fall.

Shimpi never intended to start a business. He had been custom-building computers as a hobby for two years and saw the site as a way to share what he learned with other hardware enthusiasts. But a few months after it went online, a manufacturer of the products he covered discovered it and wanted to advertise there. At that point, Shimpi wasn't interested in advertisers, so he asked the manufacturer to send a piece of hardware for him to review for the site.

When other manufacturers began sending their products for review, he took them on and expanded the site from covering mostly motherboards to include CPUs, sound and video cards, and processors. Interest - and the number of reviews - continued to grow, and he incorporated in 1999.

Drew Prairie, in the public relations department of AMD, a manufacturer of computer processors, has worked closely with Shimpi for more than a year. He says Shimpi "has become one of the major Internet sources for information on the latest computer hardware, and he has a loyal following of readers. Combine that with the fact that he has only just graduated from high school, and I think Anand is probably far from done in terms of making his mark when it comes to the computer industry."

AnandTech.com has become one of the most heavily trafficked sites for computer hardware reviews, jumping from 8 million page views a month at the end of 1999 to 20 million or more a month by June 2000. Ad rates range from $15 CPM (cost per thousand) to $35 CPM, with discounts for multiple-month contracts.

"We can't compromise the investment that
readers make in the products we review."
Anand Lal Shimpi, AnandTech.com

Because readers trust what they read there, Shimpi, who is editor-in-chief and CEO, is very careful to ensure there is no overlap between the editorial side of the house and advertising. In a time when even some newspapers have some trouble with this distinction, Shimpi says, "We have a strong focus on integrity. We can't compromise the investment that readers make in the products we review."

To ensure the proper separation of editorial and advertising, "no member of the editorial team knows what the banner ads will be before they go up," he explains.

AnandTech.com currently works with a dozen independent contract writers who test products and write the reviews. Another dozen, all based across the country in California, make up the ad sales force. One person handles the Web site development.

The company recently purchased two acres in Morrisville, N.C. and will construct a new building there. Plans are not finalized yet, but it will be bigger than the current facility, which will provide room for additional testing labs and a larger staff.

AnandTech.com was recently named the Number One Business in this year's Young Biz 100 survey from KidsWay and YoungBiz magazines. At this rate, this is only the first of many awards to come for Shimpi.
http://www.bizstarz.com/search/anandtech.html




damn man anand was smart!

It seems he lacks the passion for this site that he once had :(
That absolutely ridiculous. The forums maybe but not the site.

 

JJChicken

Diamond Member
Apr 9, 2007
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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Originally posted by: freshgeardude
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Text

Employees: 100 - 250
Ownership: Privately Held
Revenue: $10 - 50M

Site Stats for anandtech.com:

* Anandtech.com has a traffic rank of: 94929,107 (down2,752)
older stats
Young Hobbyist Turns Passion
Into Highly-Regarded Web Site

ANANDTECH.COM
Eighteen year old Anand Lal Shimpi's heavily trafficked and widely respected Web site for computer hardware reviews has a staff of 25 and annual advertising revenues of $1 million.

RALEIGH, N.C. - Like many companies, AnandTech.com began as a result of its owner's passion. Anand Shimpi had an interest in computer hardware, and in the spring of 1997, he created a small Web site on a free hosting service to publish his product reviews. Today, the site is generating $1 million in annual advertising revenue, and Shimpi, 18, is waiting to start college in the fall.

Shimpi never intended to start a business. He had been custom-building computers as a hobby for two years and saw the site as a way to share what he learned with other hardware enthusiasts. But a few months after it went online, a manufacturer of the products he covered discovered it and wanted to advertise there. At that point, Shimpi wasn't interested in advertisers, so he asked the manufacturer to send a piece of hardware for him to review for the site.

When other manufacturers began sending their products for review, he took them on and expanded the site from covering mostly motherboards to include CPUs, sound and video cards, and processors. Interest - and the number of reviews - continued to grow, and he incorporated in 1999.

Drew Prairie, in the public relations department of AMD, a manufacturer of computer processors, has worked closely with Shimpi for more than a year. He says Shimpi "has become one of the major Internet sources for information on the latest computer hardware, and he has a loyal following of readers. Combine that with the fact that he has only just graduated from high school, and I think Anand is probably far from done in terms of making his mark when it comes to the computer industry."

AnandTech.com has become one of the most heavily trafficked sites for computer hardware reviews, jumping from 8 million page views a month at the end of 1999 to 20 million or more a month by June 2000. Ad rates range from $15 CPM (cost per thousand) to $35 CPM, with discounts for multiple-month contracts.

"We can't compromise the investment that
readers make in the products we review."
Anand Lal Shimpi, AnandTech.com

Because readers trust what they read there, Shimpi, who is editor-in-chief and CEO, is very careful to ensure there is no overlap between the editorial side of the house and advertising. In a time when even some newspapers have some trouble with this distinction, Shimpi says, "We have a strong focus on integrity. We can't compromise the investment that readers make in the products we review."

To ensure the proper separation of editorial and advertising, "no member of the editorial team knows what the banner ads will be before they go up," he explains.

AnandTech.com currently works with a dozen independent contract writers who test products and write the reviews. Another dozen, all based across the country in California, make up the ad sales force. One person handles the Web site development.

The company recently purchased two acres in Morrisville, N.C. and will construct a new building there. Plans are not finalized yet, but it will be bigger than the current facility, which will provide room for additional testing labs and a larger staff.

AnandTech.com was recently named the Number One Business in this year's Young Biz 100 survey from KidsWay and YoungBiz magazines. At this rate, this is only the first of many awards to come for Shimpi.
http://www.bizstarz.com/search/anandtech.html




damn man anand was smart!

It seems he lacks the passion for this site that he once had :(
That absolutely ridiculous. The forums maybe but not the site.

I'm not too sure, RTPE has been down for months and it still has a link on the main page. There was a gem of an article on ATi's decision to target the value market and not the high-end market, and they've set up a "Bench (beta)" section, but the site seems to be lagging Tom's and other hardware sites for a while now. When I was building my comp, I didn't really use AT much this time around. This used to be the PREMIER hardware site on the net, its a shell of what it once was.