B&W everyday?

[roid450]

This just ran across my mind as I was showering. I got some garlic bread from Vons for 1.88, its about 18 inches long, probably 4 inches tall, like an oversized bagget. The spread in the middle is some butter/garlic/herbs mix. I was thinking, If I ate only that and water everyday would it be possible to maybe lose some weight? I wanna get down to 235lbs from 250 but most of the problem is we have home made mexican food everyday, and it's almost impossible to keep track of what's amounts of fat, calories, carbs, etc are in it. Hence it's a lil hard for me to lose weight. I do work out and do 30min-1hr of cardio a day but the weight come off slowly still.

SO what is your guys'/gals' take on this?

Oh and the bread is absolutely delicious, so I wouldn't mind eating it everyday. and cheap.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: roid450
This just ran across my mind as I was showering. I got some garlic bread from Vons for 1.88, its about 18 inches long, probably 4 inches tall, like an oversized bagget. The spread in the middle is some butter/garlic/herbs mix. I was thinking, If I ate only that and water everyday would it be possible to maybe lose some weight? I wanna get down to 235lbs from 250 but most of the problem is we have home made mexican food everyday, and it's almost impossible to keep track of what's amounts of fat, calories, carbs, etc are in it. Hence it's a lil hard for me to lose weight. I do work out and do 30min-1hr of cardio a day but the weight come off slowly still.

SO what is your guys'/gals' take on this?

What you're setting up is just another crash diet that involves eating one food group and that puts you at high risk for certain failure. You need to read the fat loss sticky and start making your own food if you can't track the calories in what you're eating. Also, read about the resistance program and such. The fat loss sticky has info that will help you lose weight, help you keep muscle mass, and help you get healthy. The diet you're suggesting is dangerous and harmful to your body. There is a list of foods in that thread as well so you know what you can dip into to make your own food. You need nutrition along with your calories and that bread, I can guarantee you, has little in terms of a broad range of amino acids, vitamins, minerals, etc. Read the sticky and then reply with any questions you have and I'd be happy to help you.

 

[KingGheedora]

You should read the sticky on weight loss (fat loss?). Basically we can't tell you yes or no because we don't know how many calories that baguette is. If you burn more calories than you consume you will lose weight. You have to burn about 3,500 calories to lose a pound. It is much easier to adjust your diet to set up the caloric deficit than it is to achieve it with exercise alone.

About 1-1.5lbs a week is realistic, so give yourself 10-15 weeks to achieve your goal. It will be pretty hard to count your caloric intake unless you prepare your own food so I'm not sure how to advise you on that.

 

[roid450]

Thanks I Figured, I have a health ED class currently in college and we talked about dieting last week, basically the professor said "diets" are BS and when you get back to normal eating you gain back.

Now I have a question about the 3500 cal, we talked about that last week but I forgot ask if that means "if you burn 3500 cal at the gym in one day, does that mean you lose 1 lb that day?"

Will read the sticky later today or tomorrow when I have time. But i'll come back.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: roid450
Thanks I Figured, I have a health ED class currently in college and we talked about dieting last week, basically the professor said "diets" are BS and when you get back to normal eating you gain back.

Now I have a question about the 3500 cal, we talked about that last week but I forgot ask if that means "if you burn 3500 cal at the gym in one day, does that mean you lose 1 lb that day?"

Will read the sticky later today or tomorrow when I have time. But i'll come back.

Changing your diet can definitely help you lose weight. I've mostly cut out the heavy carbs, so that means no more huge plates of delicious pasta, and I limit my bread and cereal intake. I eat a lot more fresh fruit and vegetables as well, and, combined with a marked increase in cardio, I have lost over 20 lbs this year.

If you burn 3500 cal in the gym in one day, you will expend the amount of energy contained in 1 lb of fat. That doesn't mean you'll lose 1 lb though as it depends on how much you ate that day, and how much it takes to keep you alive. Also, burning 3500 cal in the gym in one day is a lot.

 

[roid450]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: roid450
Thanks I Figured, I have a health ED class currently in college and we talked about dieting last week, basically the professor said "diets" are BS and when you get back to normal eating you gain back.

Now I have a question about the 3500 cal, we talked about that last week but I forgot ask if that means "if you burn 3500 cal at the gym in one day, does that mean you lose 1 lb that day?"

Will read the sticky later today or tomorrow when I have time. But i'll come back.

Changing your diet can definitely help you lose weight. I've mostly cut out the heavy carbs, so that means no more huge plates of delicious pasta, and I limit my bread and cereal intake. I eat a lot more fresh fruit and vegetables as well, and, combined with a marked increase in cardio, I have lost over 20 lbs this year.

If you burn 3500 cal in the gym in one day, you will expend the amount of energy contained in 1 lb of fat. That doesn't mean you'll lose 1 lb though as it depends on how much you ate that day, and how much it takes to keep you alive. Also, burning 3500 cal in the gym in one day is a lot.

Very nice, thanks you. I usually get hungry 4-5 times a day but dont have massive amounts of food. I try to only eat at home, when I don't like what is at home I make a ham sandwhich, IIRC there's around 400 cal roughly in the sandwhiches I eat, lean ham and Light cheese. What my mother uses a lot of is chicken and those thin steaks cut up like Carne Asada, small lil bits, she doesn't use much oil at all and she uses Vegetable oil.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: roid450
Thanks I Figured, I have a health ED class currently in college and we talked about dieting last week, basically the professor said "diets" are BS and when you get back to normal eating you gain back.

Now I have a question about the 3500 cal, we talked about that last week but I forgot ask if that means "if you burn 3500 cal at the gym in one day, does that mean you lose 1 lb that day?"

Will read the sticky later today or tomorrow when I have time. But i'll come back.

Well, there's a difference between fad "diets" and honing your diet in. Diets are stupid because they are illogical and don't work based on proven human physiological response. If you start eating a wholesome diet with a broad range of different food items and keep your calories slightly below caloric maintenance then you will lose weight and start to feel infinitely better.

First of all, you won't AND won't want to burn 3500 calories "at the gym in one day." It's pretty much impossible unless you're running close to a marathon or something. You want to be in a caloric deficit of about 500 calories a day. That will translate to a loss of 1 pound of fat per week. If you get any higher than 1.5 pounds/week, you will be losing a fair amount of muscle as well and then you'll just be the skinny fat guy. Read the fat loss sticky before you ask questions. Many can be answered in there preemptively.

 

[roid450]

Thanks Sociallychallenged, will do :thumbsup: Now that you mention the 500 cal deficit over the entire day intake, that reminds me the professor talked about that also, 500 cal deficit X 7 days = 3500 cal :thumbsup: it all comes together now.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: roid450
Thanks Sociallychallenged, will do :thumbsup: Now that you mention the 500 cal deficit over the entire day intake, that reminds me the professor talked about that also, 500 cal deficit X 7 days = 3500 cal :thumbsup: it all comes together now.

No worries, man. Glad to get some more info out into the world. If you have any questions that you would prefer not to ask here, feel free to PM me as well.

 

[KingGheedora]

Running 3 miles in 30 minutes burns about 350 calories. You'd have to run 35 miles to burn 3,500 in one day. If you are able to workout enough to burn 3,500 calories by exercise in one day, you'd have to adjust for how many cals you burn just by being alive (about 2,500 cal/day for me, a 160lb 5'10" male) as well as how much you consume by eating. If that total is still 3,500, then yes, I think you would lose 1lb of body weight.

My guess is the average person who knows or cares nothing about eating healthy easily eats more than my minimum required 2,500 cals/day.

 

[roid450]

Thanks for the reply King. I plan to up the cardio I do by about another half hr as I have a good amount of free time. I'm gonna do some research and see if maybe I can come up with a good estimate as to what im eating at home as far as home made goes. One thing for sure, I HAVE To give up the soda and juices, I drink a full glass or 2 of apple or orange juice per day and I see that has a lot of sugar in it.

 

[Redfraggle]

I'm glad I arrived after you realized that was a bad idea. Good. Add more fruits and vegetables to your diet. Fiber will help you feel full, and the fruits/veggies have nutrients you need. If you are working out, you'll still need carbs and protein, so don't eliminate them. Cut back on fats (it hides in places you might not realize) and sugars. Consciously make an effort to drink more water, but remember you can drink too much of it. Listen to your body's cravings and don't really go nuts denying yourself things. If you are strongly craving your favorite snack, have some before you pig out on it. Just have a little.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: Redfraggle
I'm glad I arrived after you realized that was a bad idea. Good. Add more fruits and vegetables to your diet. Fiber will help you feel full, and the fruits/veggies have nutrients you need. If you are working out, you'll still need carbs and protein, so don't eliminate them. Cut back on fats (it hides in places you might not realize) and sugars. Consciously make an effort to drink more water, but remember you can drink too much of it. Listen to your body's cravings and don't really go nuts denying yourself things. If you are strongly craving your favorite snack, have some before you pig out on it. Just have a little.

Usually I suggest lowering the carbs and upping both the protein and the fats. Fats have a large say in satiety due to slowing the emptying of the stomach into the small intestine. Good fats are easy to get into one's diet - olive oil, nuts, seeds, etc. They're also a godsend in reducing hunger pains. When I was cutting, I was not once actually hungry due to high fiber and increased fat intake. I use a 40/30/30 (carbs, fat, prot) split in general and that worked well even while cutting.

 

[Redfraggle]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: Redfraggle
I'm glad I arrived after you realized that was a bad idea. Good. Add more fruits and vegetables to your diet. Fiber will help you feel full, and the fruits/veggies have nutrients you need. If you are working out, you'll still need carbs and protein, so don't eliminate them. Cut back on fats (it hides in places you might not realize) and sugars. Consciously make an effort to drink more water, but remember you can drink too much of it. Listen to your body's cravings and don't really go nuts denying yourself things. If you are strongly craving your favorite snack, have some before you pig out on it. Just have a little.

Usually I suggest lowering the carbs and upping both the protein and the fats. Fats have a large say in satiety due to slowing the emptying of the stomach into the small intestine. Good fats are easy to get into one's diet - olive oil, nuts, seeds, etc. They're also a godsend in reducing hunger pains. When I was cutting, I was not once actually hungry due to high fiber and increased fat intake. I use a 40/30/30 (carbs, fat, prot) split in general and that worked well even while cutting.

Seems like a good method. I guess my thing about carbs was that they are still needed. Cutting them is fine, but cutting them out is not. For instance, I eat a mixture of oats, wheat bran, sesame seeds, flax seeds, and sometimes some cornmeal, sweetened with brown sugar each morning for breakfast. It's filling and gives me a good bit of fiber, but also some carbs. Aside from the sugar, they aren't refined, and are better for my body and needs.

 

[KingGheedora]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: Redfraggle
I'm glad I arrived after you realized that was a bad idea. Good. Add more fruits and vegetables to your diet. Fiber will help you feel full, and the fruits/veggies have nutrients you need. If you are working out, you'll still need carbs and protein, so don't eliminate them. Cut back on fats (it hides in places you might not realize) and sugars. Consciously make an effort to drink more water, but remember you can drink too much of it. Listen to your body's cravings and don't really go nuts denying yourself things. If you are strongly craving your favorite snack, have some before you pig out on it. Just have a little.

Usually I suggest lowering the carbs and upping both the protein and the fats. Fats have a large say in satiety due to slowing the emptying of the stomach into the small intestine. Good fats are easy to get into one's diet - olive oil, nuts, seeds, etc. They're also a godsend in reducing hunger pains. When I was cutting, I was not once actually hungry due to high fiber and increased fat intake. I use a 40/30/30 (carbs, fat, prot) split in general and that worked well even while cutting.

Another note, if you have trouble remembering what kind of fat you want to eat, just try to keep saturated fats to ~10% of your daily calories. For the average male this translates to about 20g of saturated fat per day. Without putting much effort into it I average 20g saturated and about 20g combined polyunsaturated and monounsaturated per day.

 

[spamsk8r]

Originally posted by: KingGheedora

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: Redfraggle
I'm glad I arrived after you realized that was a bad idea. Good. Add more fruits and vegetables to your diet. Fiber will help you feel full, and the fruits/veggies have nutrients you need. If you are working out, you'll still need carbs and protein, so don't eliminate them. Cut back on fats (it hides in places you might not realize) and sugars. Consciously make an effort to drink more water, but remember you can drink too much of it. Listen to your body's cravings and don't really go nuts denying yourself things. If you are strongly craving your favorite snack, have some before you pig out on it. Just have a little.

Usually I suggest lowering the carbs and upping both the protein and the fats. Fats have a large say in satiety due to slowing the emptying of the stomach into the small intestine. Good fats are easy to get into one's diet - olive oil, nuts, seeds, etc. They're also a godsend in reducing hunger pains. When I was cutting, I was not once actually hungry due to high fiber and increased fat intake. I use a 40/30/30 (carbs, fat, prot) split in general and that worked well even while cutting.

Another note, if you have trouble remembering what kind of fat you want to eat, just try to keep saturated fats to ~10% of your daily calories. For the average male this translates to about 20g of saturated fat per day. Without putting much effort into it I average 20g saturated and about 20g combined polyunsaturated and monounsaturated per day.

I'm going to have to take issue with this. Saturated fats from natural sources can be very good for you. Increasing intake of saturated fat increases testosterone production and HGH, which are essential if one wants to trim down. Coconut oil, chicken skin, egg yolks, lard and tallow from grass-fed animals, these are all good, natural foods that people have been eating for thousands of years, but heart disease has only become a problem within the last 100 years or so, and many of the studies which "prove" that saturated fat leads to heart disease were actually performed using trans fats (because they're technically saturated, it's only recently that they've been treated as a fundamentally different entity). It's really the polyunsaturated oils that one should avoid, as they are highly processed, bleached, scented, and rancid by the time they come to your table. They break down very quickly (because of their chemical bonds being fragile) and generate a lot of free radicals which cause oxidation, which leads to heart disease and other health problems. My take is that if it's been processed you should avoid it.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: roid450
This just ran across my mind as I was showering. I got some garlic bread from Vons for 1.88, its about 18 inches long, probably 4 inches tall, like an oversized bagget. The spread in the middle is some butter/garlic/herbs mix. I was thinking, If I ate only that and water everyday would it be possible to maybe lose some weight? I wanna get down to 235lbs from 250 but most of the problem is we have home made mexican food everyday, and it's almost impossible to keep track of what's amounts of fat, calories, carbs, etc are in it. Hence it's a lil hard for me to lose weight. I do work out and do 30min-1hr of cardio a day but the weight come off slowly still.

SO what is your guys'/gals' take on this?

Oh and the bread is absolutely delicious, so I wouldn't mind eating it everyday. and cheap.

You can still have Mexican, just tweak the ingredients a little: whole-wheat tortilla wraps, beans, shredded chicken, for example, instead of a fried corn tortilla and beef.